What's the difference?
Here’s a fun fact.
Audi has only ever offered two rear-wheel drive (RWD) production cars in its entire 116-year history… the spectacular R8 supercar and the electrifying e-tron GT.
Now there’s this, the Q4 e-tron – a small-ish medium-sized SUV electric vehicle (EV), and Audi’s overdue response to the BMW iX1 and iX2, Polestar 4, Volvo EX40, Mercedes EQA and, of course, the Tesla Model Y.
Overdue? It’s been in production since March, 2021, making it very, very late to Australia.
But, you know what? You might be very glad the local team waited, because this MY25 update might be the premium medium electric SUV to buy right now.
To find out, read on.
Chinese newcomer GAC couldn’t have timed the arrival of its Aion UT in Australia any better.
At the time of writing, we were in the midst of another Middle East-related fuel crisis, and more buyers than ever before were considering switching to their first electric car.
It’s a good thing there hasn’t ever been a better time to buy one, especially with price tags getting lower and lower thanks to keen new players like GAC.
The Aion UT, which is a vaguely Corolla-sized hatchback is now one of the most affordable new EVs on the market, and aims to outfox its primary rivals, like the BYD Dolphin and GWM Ora.
But, as you may have figured out by now, newcomer brands can come with their fair share of quirks. So, is the Aion UT the affordable hatchback it needs to be? We went to its Australian launch to find out.
Audi is famous for sticking doggedly to front-wheel drive and quattro AWD, but clearly, when it puts its mind to it, the few RWD machines it has produced over its 116 years have been exceptional.
While not as exciting as the R8 or as supersonic as the e-tron GT, the Q4 e-tron is an impressive machine. Thoroughly engineered and thoughtfully designed to be a friendly, refined, comfortable, safe and capable family SUV, it deserves to be on your shortlist.
With a couple of choice option packages, the base 45 seems remarkably complete, but there’s plenty to enjoy in the hot-shot 55 quattro as well. Either way, Audi seems to be on a winner.
Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with travel, accommodation and meals provided.
The Aion UT is a cleverly-specified little hatchback and a great entry-point into electric motoring. The software needs a bit of work from a usability perspective, plus the spongy ride and cutesy styling might not be for everyone.
However, with strong points including driving range, cabin space and value, there’s even a pitch for it in some cases to be an only car compared to most of its price rivals, which are more likely to be thought of as a second car runabout in a two-car garage.
The pick of the range is definitely the entry-level Premium. It comes in at a headline-grabbing price with specs to blow rivals out of the water, while only missing out on a few luxuries.
Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with accommodation and meals provided.
Whether talking about the SUV or Sportback, the Q4 e-tron is an excellent example of Audi’s recent design prowess.
Beautiful proportions, crisp surfaces, exquisite detailing and undeniable elegance are all present in spades. And the Sportback is a rare example of a graceful-looking coupe SUV, though it is not in the otherworldly Polestar 4’s league aesthetically.
However, where is the originality? You’d never know these are rear-motored and predominantly RWD vehicles. Yes, the Single Frame grille execution is amongst the best-yet from the brand, while the wheelarch ‘blisters’ are an (albeit questionable) homage to the seminal Ur-Quattro of the 1980s, but the Q4 e-tron could be any contemporary Audi SUV from the Q3 up. Its design is the opposite of daring.
Still, maybe the Q4 e-tron’s classy, relatable conservatism explains why the Brits made this car their second-best selling EV of 2024, representing everything that the number one Model Y is not.
Plus, with current global automotive interiors stalling behind over-illuminated and oversized screens full of greasy fingerprints, glitchy electronics and reflections of their frustrated operators, a bit of old-school Audi cabin presentation knowhow can only be a good thing, right?
GAC tells us the UT hatch was designed in Milan, Italy, but it also isn’t ashamed of the Chinese influence on its overall appearance, like the ultra-short bonnet and Chinese city-car style face.
Along the side it has a modern, aerodynamic profile, and the ultra-short overhangs and long wheelbase maximise the amount of room for batteries under the floor and interior space.
The rear feels a lot like a modern Mini, with its bulbous tailgate and protruding light clusters, spiced up with a sporty spoiler piece jutting out.
It’s not a bad looking thing and it’s available in an array of fun colours.
On the inside it seems to follow the established rule-book of Chinese automakers, with plush trims, big screens with minimal physical buttons as well as a contemporary two-spoke steering wheel.
There’s a trendy floating console which hosts the cupholders and wireless charger on the Luxury grade, and an array of interesting patterns and textures through the doors and dash which you wouldn’t have once seen on a car at this price-point.
However, it is worth noting that while the seats are quite nice, and the steering wheel is a stand-out touchpoint, the trims on the doors and across the dash-top are hard plastics, more so than some of this car’s rivals.
Unlike most of its German competitors (and the Volvo EX40), the Q4 e-tron is built on a dedicated EV platform known as MEB, and shared with other Volkswagen Group models, like the Skoda Enyaq and Volkswagen ID.4.
Consequently, the Audi feels a wee-bit narrow inside, as the MEB SUV family are on the smallish side for medium-sized SUVs. This is not a criticism, just an observation.
And there is no lack of interior space, either. Entry/egress is easy via large doors, there’s plenty of space for heads and shoulders and legroom is generous. All are an upshot of the EV-only platform.
Despite some obvious packaging links with the other VW MEB interiors, the dashboard is very Audi-esque in styling, layout, functionality and quality.
From the ‘Virtual Cockpit’ electronic instruments and crisp multimedia screen, to the feel of the buttons and logical, easy locations of the controls, the Q4 e-tron is completely and utterly on-brand. And that means high standards. Looks posh. Works well. Nice to touch. No bewildering endless screen-menu search and rescue frustration here.
Plus, the Audi is practical. We’ve already talked about ample room, but even the standard, non-sports seats cosseted and supported over a few hours of testing; different and unexpected levels of storage (including a nifty bottle holder ahead of the forward door jam – brilliant); superb ventilation and, especially in the Sportback 55 e-tron quattro sampled, a banging audio system, complete a suave and sophisticated interior experience.
Issues? No too many, really.
There is quite a lot of quality plastic material visible, which might offend some sensitive souls. There is some road-noise intrusion over coarse surfaces, perhaps reminding owners of the Q4 e-tron’s shared architecture; and rear vision in the Sportback is hampered by fat pillars and slim back glass.
However, no spare wheel exists. Nada. Just the occasionally ineffective and always-infernal tyre inflation kit, that renders the tyre and kit useless afterwards and so makes for expensive replacements. And just because almost everybody else does it, this is not good enough for Australia.
The corollary of that is quite generous luggage capacity, with the Sportback’s 535 litres somehow beating the more-upright SUV’s 520L VDA capacity, though with the rear seatbacks folded that switches to 1460L and 1490L respectively. Both are gorgeously lush and quite practically shaped.
And what about the storage compartment up front?
In terms of interior space, the Aion UT stands out with its spacious cabin. At 182cm tall, I am easily able to find a comfortable seating position, and visibility out the front sides and rear, while not as good as some small SUVs, isn’t bad.
There’s lots of headroom, and while I mentioned the hard plastic door cards before, there’s enough padding everywhere your elbows are going to touch to make it feel a bit nicer than perhaps it is.
The main drawback of this car for me is the lack of tactile buttons and the frustrating software.
The main screen isn’t particularly well utilised, being taken up by either a background or the navigation map, with an array of typically small shortcuts across the bottom for important features like the climate control or settings menus.
You can pre-set a few information panels which sit above the shortcut bar as in many rival cars and there’s also a shortcut tray which can be hosted on the driver’s side and configured with a variety of shortcuts and settings.
It’s just a bit clumsy to use, and the array of poorly-labelled settings menus for things like active safety equipment feel needlessly complicated.
I’d love to see this car with physical controls for climate and multimedia to make it easier to live with.
Up front the storage is decent. There are big pockets in the doors and a large storage tray between the driver and front passenger thanks to a flat floor. There’s also a slightly weird storage box under the touchscreen which has a net inside, good for more delicate objects you don’t want flying around the cabin.
On the floating console there are two cupholders which are a bit too shallow for my liking, and the wireless charger feels almost pointless because its made of a hard plastic, so your phone just slides right off in the corners. The cabled outlets are hidden beneath which allows for tidy cable management and the centre armrest console box is a healthy size.
The rear seat is comparatively basic, although touches on the key points. Its main advantage is how generous the space is. My frame was able to fit behind my own driving position with heaps of room for my knees, and just enough room for my head despite the dip in the roof for the sunroof shade in the Luxury-grade car we tested. There may be even more headroom in the base car.
The flat floor makes the space useful even for three across in a pinch and there’s a drop-down armrest with (again, shallow) cupholders. There are pockets on the back of both front seats and smallish pockets in each door. The array of soft trims continues, too, and the back of the centre console features a partially adjustable air vent. Luxury spec cars get a single USB rear power outlet.
As with many Chinese cars in this segment, the generous rear seat space comes at a cost to the boot. It measures just 321 litres, which is slightly smaller than its main opponents in this category, although larger than some hatchbacks like the Toyota Corolla, for example.
It has its advantages, though. The floor is two-tiered, and can offer a flat load area with the rear seats folded down, or a deeper boot in its lower position. Underneath there’s a cutaway good for charging equipment and the tyre repair kit (sorry, no spare wheel in here).
Unlike some EVs, the Aion UT doesn’t get a frunk (front boot) for additional storage.
The Q4 e-tron is available in two body shapes – a handsome if quite conservative wagon SUV style, as well as a sleeker coupe-SUV derivative that Audi calls Sportback.
The latter is expected to be the slightly more popular of the two designs, despite costing about $1600 more.
Obviously slotting in between the smaller Q3 and larger Q5, the Q4 e-tron almost shadows the latter size wise, and is available in either 45 RWD or 55 quattro all-wheel drive (AWD) guises.
Since both share the same, largish (82kWh) battery, Audi reckons most buyers will choose the 45, especially as its pricing in either body style slips under the Australian Federal Government’s Luxury Car Tax (LCT) threshold.
Kicking off from $84,900 before on-road costs, the base grade includes a full suite of safety tech such as full stop/go adaptive cruise control, an electronic instrument display, heated front seats, three-zone climate control, a gesture-controlled powered tailgate and 19-inch alloy wheels.
These come on top of the LED headlights, an 11.6-inch touchscreen, full wireless multimedia connectivity, a premium audio system, electric driver’s seat adjustment, navigation, folding/heated/kerb-side-view mirrors, roof rails and automatic parking.
From the Sportback 45 and up, the S-Line package is standard, bringing with it 20-inch alloys.
All the essentials then.
But, on the base 45s, be prepared to spend extra for luxuries like bolstered “sports” seats, a head-up display, a powered front passenger seat, driver’s side memory settings, a 360-degree camera instead of the regular rear-only view and privacy glass.
The 55 quattro grades from $105,900 include most of these, along with an extra electric motor for AWD and considerably more muscle, as well as variable-ratio steering, Matrix LED headlights, dynamic indicators, extra lane-assist intervention and the aforementioned S-Line trim shod with 20-inch alloys.
Now, against the remodelled Tesla Model Y Juniper, the Audi costs considerably more, but it is also a more upmarket (and less conspicuous) luxury brand that prioritises quality.
The iX1, iX2, EQA and EX40 cost around the same as the Q4 e-tron, but aren’t quite as large, offer smaller batteries (Volvo-aside), are based on other internal combustion engine (ICE) models compared to the Audi’s ground-up dedicated-EV architecture and, except for the BMWs, are getting somewhat long in the tooth.
Conversely, fresh designs, bespoke electric platforms and bigger batteries set the larger yet less-expensive Polestar 4 as well as the more-compact yet loaded Genesis GV60 apart against the Audi’s aforementioned competitors, but neither challenger brand is as established as all the others. Finally, Lexus’ UX300e is too compact while the larger RZ450e has priced itself out of contention here.
So, why the delay getting the Q4 e-tron to Australia? Especially when the brand has offered the bigger and much-more expensive Q8 e-tron SUV since the beginning of this decade?
Initially, demand in Europe was through the roof and supply could not keep up. Then Audi elected to wait for an update that debuted globally in September 2023, ushering in a raft of changes, to make its most important EV ever more competitive in a wildly shifting market.
These include efficiency gains leading to more range thanks to an upgraded motor and battery, stronger performance, faster charging, retuned steering, comfier suspension and improved safety spec.
Not that you’d be able to spot the differences comparing new Q4 e-tron with old. Nor even against sibling SUVs…
The GAC Aion UT starts from $31,990, before on-road costs, for the entry-level Premium grade, which makes it the third-most affordable EV you can buy in Australia after the city-sized BYD Atto 1 and the entry-level version of the BYD Dolphin.
It sits closer to price-parity with the GWM Ora, but is significantly more affordable than the rear-drive MG4 and more spec-competitive top-grade BYD Dolphin.
The bigger threat to the Aion UT is that a lot of buyers will be willing to spend slightly more to get into one of the most affordable electric small SUVs, like the BYD Atto 2 or Jaecoo J5.
Still, GAC makes a solid pitch for its hatch, which offers a higher spec level than its most direct price rivals.
For example, the Aion UT is more powerful than the entry-level Dolphin and Ora while offering a higher level of interior equipment.
Even the just-arrived front-drive MG4 Urban also starts at $31,990, but that’s for a version with significantly less driving range.
In fact, I’d go so far as to say the entry-level version of the Aion UT (the confusingly-named Premium) is probably the pick of the two variant range.
Standard equipment levels on this car include 17-inch alloy wheels, LED lighting all around, synthetic leather interior trim with heated and power adjust front seats, a 14.6-inch multimedia touchscreen with online connectivity and built-in nav as well as wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.
There’s also an 8.88-inch digital instrument cluster, heated steering wheel and the full array of safety kit.
With the same power and battery size, this leaves only arguably unnecessary luxuries for the Luxury grade, like a wireless phone charger, ventilated driver’s seat, auto dimming rear vision mirror with auto power folding wing mirrors, a powered tailgate and of course, a panoramic sunroof (with shade!).
Unlike the Model Y, there's no storage up front. That space is instead reserved for auxiliaries and, in the 55 quattro versions, the second electric motor that drives the front axle for AWD.
In all versions, a permanently excited synchronous motor sits on the rear axle driving the rear wheels via a single-speed transmission.
Tipping the scales at 2145kg, the 45s produce 210kW of power, to offer a power-to-weight ratio of 98kW per tonne, while the 2235kg 55s’ 250kW output ups that to 112kW/tonne. Both Q4 e-trons deliver a healthy 545Nm of torque.
No slouch, the 45s manage the 0-100km/h sprint in a rapid 6.7s, while the 55 quattro’s extra motor chimes in when extra traction is required, shaving another 1.3s off that, for a 5.4s time. Top speed in both is limited to 180km/h.
Adding a bit more driver involvement, the 55s have variable ratio steering, while MacPherson-style struts up front and a four-link independent rear suspension setup out back help keep everything under control.
The Aion UT has a front-mounted electric motor producing 150kW/210Nm. That’s plenty punchy for any hatchback at this price, and I like the way the brand hasn’t messed around with a sub-100kW motor in the base variant to push prospects towards the top-spec car.
It’s more powerful than all of its closest rivals and at the time of writing you’ll have to spend four to six thousand dollars more to get into something equivalent from BYD, Chery, Jaecoo, Leapmotor or MG.
It even has a claimed 0-100km/h sprint time as low as 7.3 seconds.
Built on a 400V architecture, the Q4 e-tron uses an 82kWh Lithium-ion battery pack, offering a useable capacity of 77kWh. It only charges to 80 per cent full to help preserve battery life.
Now, driving most of the available versions over a 200km launch route from Adelaide airport to wine country, we averaged between 17.5 and 19.5kWh/100km, with the lighter RWDs obviously being the more economical of the drivetrains.
In ascending order, the official combined average figures are 16.9kWh/100km (Sportback 45), 17.4kWh/100km (45 SUV), 17.5kWh/100km (Sportback 55 quattro) and 18.1kWh/100km (55 quattro SUV).
Despite weighing about the same, the Sportback uses around 0.5kWh/100km less electricity than the SUV version, due to better aerodynamics.
That translates to about 15km of extra distance, with the Sportback 45 going the furthest, delivering a WLTP range of 540km. That’s followed by the 45 SUV, Sportback 55 quattro and 55 quattro SUV with 524km, 503km and 488km respectively.
To aid with recharging, the driver has three modes of battery energy recuperation via steering-wheel paddle shifters.
Plugged in at home, the battery needs about 40 hours to completely recharge, or over 12 hours using an optional 7kWh Wallbox. Maximum AC charging capacity is 11kW.
With a maximum of between 135kW (RWD) and 175kW (AWD) of DC charging capacity, however, 10-80 per cent charge using a 50kW DC public charger needs fewer than 70 minutes, or just 40 minutes if you find a 100kW station.
The Aion UT has a 60kWh lithium-iron phosphate (LFP) battery pack, which grants it a WLTP-certified 430km of driving range.
That’s more than its closest rivals, like the entry-level Ora Standard Range (310km), BYD Dolphin Essential (410km) or BYD Atto 2 (345km).
Claimed efficiency is 16.4kWh/100km and the car I tested returned a consumption of 14.0kWh/100km over a 130km route of mixed conditions, which isn’t bad at all.
Charging speeds are less impressive, but realistically appropriate for the relatively small battery. The peak DC charging capacity of 87kW means a charge time which the brand quotes at 24 minutes, but this is from 30-80 per cent. Expect closer to 40 minutes for a 10-80 per cent charge.
AC charging is decent, at 11kW. This should have you charging from 10-80 per cent between four and five hours.
Audi might be late to the affordable electric SUV party, but it’s certainly been worth the wait from behind the wheel, because the Q4 e-tron drives exactly how you would expect an Audi to.
The 45 in either body shape has ample oomph, as its impressive 6.7s 0-100km/h times prove, providing a decent amount of instant speed the moment you put your foot down. This is a smooth, strong and muscular performer.
The steering is nicely modulated and precise, for easy, flowing handling, even when the speed is taken up a few notches. Note that while it may seem a little light, it can be configured for a more dynamic feel.
However, slightly stronger single pedal braking would be appreciated. The Audi EV’s brakes do a great job stopping the car, but they do feel a bit on/off at first. Maybe even a bit wooden.
All the Q4 e-trons we drove on the launch around the Adelaide hills rode on steel springs. That said, and to our surprise, the suspension is more than comfortable enough, soaking up many of the bumps we encountered without breaking a sweat.
Plus, except on coarse bitumen, there's not much of any type of noise coming through inside the cabin. These are agreeably comfortable and refined cruisers.
Meanwhile, the 55 quattro version is a slightly different proposition, with measurably stronger acceleration across the board and more eager throttle response. Actually, even on bone-dry roads at the height of summer, there’s almost too much torque coursing through the axles, so just be wary of this EV’s considerable power.
Still, the twin-motor Audi feels like a relaxed yet brawny grand touring SUV, with plenty in reserve for fast overtaking and quick getaways. Even the RWD model provides exceptional roadholding and control, but that extra AWD grip when things become a bit slippery would certainly be a bonus.
Plus, kudos to the Germans for delivering user-friendly driver assist safety systems. Nuanced and largely unobtrusive, they keep you safe without driving you to distraction. China and Polestar in particular, are you listening?
On the flip side, you do feel the extra weight of the second electric motor (about 100kg more), and so it doesn't quite have the agility and alacrity of the standard 45 RWD machine.
Indeed, there isn’t quite the athleticism or connection of driver-focused alternatives (like BMW), but the Q4 e-tron rarely puts a foot wrong, either.
Impressively capable and dynamic, Audi’s more-affordable electric SUV has been worth the wait.
The drive experience can be where a lot of Chinese cars fall down but I walked away less frustrated by the Aion UT.
That’s not to say it will behave as you might expect a low-slung hatchback to. The suspension, for example, is extremely soft as it maintains its original Chinese-market state-of-tune.
This makes the car waft over imperfections on city roads. And in that sense it offers supreme ride comfort in the scenarios it was designed for. However, at the extremes, like some speed bumps, or particularly deep pot holes there can be a surprisingly violent re-bound sending a thud through the cabin.
The other trade-off for soft suspension is less body control. I was surprised to find that the Aion UT holds it together mostly well on a flat country B-road, but when undulations and big dips introduce themselves, the soft suspension can be too slow to react, making the car lose confidence in higher-speed open road scenarios we’re more used to in Australia.
The steering, like many electric cars in this category, is relatively heavily electrically assisted. This makes it light and easy to adjust at low speeds for easy park and maneuverability in the confines of a city. It loses a little bit of road-feel at higher speeds but the Aion UT’s steering is far from the least connected I’ve experienced recently.
One thing it can’t be criticised for is a lack of power. With 150kW instantaneously available the Aion UT has some serious poke and while the ChaoYang tyre package is tuned more for efficiency than grip, it’s again not one of the worst I’ve driven with.
One thing which helps the whole experience along is this car’s hatchback layout. With the weight of the battery low and squat and the wheels all the way out to the edges of the frame, the Aion UT inherently handles decently compared to an electric crossover or small SUV.
Like all Chinese cars, the UT has a host of occasionally frustrating driver aids, which you can read about in the Safety section below. While I was inclined to turn some of the features off after testing them, the alerts are relatively quiet and non-invasive.
Is the UT any good to drive? It’s not bad for the segment, I was largely pleased with how it handled and the power on offer, and while it still has its annoyances, they’re not big deal-breakers.
The MG4 rear-drive is a better allrounder, while the GWM Ora isn’t as good. I’d say it’s on par with the BYD Dolphin, but they excel in different areas. The Dolphin's a bit sharper in terms of handling but the Aion UT is more comfortable.
Tested back in 2021, the Q4 e-tron managed a five-star ANCAP crash-test rating, and possesses most of the driver-assist safety systems expected nowadays in this class of car.
This includes Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB, dubbed Audi Pre-Sense in corporate-speak), lane departure warning/assist, rear cross-traffic alert, blind-spot warning, on-coming traffic turn-and-swerve collision avoidance, exiting-vehicle alert tech, adaptive cruise control (with active lane assist in the 55s), driver attention monitor, tyre pressure indicators, 360-degree cameras, and light and rain sensors.
AEB operating parameters vary. Car to car, it’s between 5km/h and 250km/h. For pedestrian/cyclist/back-over, it’s from 5km/h to 85km/h. And the lane support systems work between 60km/h and 250km/h.
All outboard occupants also enjoy full airbag coverage – front, front side/centre, and full-length curtain airbags.
A trio of child-seat anchorage points are fitted across the back seat, along with ISOFIX child-seat anchorages in the front passenger seat and two in the rear outboard positions.
As with many Chinese cars the list of active safety equipment is long but that doesn’t mean it’s particularly well calibrated.
Standard gear includes the key stuff like auto emergency braking (AEB), lane keep assist, blind-spot monitoring, rear cross-traffic alert and adaptive cruise control. There are also rarer features for an affordable car like this including traffic sign recognition, door open warning, auto high beams and front cross-traffic alert.
On the parking front you get a 360-degree parking camera view as well as front and rear proximity sensors.
There's also an annoying driver monitoring system and one I haven’t seen much in the form of an occupant warning system, which seems to imagine you’re not wearing a seatbelt when you are.
It’s not the only safety system I found myself reaching to turn off. The lane keep assist could occasionally be a bit heavy-handed and the traffic sign alert was typically frustrating. This, sadly, is what we’ve come to expect from these types of systems from many Chinese automakers.
It’s not the most annoying system I’ve used, though, and the alerts are quiet enough and far enough apart that they aren't as intrusive as they can be in some rivals. You can also adjust the tolerance of some of the systems in the (needlessly complicated) menus to make them less annoying.
At the launch, the Aion UT was yet to be rated by ANCAP.
Audi’s warranty remains the same as before, at five years with unlimited kilometres, with the battery covered for eight years or 160,000km. Six years of roadside assistance is also included.
Service intervals are every two years or 30,000km. Nothing special here nowadays.
But the Q4 e-tron owner can buy a six-year service plan for a total of $2050, while gaining 12 months of free electricity at Chargefox stations. They can also purchase a JET Charge home installation charger from $800.
GAC covers this electric hatch with an eight-year and unlimited kilometre warranty, while the brand’s “magazine battery 2.0” is covered by a separate eight-year and 200,000km warranty. Five years of roadside assistance is included.
The Aion UT needs to be serviced once a year or 15,000km. The service price schedule extends all the way out to 240,000km with yearly visits costing between $199 and $640 but for the life of the warranty the average yearly cost comes in at $352.
There are currently 19 GAC dealers in Australia, confined mainly to Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane with a single store in Perth and an outlier in Cairns. No representation yet in Tassie, Canberra, the Northern Territory or SA.