Alfa Romeo Tonale vs Jaecoo J8

What's the difference?

Stuck between efficiency and performance, the Alfa Romeo Tonale Veloce Ibrida can’t really decide what kind of car it wants to be.

Fun, but not fun enough. Efficient, but not truly frugal. Pragmatically sized, but not super practical. Improved on inclusions, but not on price point.

The one area this car truly excels at is looking really good no matter what it’s doing. I’m not sure that’s enough to increase its appeal in what has become the most competitive new car market in the world.

It is hard to argue with the sheer amount of stuff you get in the J8 for the price. And that long warranty and capped price servicing program remove the stress of buying into a new brand.

The J8 might be more car than most people need due to its size and lack of third row seating.

It’s okay to drive but isn’t class leading and no hybrid option will count it out for the ever increasing number of Aussies looking to petrol-electric power.

The J8 is a solid machine and well worth a look if you are after glitz and glamour on a budget.

Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with meals provided.

As per the Alfa Romeo brand promise, the Tonale is, as far as small SUVs go, beautiful.

The update refines what was already a good looking car further, with a re-designed front grille and air intakes and a lower front area to make the car look wider, more muscular and sophisticated.

The design enhancements take inspiration from other famous Alfas of recent memory, from the Giulia sedan to the 33 Stradale sports machine, as well as other tweaks which make it more familiar to the more recently launched Junior small SUV.

The new Tonale’s footprint is actually physically wider, too, with a revised track width to go with the aesthetic.

The brand also offers an appealing array of colours, as usual, with a new red and green shade available for this update, as well as an Ocra shade for the Sport Speciale limited edition trim.

Inside, it’s typical Alfa, and in a great way, too. Unlike so many of its rivals which are chasing the new Chinese brands into cabin tech overload, the Tonale looks and feels understated and restrained, with more of a focus on physical controls than screen real estate.

It’s surprising how much this dates a cabin, with the Tonale in some ways feeling a generation old, but then the abundance of physical switchgear and a tight, refined and driver-centric cockpit are increasingly rare, even amongst traditional brands.

The three-spoke wheel is full of physical controls, every grade gets big metal gear shift paddles and the digital instrument cluster has nice-looking classic dial-style themes to go with the overall aesthetic of the car.

All of this is certainly a choice, but I think the niche customer willing to take a chance on an Alfa will like what’s on offer from its sculpted frame and restrained interior.

The J8 looks familiar but it's hard to remember where you’ve seen it before. There are shades of Mazda, Mercedes-Benz and Range Rover scattered throughout.

The J8 looks more native Jaecoo than the smaller J7, but either way it's a handsome machine in the metal.

Its large, prominent front grille with thick vertical slats gives it presence on the road. This is paired with a big JAECOO badge on the grille and dynamic LED headlights and DRLs.

It has a sleek side profile and does away with gaudy panel creases and sharp edges, which helps project its premium persona. This design is highlighted by its hidden door handles, well integrated roof rails and rear spoiler.

There is a rear light bar, which is the current must have styling item, and connects the tail-lights

Inside is where the action is.

It looks proper luxe, with soft touch and textured inserts all over. We spent the majority of our time in the Ridge AWD and on top of the dash is a type of soft synthetic suede and there are wood veneer-type inserts that give it a touch of class as well as some piano black highlights and plenty of premium feeling materials.

Even in the back seat, where some brands can cut costs, the J8 has a quality feel to it.

It is an impressive space for circa-$50,000.

Unfortunately, and also like a lot of Italian cars, this commitment to aesthetics makes the interior less than stellar on the practicality front.

Hopping into the driver’s seat, things feel small immediately, as you’re surrounded by dark trim and bolstered seats which hug you tightly, and I like to think I’m not even that wide.

Several adjustments later, and I find my left knee pushed up against the (mercifully, synthetic leather trimmed) centre console.

Not only does it feel physically tight, but there are also some practicality oversights. The revised gear shifter and array of buttons on the centre console takes up a lot of space, and isn’t even very nice to use, with the rotary dial simply turning on the spot rather than tilting on a spring, which makes it difficult to tell which gear you’ve selected.

On top of that, the wireless phone charger nestled beneath the climate controls is only good for one phone and takes up the entire area which could have been a more useful storage tray.

The bottle holders are located further back and deep-set, they have spring-loaded ridges to fit a few different bottle sizes, but you can lose a small coffee in them. The centre console box is also tiny, but it’s nice it has something for your elbow to rest on.

As with the restrained approach to screens, one of the biggest benefits of the Tonale’s interior is its commitment to physical buttons and toggles. There’s an entire set across the centre for your climate functions, a physical drive mode selector and a button for the suspension adjustment, a steering wheel adorned with buttons and dials, which have been re-thought to work a bit better, too.

This makes the Tonale easy to use, although while the digital dash is straightforward, the Stellantis multimedia suite is a little busy, with a few too many fiddly sub-menus.

The back seat offers just enough space for me behind my own driving position (at 182cm tall) with a little airspace for my knees. Soft trims largely continue, and the seats are nice. There’s a decent-sized bottle holder in each door, a drop-down armrest with two more, which even hides a ski port behind.

Boot space measures a decent but not stellar 385 litres. It was able to consume the whole CarsGuide three-piece luggage set, but only with the cover removed.

I can’t help but feel like this car has aesthetics and hopefully driving dynamics in mind above other considerations, as its German rivals have more to offer in terms of space and practicality.

Having only five seats in a car this big feels like a waste of space, and in reality it is. You’re now driving a very big and bulky car without the people carrying pros.

Very rarely will you need to use the giant 738-litre boot, but the ability to carry children’s friends or extended family is probably a more useful and regular scenario.

Up front there are plenty of storage options with lots of nooks and crannies in the centre console, including a sizeable and deep bin and good size pockets on the doors. Cupholders for both rows are a plus, too.

USB charging points for both rows are great. If you like to connect to Apple CarPlay via a cord and not wirelessly the port is down near the front seat passengers right foot, which is hard to access.

Additionally the wireless device charger is on the passenger side of the console. Both are hallmarks of a car originally designed to be driven on the other side of the road.

The back seat is huge, there is ample leg, shoulder and head room and it can easily accommodate adults or large teenagers.

The J8 comes in two grades: the two-wheel drive Track variant and the all-wheel drive Ridge. The variant names are tied into the brand’s adventurous image.

The Track is priced at a national $49,990 drive-away, which is about $5000 and $8000 cheaper respectively than the base Kia Sorento or Hyundai Santa Fe.

Jaecoo has thrown everything at the J8, except a third row of seats.

The Track grade has 20-inch alloy wheels, heated and ventilated front seats wrapped in real leather and topped off with a massage function.

There are dual 12.3-inch displays, one for the multimedia and the other for the driver. Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, sat nav and a 12-speaker Sony stereo are other highlights.

There are some clever functions too. When on a phone call it projects sound only through the two headrest speakers giving more privacy.

Three different scents can be diffused through the cabin, which might help override the drive-through food or old sports bag aroma in the boot.

It also has a panoramic sunroof, dual-zone climate control, power adjustable steering wheel, a head-up display (that projects vital information such as your travelling speed on to the windscreen in front of the driver) and a wireless device charger.

There isn’t much room left on the $54,990 drive-away Ridge AWD’s equipment sheet, but it manages to squeeze in a suede headliner, heated and ventilated rear window seats, privacy glass and electric door handles.

The Ridge also adds all-wheel drive grip with multiple drive modes such as 'Sport', 'Eco' and 'Normal' as well as 'Mud', 'Snow', 'Sand' and 'Off-Road' to best handle different conditions.

A more advanced active suspension system adjusts each wheel independently according to driving conditions to smooth out the ride.

In a win for buyers, both variants have a full size spare tyre hidden under the boot floor.

The Veloce Ibrida we tested is equipped with the lesser of two powertrain options in the Tonale range, although the hybrid set-up here is curious.

It pairs a 1.5-litre four-cylinder turbo-petrol engine with a small electric motor inside the seven-speed dual-clutch automatic to send a combined 128kW/240Nm to the front wheels.

While it only rates as a 48-volt mild-hybrid system, the motor is powerful enough to motivate the car without the assistance of the engine at low speeds, making it closer to a real plugless hybrid than the usual enhanced start/stop system the ‘MHEV’ moniker usually indicates. In this sense it is similar to Audi’s MHEV+ system.

While the previous Tonale was criticised for a clunky transition between motor and engine power, the brand promises it has refined the switch for this update (see Driving).

If you want all-wheel drive though, you’ll have to opt for the significantly pricier plug-in hybrid version.

On top of that, the Tonale is said to have some of the ‘most direct steering in its segment’ on top of the standard sporty suspension and brake package.

Power comes from a 2.0-litre, four-cylinder, turbo-petrol engine that makes 183kW and 385Nm, which is matched to an eight-speed automatic driving either the front or all four wheels.

That’s a decent amount of grunt and is on par with a Volkswagen Golf GTI, but the J8 weights about 1800kg in 2WD guise with AWD adding 100kg.

Those numbers are also short of the 206kW/422Nm delivered by the Santa Fe’s turbo-petrol motor but are better than the 200kW and 333Nm made by the Sorento’s non-turbo V6.

The lack of a hybrid option at launch, which is popular in rival machines, could prove to be a misstep.

Jaecoo said a plug-in hybrid version was under consideration, but is likely to come at a decent premium.

The fiddly hybrid dual-clutch and compact engine combine to give the Tonale Veloce Ibrida a combined cycle (urban/extra-urban) fuel consumption figure of 5.4L/100km. It requires mid-shelf 95RON unleaded, and has a decent fuel tank size of 55 litres suggesting a driving range of around 1000km on a full tank.

After some enthusiastic testing my car was producing a dash-indicated 6.8L/100km but I think you could get lower if you were asking less of it.

CO2 emissions are good for a combustion car in this segment, at 123g/km.

Jaecoo claims on the combined (urban/extra-urban) cycle the J8 Track 2WD will drink 8.3L/100km and the Ridge AWD will gulp 8.6L/100km, which is better than its similar sized rivals. But those rivals also have hybrid options that are more powerful and drink less fuel.

It also requires premium unleaded fuel, while the others drink the cheaper stuff.

A 65-litre fuel tank gives it a theoretical driving range of 755km in its thirstiest guise.

We didn’t get to spend enough time behind the wheel to do a thorough real-world test, and the majority of our drive was spent on high-speed arterial roads or motorways where petrol cars are at their most efficient. So we’ll reserve judgement until we undertake a more comprehensive test drive.

The Alfa Romeo Tonale should be about the driver, and it at least tries to make this smallish SUV segment a bit more exciting with its standard performance features.

Things feel good immediately, with the tight cockpit, sporty bolstered seats and big chunky metal paddle shifters.

The ergonomics are familiar to other sporty Alfas, although you are sitting noticeably high off the ground.

Pressing the start button on the steering wheel (satisfying) reveals a surprising bark from the exhaust, whetting the appetite for what should be a fun drive.

From there things devolve into a puzzlingly mixed experience, revealing a car which can’t really decide what it wants to be.

The steering is excellent, as the brand suggests, but the pedals have a strange wooden feel to them, I assume because the car is using software to determine how much power is deployed or regenerated electrically and how much requires the engine and brakes.

I only drove the plug-in version of the previous car, so it’s hard to tell how much the transmission has improved. It’s still not the most slick shifting unit, although the low-speed performance is pretty good. It tends to hiccup not from a start, but when you ask it to suddenly give you power when you’re already moving, where a moment of hesitation still seems to exist.

On this topic, even in Sport mode with things dialed up, the manual shifts have enough of a delay when you pull the paddle shifters to take you out of the action. Something not the case in this car’s very good Giulia sedan sibling and its much sharper attitude.

The exhaust, despite its keen start-up attitude, is only okay when you’re riding it up the rev-range.

The Tonale is pretty good on the curvy stuff, although I was expecting more. The aforementioned sharp steering combines nicely with the more aggressive wider track and sporty stiff suspension to make for a halfway decent corner-carving experience, but if you were expecting a lifted hot hatch, it falls short.

The power from the turbo engine and hybrid system simply isn’t punchy or responsive enough to make it thrilling. On top of that, you can feel the height from its SUV body, which makes it a bit uncouth when pushed. Suffice it to say, despite the upmarket Bridgestone Turanza tyre package fitted to our car, there’s a lot of tyre torture when cornering enthusiastically.

It’s actually annoying how much this car teases you with a good time, only to never quite get there.

The more performance-oriented set-up comes with drawbacks, too. This car is a bit noisy at freeway speeds and can have harsh crashy suspension moments on sub-par city roads.

It also has some signature Alfa personality quirks. Somewhere under or next to my seat near the driver’s door had a persistent squeak, for example. Despite my attempts to find it by pushing on every panel or piece of the door and seat to try and find it, it would only make the sound when I was sitting down. 

It’s just like the last Giulia I drove which had a rattle behind the instrument cluster. It wouldn’t be an Alfa Romeo otherwise, I suppose.

There is a clear line of demarcation between the Chery brand and Jaecoo, and the J8 drives substantially better than Chery’s line of budget-friendly Tiggo SUVs.

We spent most of our time in the Ridge AWD and the fancy active suspension makes a huge impact. It keeps the vehicle in check through corners, exerting excellent body control. It's a bit unnerving how flat the car sits through the bends with next to no body roll.

Despite riding on giant 20-inch wheels the J8 soaks up bumps and road imperfections with ease.

The Track 2WD falls off noticeably in this regard without the active damping.

The steering is light and a bit floaty, which saps confidence when entering corners as there isn’t a lot of feedback on what is happening underneath you.

The steering ratio seems a bit wide of the mark, the wheel needing more input than we'd like.

The engine delivers decent grunt and it's tuned for leisurely acceleration rather than performance. 

There was the odd occasion when the transmission and the motor weren't quite in sync and you might get a bit of hesitation and then too much oomph all at once.

It has no problems getting up to speed on the motorway and handles overtaking with ease. 

Jaecoo, and its parent company Chery, have worked hard on the safety tech calibration and it's much less intrusive on the J8 than some earlier models. This applies especially to the lane keep assist, which only steps in when needed. There are far fewer bings and bongs than before.

You sit up nice and high in the J8, which gives you a good view of the road ahead, but the sloped rear window restricts vision out the back compared to boxier shaped SUVs.

It is a big rig and you feel that on the road, even the Jaecoo team said you’d notice the width of the J8 on the road, which might be an issue if you live in compact inner city areas or deal with cramped car spaces.

The J8 hasn’t been tested by ANCAP yet, but it is expected to get the same five-star score as the J7.

One thing that jumps out is the AWD version gets two more airbags than the 2WD variant.

The Ridge AWD adds two side airbags to the rear row, while the Track 2WD makes do with curtain airbag protection only in the back seat.

It covers all the bases for active safety with auto emergency braking, lane keep assist, lane departure warning, rear cross-traffic alert with auto braking, blind-spot detection, speed recognition, active cruise control and door opening alert.

The Tonale range gets a five-year and unlimited kilometre warranty with a matching five years of roadside assist.

Indicative service pricing, available via the online calculator, extends out to 10 years, and for the life of the warranty costs an average of $666.10 per year or 15,000km visit. That’s a little pricey, with a particular sting at the 48 month mark costing $1421.44 in one visit.

Somewhat shocking residuals for Alfa Romeos are worth factoring in even if you’re purchasing one as part of a novated lease as the value of the car can be much lower than expected by the time your lease expires.

And it’s worth noting there are only eight primary Alfa dealerships and 18 service centres across Australia.

Jaecoo backs its cars for eight years and unlimited km, which is one of the most comprehensive in the business. MG, Mitsubishi and Nissan all have 10 year warranties but are not unlimited km and Mitsubishi and Nissan need you to only service at their dealerships.

Jaecoo backs this up with an eight-year capped priced servicing program, which costs $2952 for the Track 2WD and $3452 for the Ridge AWD. That’s slightly on the expensive side but better than being at the whim of the mechanic after five years.

Keep in mind the fourth and eight year services are biggies, costing $699 and $799 in the Ridge AWD and $499 and $599 in the Track 2WD.

You also get eight years of roadside assistance if you service your car at the dealership.