What's the difference?
The Audi Q8 has had a mid-life upgrade and it brings a few minor tweaks to the design, technology and equipment.
Plug-in hybrids tend to rank a little lower on my excitement scale when it comes to available powertrains because I usually find the constant charging inconvenient.
However, the electric driving range of the 60 TSFIe quattro S Line grade has been bolstered by 27km, increasing it to 74km overall.
They call it the Toyota LandCruiser (two words) but to Australian eyes it looks like what we affectionately call a Prado. But it’s what’s underneath the surface, beyond the name, that makes this car so interesting.
We recently had the opportunity to drive the Toyota LandCruiser in the US, where the engine isn’t the usual turbo diesel found in the Prado, but rather a petrol-electric hybrid that Australian buyers are denied.
So we wanted to know if we were missing out on something special or if Toyota Australia made the right call to stick with a diesel-only option. Aside from the engine the LandCruiser is very similar to the Prado, so we’ll focus on the key difference rather than detailing the minor changes across the pair.
We spent time behind the wheel of the US LandCruiser to find out, spending a few days driving it around Los Angeles to get a feel for it.
The updated Audi Q8 60 TFSIe quattro S line still looks good inside and out. It fits a family comfortably without feeling too big and there’s enough here to satisfy those who like the luxury features.
It's price tag will hurt it but the improved power outputs and driving range is a big plus and makes the plug-in hybrid powertrain make more sense.
While no doubt the hybrid would appeal to some buyers, given the limits in towing capacity and higher fuel consumption, the extra performance doesn’t really make the i-Force Max a compelling proposition for the LandCruiser/Prado. Australian buyers have made it abundantly clear they’re happy with the Prado already on sale, so it’s hard to see the hybrid having too much success here alongside the diesel engine.
When it comes to style, the Q8 60 TFSIe quattro S line has it in spades. Featuring a design that looks athletic with its long lines and wide stance, you'll always be proud to hop into it.
Red calipers now come standard and they look awesome on the optioned 22-inch alloys. The update sees a redesigned front with new grille and reshaped matrix LED headlights and a 2D badge design.
While SUV coupes aren’t usually my jam, the Q8 manages to tick the 'sexy' box.
The interior is honestly the same and only die-hard fans will notice the new menu screens on the multimedia system. The cabin is a fine example of what a luxury SUV should look like because its polished, well-built and sumptuous but it has the classic Audi edge, so there is still a sporty vibe going on.
The panoramic sunroof adds some airiness to the otherwise dark cabin and the Valcona leather upholstery is liberally splashed about, so most of what you touch feels premium and soft.
The Prado and LandCruiser largely look the same, but the 1958 we drove did have a few standout elements from a design perspective.
The most obvious are the retro round headlights of the 1958, which are meant to hark back to the original FJ Cruiser. The retro theme is helped by the round light framing the large rectangular mesh grille with ‘TOYOTA’ in big, bold letters.
Personally, I really like the round lights and think it’s a shame the Australian-bound Prado misses out, purely for the aesthetics.
Inside the cabin also feels like a throwback in time, but not to the 1950s, rather the late ‘80s and early ‘90s with the grey cloth trim. It’s a brave decision from Toyota to ditch a more modern look and feel, but, again, I really like it. It feels hard-wearing and suits the nature of the Land Cruiser in the US market, where it has to woo buyers away from Bronco and Wrangler.
One design choice of note is the US-spec version has ‘LandCruiser’ embossed on the dashboard ahead of the passenger, something else we miss out on here with our Prado.
The cabin offers plenty of space for passengers and you never feel like you're jostling for elbow room unless there's three adults across the rear seat. Comfort is high with ergonomic seating up front with plenty of adjustment and functions. The rear seat has long bases and the seat backs can recline.
Individual storage leaves a little to be desired for the class and the glove box shoulders most of the burden up front as the middle console is really just a shallow shelf large enough for a wireless charging pad and keys or a chapstick.
Each row gets a couple of cupholders and drink holders, and the rear map pockets round out back-seat storage.
Because of the PHEV powertrain, the 60 TFSIe quattro S line has the smallest boot capacity in the line-up at 505L but this is still more than enough for a decent road trip or grocery haul.
The wide boot aperture, level loading area and powered tailgate add some convenience, as does the 40/20/40 split fold on the rear seats.
Access for each row is solid with wide door openings, low seat positions and 205mm ground clearance. Although, the doors have to been slammed shut for them to close properly and this annoyed everyone in the family. You can spring for a soft-close door feature for $1500 and, honestly, it would be worth it.
The 10.1-inch touchscreen multimedia system is logically laid out and the graphics look great. It has haptic feedback which my husband didn’t love as it made it hard to select things on a bumpy road. You also get built-in sat nav, wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. Other than the occasional lag with the CarPlay connecting upon start up, it's all simple enough to use.
Charging options are good with two USB-C ports in each row and the front also gets a wireless charging pad. The big 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster looks great but it can be annoying to find information on it or personalise it.
As the entry-grade variant in the US range, the LandCruiser 1958 is more utilitarian than pampering. That translates to a cabin that has plenty of usability, just like the Australian-delivered LandCruiser Prados we’re used to.
There’s nothing overtly different about the US-spec model, with good space and small item storage in the front and decent room in the second row.
The multimedia system is the same as the one used here too, which speaks to Toyota’s strength for consistency of product around the world. It means anyone driving a Toyota - whether it’s in Australia, the US or elsewhere - has a sense of familiarity immediately.
It also helps that Toyota has stuck with a large amount of physical buttons and switchgear (I counted nearly 50) in addition to the touchscreen. While other brands look to cut controls to save money at the expense of usability, Toyota is sticking with what people know and enjoy.
However, the US version of the Prado has the same riser box inside the boot, which limits its cargo capacity in the same way as it has done here. It's still a reasonable size, but the riser does eat into space and compromises practicality.
There are three Q8 grades before you hop into the flagship SQ8 performance model, and the variant on test for this review sits second from the top.
The mid-life refresh sees pricing increased across the entire range and adds over $1700 to the (already steep) $154,284 MSRP price tag.
Compared to its plug-in hybrid rivals, the BMW X5 xDrive50e and Volvo XC90 Recharge Ultra T8, the 60 TFSIe quattro S line slides in as the most expensive.
Our test vehicle has also been fitted with a few extra items like 22-inch alloys, metallic paint and a luxury seat package, which adds ventilation function to the front seats and heated rear outboard seats. It does tack on $9900 to the overall price tag, though.
The 10.1-inch multimedia system remains and while it sits on the smaller end compared to some of its rivals now, it does get an updated layout and apps for 2025.
Other standard equipment includes a panoramic sunroof, matrix LED headlights, heated side mirrors with memory, keyless entry and start, a powered tailgate, heated front seats, electric lumbar support, three-zone climate control, electrically adjustable steering wheel, electric auto cargo cover, and a tyre repair kit.
The technology is the standout with a 17-speaker Bang & Olufsen sound system, wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, digital radio, as well as built-in satellite navigation, a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster and colour head-up display.
You also get an Audi Connect plus app which allows remote access for security and assistance services including car finder with remote signal, remote lock and unlock, emergency call, and online roadside assistance.
Does the PHEV Q8 offer good value? Value is relative, the features list is fairly robust but it’s hard to ignore that this PHEV sits $10K above its internal combustion siblings.
For a bit of context to why the Prado is known as the LandCruiser in the States, Toyota USA skips the Fortuner for the 4Runner and ignores the LandCruiser 300 Series in favour of the Tundra-twinned Sequoia. That leaves the iconic LandCruiser nameplate unused, so it does make sense to ditch the ‘Prado’ name.
In the US it is positioned as a rival to the likes of the Ford Bronco and Jeep Wrangler, aimed at off-road adventure types, rather than the family market.
We drove the LandCruiser 1958, an entry-grade specification that has a ‘retro’ look and feel and features some unique design elements. It’s priced from US$56,700 (approx. $86,300), which is significantly more than the $72,500 Prado GX that starts our local range.
Despite the retro elements the 1958 variant gets a reasonable level of standard equipment, including keyless entry and ignition, heated fabric seats, climate control, a 7.0-inch digital instrument display panel, an 8.0-inch multimedia touchscreen, six-speaker sound system and wireless Apple CarPlay and Android auto.
The Q8 60 TFSI e is AWD and has a 3.0-litre V6 turbo-petrol plug-in hybrid powertrain for a combined power output of 360kW and 700Nm of torque.
The power output has increased by 20kW with the mid-life refresh and that shaves 0.4 seconds off the 0-100km/h sprint time bringing it down to just 5.0 seconds. So it’s a quick and powerful SUV.
The powertrain is paired with an eight-speed automatic transmission which is mostly smooth and the switch between petrol and electric is fairly seamless.
As far as plug-in hybrids go, everything seems to work well here.
This is the heart of our review, the unavailable hybrid engine, the so-called 'i-Force Max' hybrid powertrain. This is because the US market has never embraced diesel engines, which are so beloved by Prado owners in Australia, so in the search for greater efficiency, Toyota USA is leaning on hybrid technology.
The set-up in the LandCruiser combines a 2.4-litre four-cylinder turbocharged petrol engine with an electric motor in the bell housing between the engine and eight-speed automatic transmission. The combined output of this petrol-electric hybrid is 243kW of power and 630Nm of torque, which is significantly more than the 150kW/500Nm offered by the 2.8-litre turbo diesel offered in Australia.
The catch is, despite the additional power and torque, the LandCruiser is only rated to tow slightly more than 2700kg compared to the 3500kg towing capacity offered by our diesel Prado.
The mid-life update sees a larger 25.9kWh lithium-ion battery which improves the electric driving range by 27km, bringing it up to 74km overall. This still falls short of its direct rivals but it’s an improvement for efficiency because it’s now more than enough range if you’re just doing the school runs and some errands around town.
The Q8 60 TFSIe has a Type 2 charging port and like most plug-in hybrids, lacks a CCS enhancement, so you have to make do with AC charging options with this one. On a 7.4kW AC charging system you can go from 0-100 per cent in three hours and 45 minutes but if you’re using just a standard house plug port, it will take a few hours more. It's best to leave it overnight.
Audi throws in three charging cables, including a 240-volt domestic charger but you have to pay extra for a wall-mounted box.
The official combined fuel cycle is a low 1.8L/100km and like all plug-ins the best efficiency will be achieved if you charge it often. After charging almost every day and doing a mix of open road and urban driving, my real-world usage has popped out at 7.7L/100km, which isn’t as good as I was hoping but it’s not terrible. I would expect the efficiency to drop on longer trips.
The Q8 likes to drink the good stuff and Audi recommends a minimum 95 RON unleaded petrol to be used for this grade.
Obviously one of the biggest reasons for offering/choosing a hybrid engine is fuel efficiency and on that front the LandCruiser runs into the classic problem of big car, small engine. The official combined urban/highway fuel economy figure for the hybrid is 10.2L/100km, which is well behind the official claim for the diesel-powered Prado of just 7.6L/100km.
Drilling in deeper, the LandCruiser hybrid can drop as low as 9.4L/100km on the highway but rises to 10.6L/100km in a purely urban environment, which is typically the opposite to how hybrids excel.
The other major difference between the LandCruiser and our Prado is the size of the fuel tank. The US model only gets a 67-litre tank compared to the 110L offered in Australian models. That, naturally, has a major impact on range, with the LandCruiser hybrid only able to go a theoretical 656km on a single tank, compared to nearly 1300km for the Prado diesel.
The Q8's athletic looks are matched by its on-road handling. The power has a hefty kick that’s effortlessly delivered once you’re up to speed. It did have a few confused moments when I had to accelerate quickly from a full stop - the lower gears didn’t immediately engage and I got a proper bunny hop but it was short lived and for the most part the powertrain delivers the goods.
The adaptive air suspension makes for a comfortable ride despite the massive wheels and you can comfortably cruise around town or the highway without much jostling.
Cabin noise is minimal around town but you get a low hum of road noise at higher speeds. Overall, it's still a refined cabin space to spend a lot of time in.
I do miss hearing some of the engine thrums though because even when the battery is depleted, you don’t get a lot of engine feedback. It certainly adds to the refinement but it loses some of the fun.
The higher driving position feels comfortable and visibility is quite good. Steering is responsive and feels sporty with lane changes but its 13.3m turning circle lets it down in car parks.
The 360-degree view camera system is clear and this has multiple parking sensors. In theory parking should be easy but again, until you get used to that bigger turning circle it can feel clumsy in smaller spaces.
While it may be a hybrid, the LandCruiser is no urban ‘show pony’ and Toyota USA is adamant that it is tough enough to live up to the reputation of its famous nameplate. It’s built on the same TNGA-F platform as our Prado - as well as the Tundra pick-up and others - so it has the foundations for rugged adventure.
It comes standard with locking centre and rear differentials, rear coil springs, full-time four-wheel drive, a two-speed transfer case, ‘CRAWL Control’, a 2400W AC inverter and standard trailer brake controller, which are all must-haves for anyone planning a serious off-road trip.
While we have little reason to doubt the off-road ability of the LandCruiser, our test drive was limited to the urban jungle of Los Angeles, which allowed us to really focus on the powertrain.
Not surprisingly, given its similarities with other Toyota hybrid set-ups, it felt very familiar, albeit in a very different vehicle than the RAV4 and Camry we’ve driven previously. Despite its big on-paper numbers, there was some noticeable lag on initial acceleration and the engine sounds like a modern four-cylinder - a bit gruff when revved hard.
It certainly has enough performance to pull the LandCruiser along, but it isn’t over-endowed with power and torque. At least not in the way its stats suggest.
For the most part, around town, it did a good job of quietly motivating the big SUV around with a minimum of fuss.
The PHEV Q8 variant is unrated with ANCAP as it’s not covered by it’s siblings' five-star rating from 2019, but it does have a lot of standard safety features like eight airbags, including side chest airbags for the front and rear passengers. Surprisingly, it misses out on a front centre airbag though.
A standout feature is the safe exit assist which will delay your door from opening if it detects a car or cyclist. Always a handy thing when you have a kid like mine who can carelessly throw open their door.
There is also a ‘pre-sense’ feature where the car detects that you’re approaching traffic at lights or a roundabout and it will automatically start slowing down for you, which I quite liked.
Other standard features include adaptive cruise control with stop and go, lane keeping aid, lane departure warning, blind-spot monitoring, forward collision warning, rear cross-traffic alert, driver attention monitoring (sound and visual alerts), 360-degree view camera system, front and rear parking sensors, tyre pressure loss indicator, intelligent seatbelt reminders, first aid kit, hi-vis vests and a collapsible warning triangle.
The autonomous emergency braking (AEB) has car, cyclist and pedestrian detection and is operational up to 85km/h (up to 250km/h for cars).
There are two ISOFIX child seat mounts and three top tether anchor points. The rear seat is wide enough to accommodate three child seats side by side.
The safety systems feel well-calibrated and are not intrusive for daily driving. In a world when cars seem to chime an alert for everything, this is a welcomed plus.
Being a US-specific model there is no ANCAP or Euro NCAP crash testing data, but given the diesel model scored a five-star rating there’s little evidence to suggest it would be any less safe.
All US LandCruiser models come standard with the Toyota Safety Sense 3.0 suite of active safety features. This includes pre-collision warning, lane departure warning with steering assist, lane tracing assist, road sign assist and full-speed adaptive cruise control.
Audi offers the Q8 60 TFSIe with a five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty and the battery is covered by an eight-year/160,000km warranty which are all pretty standard terms compared to its rivals.
There is a standard five-year servicing package that costs $3570 and servicing intervals are spaced at every 12 months or 15,000km, whichever occurs first. However, if you purchase the Audi Advantage Package you add a further two years of coverage to the warranty, roadside assistance and servicing, which is pretty good for the class.
One big plus for the LandCruiser over the Prado is Toyota USA offers two years of free servicing - a nice bonus.
It does have different warranty coverage for different components though, the overall vehicle warranty covers the first three years, the powertrain is covered for five years but the hybrid components are warranted for 10 years.