Audi Q8 vs Toyota Tundra

What's the difference?

The updated Audi Q8 60 TFSIe quattro S line still looks good inside and out. It fits a family comfortably without feeling too big and there’s enough here to satisfy those who like the luxury features. 

It's price tag will hurt it but the improved power outputs and driving range is a big plus and makes the plug-in hybrid powertrain make more sense.

The Tundra Platinum is a good-looking and well-engineered RHD full-size US pickup which stands apart from local competitors with its unique hybrid drivetrain and unmatched power/torque outputs. However, it also comes with a conspicuously high purchase price, which given the quality of local Ram, Chevrolet and Ford competition could be a deal-breaker for some.

When it comes to style, the Q8 60 TFSIe quattro S line has it in spades. Featuring a design that looks athletic with its long lines and wide stance, you'll always be proud to hop into it.

Red calipers now come standard and they look awesome on the optioned 22-inch alloys. The update sees a redesigned front with new grille and reshaped matrix LED headlights and a 2D badge design.

While SUV coupes aren’t usually my jam, the Q8 manages to tick the 'sexy' box.

The interior is honestly the same and only die-hard fans will notice the new menu screens on the multimedia system. The cabin is a fine example of what a luxury SUV should look like because its polished, well-built and sumptuous but it has the classic Audi edge, so there is still a sporty vibe going on.

The panoramic sunroof adds some airiness to the otherwise dark cabin and the Valcona leather upholstery is liberally splashed about, so most of what you touch feels premium and soft.

This is a substantial vehicle with bold, bluff-fronted styling characterised by an enormous grille that has an imposing presence wherever it roams.

Toyota's TNGA-F ladder-frame chassis platform is shared with the LandCruiser 300 Series and Prado models, but the big American has a much longer 3700mm wheelbase, spans almost six metres in length (5955mm) and is more than two metres wide (2040mm). However, it’s less than two metres tall (1985mm), so it can access underground and multi-storey carparks. 

It rides on double-wishbone coil-spring front suspension and a multi-link coil-spring live rear axle, with electric power-assisted rack and pinion steering and big four-wheel disc brakes.

Off-road credentials include 216mm of ground clearance, 23 degrees approach and 21 degrees departure angles – which are ample for accessing rugged worksites – while the turning circle is an expansive 15 metres.

The interior, with its panoramic sunroof, has a spacious and airy ambience, enhanced by contrasting blue stitching on its leather-appointed upholstery.

Although the cabin has a high standard of fit and finish, as you’d expect from Toyota and WAG, it doesn't look and feel quite as lavish as the sumptuous interiors found in its top-shelf US rivals. The centre console lid in particular feels too light and plasticky for a vehicle in this price range.

The cabin offers plenty of space for passengers and you never feel like you're jostling for elbow room unless there's three adults across the rear seat. Comfort is high with ergonomic seating up front with plenty of adjustment and functions. The rear seat has long bases and the seat backs can recline.

Individual storage leaves a little to be desired for the class and the glove box shoulders most of the burden up front as the middle console is really just a shallow shelf large enough for a wireless charging pad and keys or a chapstick.

Each row gets a couple of cupholders and drink holders, and the rear map pockets round out back-seat storage.

Because of the PHEV powertrain, the 60 TFSIe quattro S line has the smallest boot capacity in the line-up at 505L but this is still more than enough for a decent road trip or grocery haul.

The wide boot aperture, level loading area and powered tailgate add some convenience, as does the 40/20/40 split fold on the rear seats.

Access for each row is solid with wide door openings, low seat positions and 205mm ground clearance. Although, the doors have to been slammed shut for them to close properly and this annoyed everyone in the family. You can spring for a soft-close door feature for $1500 and, honestly, it would be worth it.

The 10.1-inch touchscreen multimedia system is logically laid out and the graphics look great. It has haptic feedback which my husband didn’t love as it made it hard to select things on a bumpy road. You also get built-in sat nav, wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. Other than the occasional lag with the CarPlay connecting upon start up, it's all simple enough to use.

Charging options are good with two USB-C ports in each row and the front also gets a wireless charging pad. The big 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster looks great but it can be annoying to find information on it or personalise it.

With its 2834kg kerb weight and 3536kg GVM, the Platinum has a 702kg payload limit which is modest compared to smaller 4x4 utes with genuine one-tonne-plus capabilities.

However, it’s rated to tow up to 4500kg of braked trailer on a 70mm ball and with its substantial 7980kg GCM (or how much weight it can legally carry and tow at the same time) that would require only a small drop in payload from 702kg to 646kg to avoid exceeding the GCM. So, that’s a practical set of numbers if you ever need to tow the maximum 4.5 tonnes.

The load tub is 1660mm long, 1491mm wide and 531mm deep, with 1237mm between its rear wheel-housings allowing either a standard Aussie or Euro pallet. It’s accessed through a power tailgate, which can be operated from the driver’s seat if required.

The tub’s internal surfaces are protected by a composite drop-in liner, with handy slots moulded into each side for vertically inserting planks of wood to serve as lateral load-dividers if required.

The Platinum's tub also has unique hooded LED lighting in each sidewall, plus there’s fixed load-anchorage points front and rear at mid-height (would be better if just above floor height) and rails with adjustable sliding anchorages along the top of the front and side walls for securing taller loads.

Cabin storage includes two 600mL bottle-holders and storage bins in each front door plus a decent-sized single glovebox, a 12V dash socket and an overhead glasses-holder.

The centre console offers open storage up front including a wireless phone-charging pad, plus a pair of small-bottle/cupholders in the centre and a large lidded box at the back containing USB ports.

The large rear doors, with pull-up privacy screens on their windows, provide wide entry to the rear bench seat. There’s enough shoulder room for three adults and even tall passengers enjoy ample legroom, although those seats in the centre must contend with a transmission hump, which is absent in its flat-floored rivals.

There’s two 600mL bottle-holders and a bin in each rear door, plus large pockets on each front seat backrest and two more bottle/cupholders at the rear of the centre console, which also has controls for rear seat heating/cooling, plus USB ports and adjustable air-vents.

If travelling with two, the centre seat backrest folds down to provide a comfortable armrest and two more bottle/cupholders (that's 14 in total), so drink storage is well catered for in this cabin.

The rear seat’s 60/40-split base cushions can also swing up and be stored vertically for more internal luggage space, but there’s no storage compartments underneath as this space is occupied by the hybrid drivetrain’s battery, with large vents on either side providing it with ample ventilation.

Our only criticism of the rear seating is limited headroom for tall people, caused by a deep contour in the roof-lining to accommodate the Platinum’s sunroof.

This contour sits very close to foreheads and limits head space. So, if you have tall passengers, they might get cranky on long drives, particularly those seated in the slightly higher centre position with (like me) the top of their head pressed firmly into the roof lining.

Our recently launched Platinum test vehicle is, like its Limited sibling, available only with Toyota’s ‘i-FORCE MAX’ hybrid powertrain, which combines a 3.5-litre twin-turbo V6 petrol engine, electric motor-generator, traction battery and 10-speed automatic transmission, for a list price of $172,990 plus on-road costs.

That pricing is $17,000 more than the Limited and considerably higher than Australian premium-grade RHD rivals including the Ford F-150 Lariat LWB ($140,945), Chevrolet Silverado 1500 ZR2 ($141,500) and Ram 1500 Limited ($159,950). Note the F-150 has temporarily been withdrawn from sale in Australia due to an ADR compliance issue.

The Tundra Platinum shares numerous standard features with the Limited, including 20-inch alloy wheels (although the Platinum’s wheel design is unique) with 265/60R20 tyres and a 245/75R18 ‘space saver’ spare (to optimise its underfloor-mounted ground clearance), LED lighting, heated door mirrors, an automatic ‘active’ front spoiler, side steps, a power tailgate, a tub liner, a 3500kg towing kit and front/rear parking sensors to name a few.

The cabin has smart entry/start, dual-zone climate, front seat heating/cooling, a leather-accented steering wheel and shifter, a 12.3-inch driver’s digital instrument cluster, a 12-speaker JBL audio system with a 14-inch multimedia touchscreen and multiple connectivity including Apple/Android devices, wireless phone charging, power sliding rear glass, five USB ports and more.

The Platinum adds not only its unique black-painted alloy wheels but also a bold mesh grille design with dark chrome surround, black body detailing, tailgate spoiler and rain-sensing wipers.

The cabin gets a full-length panoramic sunroof and leather-accented trim, with the front seats equipped with 10-way power adjustment including a massage function. There’s also heating/cooling for the outer rear seats, heated steering wheel with power tilt-reach adjustment and 10.9-inch colour head-up display.

The Q8 60 TFSI e is AWD and has a 3.0-litre V6 turbo-petrol plug-in hybrid powertrain for a combined power output of 360kW and 700Nm of torque.

The power output has increased by 20kW with the mid-life refresh and that shaves 0.4 seconds off the 0-100km/h sprint time bringing it down to just 5.0 seconds. So it’s a quick and powerful SUV.

The powertrain is paired with an eight-speed automatic transmission which is mostly smooth and the switch between petrol and electric is fairly seamless.

As far as plug-in hybrids go, everything seems to work well here.

The Tundra’s powertrain consists of a 3.5-litre twin-turbocharged V6 petrol engine that produces 290kW of power at 5200rpm and 649Nm of torque between 2400-3600rpm.

This is paired with an electric motor mounted directly behind, which produces 36kW/250Nm and draws its electrons from a 6.5Ahr Ni-MH (nickel metal hydride) battery located beneath the rear seat.

Their combined output is 326kW and 790Nm, which is more power and torque than any of its local rivals and therefore appealing for those who need to haul and/or tow heavy loads.

Its refined 10-speed torque converter automatic offers the choice of sequential manual-shifting, a dedicated Tow/Haul setting and three drive modes comprising Normal (default), Sport and Eco.

The 4WD system is part-time, dual-range with 2H (2WD High Range), 4H (4WD High Range) and 4L (4WD Low Range). There’s also an automatic limited-slip rear differential, but unlike its competitors no full-time AWD mode is available.

The mid-life update sees a larger 25.9kWh lithium-ion battery which improves the electric driving range by 27km, bringing it up to 74km overall. This still falls short of its direct rivals but it’s an improvement for efficiency because it’s now more than enough range if you’re just doing the school runs and some errands around town.

The Q8 60 TFSIe has a Type 2 charging port and like most plug-in hybrids, lacks a CCS enhancement, so you have to make do with AC charging options with this one. On a 7.4kW AC charging system you can go from 0-100 per cent in three hours and 45 minutes but if you’re using just a standard house plug port, it will take a few hours more. It's best to leave it overnight.

Audi throws in three charging cables, including a 240-volt domestic charger but you have to pay extra for a wall-mounted box.

The official combined fuel cycle is a low 1.8L/100km and like all plug-ins the best efficiency will be achieved if you charge it often. After charging almost every day and doing a mix of open road and urban driving, my real-world usage has popped out at 7.7L/100km, which isn’t as good as I was hoping but it’s not terrible. I would expect the efficiency to drop on longer trips.

The Q8 likes to drink the good stuff and Audi recommends a minimum 95 RON unleaded petrol to be used for this grade.

With the Tundra’s GVM rating exceeding 3.5 tonnes, Toyota is not required under current ADRs to publish fuel consumption figures. Even so, we covered a total distance of 298km, which comprised a mix of suburban, city and highway driving of which about one third was hauling a near-maximum payload.

When we stopped to refuel, the dash display was claiming average combined consumption of 14.1L/100km, but our own figure calculated from fuel bowser and tripmeter readings was 15.8, which is in the same ballpark as mid-teen figures we’ve achieved in its six and eight-cylinder rivals.

Therefore, based on our own figure, the Tundra Platinum has a real-world driving range nudging 800km from its big 122-litre tank, which according to Toyota requires minimum 95 RON petrol.

The Q8's athletic looks are matched by its on-road handling. The power has a hefty kick that’s effortlessly delivered once you’re up to speed. It did have a few confused moments when I had to accelerate quickly from a full stop - the lower gears didn’t immediately engage and I got a proper bunny hop but it was short lived and for the most part the powertrain delivers the goods.

The adaptive air suspension makes for a comfortable ride despite the massive wheels and you can comfortably cruise around town or the highway without much jostling.

Cabin noise is minimal around town but you get a low hum of road noise at higher speeds. Overall, it's still a refined cabin space to spend a lot of time in.

I do miss hearing some of the engine thrums though because even when the battery is depleted, you don’t get a lot of engine feedback. It certainly adds to the refinement but it loses some of the fun.

The higher driving position feels comfortable and visibility is quite good. Steering is responsive and feels sporty with lane changes but its 13.3m turning circle lets it down in car parks.

The 360-degree view camera system is clear and this has multiple parking sensors. In theory parking should be easy but again, until you get used to that bigger turning circle it can feel clumsy in smaller spaces.

The side steps are set close to the sills and, therefore, a bit narrow for size 12 boots, but big handles on the A and B pillars assist climbing aboard, where you’re rewarded with a spacious driving position with multiple adjustments.

The analogue-flavoured RHD dash module has numerous physical dials, buttons and switches, which thankfully leaves minimal reliance on distracting touchscreen prompts. Some items, like the left-hand-side indicator stalk and HVAC controls, are biased towards LHD, but you soon get used to these idiosyncrasies.

Its excellent steering feel, braking response, supple but responsive four-coil ride quality and effective noise insulation are what we’ve come to expect from WAG’s extensive remanufacturing process. In the Tundra’s case, it uses many original equipment components from existing Toyota 4WD vehicles and OEM suppliers.

The V6 engine produces a meaty V8-style soundtrack, with a melodic throb at idle and a guttural roar at full throttle. From standing starts, the abundant torque gets more than 2.8 tonnes of pickup to triple-digit speeds in about six seconds, which is comparable to Ford's sporty Ranger Raptor.

The hybrid drivetrain displays excellent refinement, as it continuously and seamlessly switches between petrol and electric power to optimise performance and economy. The Tundra is also an effortless highway cruiser, with negligible tyre and wind noise at 110km/h allowing conversations at loungeroom levels.

To test its load-hauling ability we strapped just over 500kg into the load tub, which with our two-man crew equalled a total payload of 675kg that was nudging its GVM limit. The coil-spring rear suspension only compressed 50mm, leaving ample bump-stop clearance and no risk of bottoming-out on our test route.

It made light work of hauling this payload in city and suburban driving and didn’t seem to notice it had anything in the load tub on our 13 per cent gradient, 2.0km set-climb at 60km/h.

Engine-braking on the way down, in a manually-selected second gear, wasn’t as robust as expected given the assistance of regenerative braking, but the large four-wheel disc brakes were more than capable of keeping speeds under 60km/h when called upon during the descent.

Like its local US competitors, the RHD Tundra does not have an ANCAP rating but comes with a suite of passive and active safety features. These include eight airbags, AEB with day cyclist detection and day/night pedestrian/oncoming vehicle detection, lane-keeping, trailer sway control, trailer back-up guide with straight path assist (makes reversing a trailer easy and safe), blind-spot monitoring, rear cross-traffic alert, front/rear parking sensors, panoramic view monitor and more. The rear seat has two ISOFIX and two top-tether child-seat anchorages.

Audi offers the Q8 60 TFSIe with a five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty and the battery is covered by an eight-year/160,000km warranty which are all pretty standard terms compared to its rivals.

There is a standard five-year servicing package that costs $3570 and servicing intervals are spaced at every 12 months or 15,000km, whichever occurs first. However, if you purchase the Audi Advantage Package you add a further two years of coverage to the warranty, roadside assistance and servicing, which is pretty good for the class.

The Tundra comes with Toyota’s five-year/unlimited-kilometre warranty, which is class-leading.

Scheduled servicing is six months/10,000km whichever occurs first, with capped-pricing of $450 per service for the first five years/100,000km. So, that’s $900 annually, if serviced twice a year as scheduled.

Toyota currently has 275 dealers across its vast network located in metro, rural and regional areas. Toyota dealerships are also service centres.