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The EX30 Cross Country is the new adventure-focussed top-shelf variant in Volvo’s small electric SUV line-up.
This five-seat compact crossover has a dual-motor electric set-up, all-wheel drive, raised suspension, more ground clearance than a regular EX30 and an exterior that more than hints at its off-road aspirations.
But just how much potential does this Cross Country have as an all-wheel drive adventure machine?
It’s about time for a change. Since the beginning of the EV era, Tesla has been the dominant name, and not without good reason.
Tesla made electric cars popular, cool, and above all, accessible. To this day, the Model 3 and Model Y remain excellent purchases in their respective categories.
And yet, the tide seems to be turning. Many buyers haven't been thrilled by Elon Musk's antics, how popular the Tesla brand has become or maybe they never liked the look and feel of Tesla to begin with.
For those prospective EV buyers, it looks like BYD is set to be the next big thing in electric cars.
Offered at a far more accessible price-point, the Chinese brand still stands out with its distinctively styled vehicles and innovative features.
And the new car we’re looking at for this review, the Dolphin hatchback, could be the one to elevate the brand to the levels of popularity and recognition Tesla currently enjoys.
At the time of writing, it was also the most affordable electric car you can buy in Australia. But is it more than that? Read on to find out.
There’s a lot to like about the Volvo EX30 Cross Country. It’s an impressive AWD EV. Nice to drive, comfortable and offering the extra driver confidence an AWD system brings.
It also looks good, has a decent stack of features onboard and has plenty of appeal for owners, especially in terms of servicing costs.
As an EV tourer, it has a reasonable driving range and offers enough in terms of AWD flexibility to appeal to those people who may like the idea of an all-electric adventure machine.
But it is small, has a limited scope of off-road capability and pricing is ranging upward for what it offers.
Chinese manufacturers have been impressing us lately with the strides they’ve been making, and BYD is no exception with its Dolphin.
Not only does this hatch help bring the price down for prospective EV buyers, but it leaves a solid impression of a cohesive, well-built car, which is also quite a bit of fun to drive.
It’s not the fastest, nor is it the most practical, and there are a handful of downsides to its design and software, but when it comes down to it, this is simply a great value entry-level electric car.
This Cross Country is 4233mm long (with a 2650mm wheelbase) 1850mm wide, and 1567mm high. It has a listed kerb weight of 1910kg.
It’s a slick-looking compact SUV with more than its fair share of hints at its off-road aspirations including raised suspension so it perches higher off the deck than its regular EX30 stablemates (190mm of ground clearance). It has dark coloured front and rear body panelling, dark wheel-arch extensions (built to cop any loose gravel or dirt while all-wheel driving on well-maintained bush tracks), and if you get on the ground to check, front and rear skid-plates.
Quirky touches include an impression on the front bumper section of a topographical map depicting the highest mountain range in Sweden (as well as the apparent co-ordinates to that location), and interesting doodles under the lid of the front boot (what I like to call the 'froot' whereas as you might call it the frunk for front trunk).
Overall, the Cross Country has a spartan-style cabin. No, I don’t mean there are swords and shields and oiled-up blokes in loin cloths here – just that there’s a clear, basic layout that leans more towards functional than flashy.
It also has a fixed-in-place panoramic glass roof that has no sliding cover built into the ceiling and I’m not a big fan of having my noggin exposed all of the time.
You wouldn’t know it in Australia, but BYD has a huge and diverse range of vehicles with lots of different styling approaches in its home market of China.
The cars we get here, though, consisting of this Dolphin hatch, the Atto 3 small SUV, and the upcoming Seal sedan all seem to share more or less the same curvy, futuristic theme.
Contemporary touches on the exterior of the Dolphin include the bar light and full ‘Build Your Dreams’ typeface embedded in the rear, the blocky gloss black alloy wheels (17-inch on the Premium we tested), the two-tone colour scheme, and of course, the grille-free face.
Short overhangs and a tall body seal the EV deal, with the Dolphin looking closest in its aesthetic to something like the Volkswagen ID.3 than anything else on the market. It perhaps won’t be for everyone - it’s a little more experimental than the more conventional look worn by the MG4 - but then, for others this distinctiveness may be a selling point.
The interior look and feel is the biggest surprise. Somehow, the Dolphin, despite being more affordable than its larger Atto 3 sibling, feels a cut above when it comes to its design theme and build quality.
The weirdly organic touches designed to mimic muscle fibres in the Atto 3 have been traded out in favour of something a bit slicker.
I really like the material choices here. The use of neoprene across the lower half of the dash, in the doors, and down the centre of the seats feels a lot less pretentious than the standard synthetic leathers you usually get at this price-point, and there’s an agreeable mix of plastics as well as gloss and matt finishes.
The nods to this car’s name which are present are a bit more toned down and fit with the design in a more subtle way.
The floating door handles, designed to resemble a fin, are a much nicer piece than the weird rotary ones in the Atto 3, and the wavy touches across the top of the dash aren’t too in-your-face and add an element of intrigue. I like it much more than I expected to.
It’s clear this space is designed around the giant multimedia panel, for better or worse. It looks spectacular, it’s nice and sharp, and the software, which looks as though it’s trying to emulate Tesla, does a pretty good job.
It’s quick, sharp, colourful, and has nice large iconography to jab at while you’re on the move, although some of the driving settings are ambiguously labelled and require clicking through to a sub-menu to alter. You’d get used to it, but it isn’t as slick as a Tesla operating system.
It also rotates, because of course it does, although one quirk I found with this is the polarised coating on the screen made it impossible to see when in portrait mode if you were also wearing polarised sunglasses.
Also, Apple CarPlay doesn't work in portrait mode. A gimmick? You decide.
The floating physical rotary controls jutting out below are a also a brilliant little piece of design. On one side you have your gear shifter, and on the other you’ve got your volume control, between them there are core functions, an on/off switch and an auto button for the climate, as well as the hazard light and drive mode controls.
It would be nice to also have a fan speed and temperature toggle, as these functions can only be used through the touchscreen, but there are worse offenders for clumsy climate controls on the market.
Inside, the driver misses out on a digital instrument display but the centrally-located, vertically-mounted 12.3-inch touchscreen multimedia system offers wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto as well as pretty much every control and gauge you could wish for and, as driver, you quickly get used to checking that screen for your current speed etc.
It also offers a way to open the glove box (that sits below the screen) and quick ways to switch off driver-assist aids, such as 'Lane Departure Warning' and the 'Driver Alert System', which could otherwise be a bit annoying. Unfortunately, you have to switch off those systems every time you get back in the car.
The screen is where you’re also able to cycle through drive modes, vehicle settings and the like. The front seats are power-adjustable set-ups and they are heated but not ventilated. There is plenty of durable plastic inside the cabin as well as a denim-like 'tailored wool blend' seat upholstery and soft-touch surfaces.
In terms of space, well, as befitting a compact SUV, there’s not a lot of it for gear or people. The aforementioned glove box is small, there’s no centre console (only sliding cupholders above, and a narrow receptacle below with a wireless charging pad) plus the door pockets are thin and shallow.
And second-row passengers don’t fare too well, either. It’s squeezy back there – even for a Hobbit-sized bloke like me – and there are few amenities.
No fold-down armrest with cupholders, no directional air vents and that panoramic glass roof doesn’t have a sliding cover so those in the front and back cop the full brunt of the summer sun. I can vouch for the ouch too because I had this Cross Country during record-high summer temps in NSW and my gigantic forehead (due to a hairline that keeps creeping rearward) suffered a roasting. That’s about the only circumstance – no sunroof cover and extreme heat – in which it’s okay for someone to wear a hat while driving.
In terms of storage, with both rows in use, there’s a listed 318L of volume in the rear cargo area and 1000L when the second row is stowed away. The rear cargo area has a light and bag hooks and there’s a charging cable and tyre-repair kit in the shallow underfloor storage space.
It’s well worth noting that this vehicle, despite being marketed as an all-wheel drive vehicle with adventure potential, doesn’t have any spare tyre onboard.
At the front of the Cross Country, there is seven litres of cargo volume in what I call the 'Froot' (front boot) rather than the 'Frunk' (front trunk).
The clever design bits don’t end with the controls and themed motifs, either. While the Dolphin’s cabin feels a bit smaller than many of its rivals (because, physically, it is), efforts have been made to make it a versatile space.
There are plenty of little storage areas throughout. There’s the floating one below the touchscreen, which suits wallets and sunglasses. There’s one with a roll-out cover set low below the controls which is good for smaller objects you don’t want moving around the cabin.
A large cubby is located underneath the armrest between the two seats for bigger objects and a slick wireless phone charger cut out from the top.
The two centre bottle holders are a little small, as are the cut-outs in the doors, so if you’re negotiating with an XL takeaway soft drink you might run into trouble.
The dark theme for the interior in our car doesn’t help the more closed-in feel, but the standard panoramic fixed sunroof (mercifully with a rolling shade) helps to keep the space airy.
I found it easy to set up my driving position, another clever touch being the little digital instrument panel perched on the steering column, so no matter how you adjust it you can always see it.
I was a little concerned the rear seat would be tiny, because this car doesn’t look big from the outside, but I was most definitely wrong.
Behind my own seating position, at 182cm tall, I had leagues of knee room and plenty of space for my feet thanks to the flat floor. I also had sufficient but not stellar headroom, and the soft-touch materials continue into the doors and seat trim.
I will say, the abundance of synthetic leather is much more evident for rear passengers, but it feels like a minor complaint.
Again, the bottle holders in the doors are tiny, but at least the ones in the drop-down armrest are generous. The middle seat is very useful thanks to the flat floor, although there are no adjustable air vents for rear passengers.
The backs of the front seats have a variety of pockets in different shapes and sizes, and there are USB-C and USB-A ports on the back of the centre console, alongside a bizarre centre bottle holder which is on an angle.
Boot space is 345 litres if you move the false floor to its lowest position. I was just able to squeeze in the three-piece CarsGuide luggage set with a bit of fiddling around.
With the second row down, room expands to 1310L, and you can bring the false floor up in the boot to make the load area flat.
The space underneath is quite good for storing charging cables and such, but keep in mind the Dolphin doesn’t offer additional frunk storage.
What it does offer is a vehicle-to-load adapter, which lets you power household appliances via its external charging port. Neat, and rare at this end of the EV market.
The Volvo EX30 Cross Country is top-of-the-range in the three-variant EX30 range and it has a manufacturer suggested list price of $69,990. It’s the best variant in the range if you’re keen to travel beyond the bitumen. For reference, at time of writing, the 2026 Volvo EX30 Single motor Extended range Plus is $59,990, before on-road costs, and the Extended Range Ultra is $66,290, excluding on-roads.
Standard features include a 12.3-inch touchscreen multimedia system (with wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, and over-the-air software updates), wireless charging, AWD, three driving modes, a Harman Kardon stereo with front sound-bar, a 360-degree camera view, semi-autonomous parking assist and 19-inch alloy wheels.
It also has LED headlights and tail-lights, a digital key (Bluetooth phone unlocking), heated steering wheel, power tailgate and a fixed panoramic glass roof (but no sliding cover).
In terms of off-road-specific features it has a 'Performance' drive mode (which optimises all-wheel drive), 'Hill Descent Control' and front and rear skid plates.
Exterior paint options include 'Cloud Blue', 'Crystal White', 'Onyx Black', 'Vapour Grey' and 'Sand Dune'.
For reference, vehicles that you might consider rivals in the same realm as the Cross Country – such as the Kia EV3 (about $63,950 MSRP for a top-spec GT-Line), Zeekr X (about $64,900 MSRP for the top-of-the-range all-wheel drive variant), and Skoda Enyaq (about $65,990 MSRP for the 85 Sportline) – are a few grand cheaper while packing as much, if not more, features onboard and managing to look and feel more premium than the Volvo. The Cross Country's price is creeping up for a vehicle that is quite spartan inside. More about that soon.
Yep. This is the new cheapest electric car you can buy in Australia. This title is a frequently moving target, but again, at the time of writing, the entry-level Dolphin variant, at $38,890, before on-road costs and state-based incentives, undercut the MG4 by just $100, and the GWM Ora by $1100.
Importantly, its starting price is now in the realm of relevant combustion rivals. For similar money, you can hop into a high-spec Corolla (ZR Hybrid $39,100) for example, so this is the first time electric cars have become so affordable for the average consumer.
There are two Dolphin variants for now. The entry-level Dynamic, and the top-spec Premium. Both share more or less the same standard equipment levels, although they are differentiated by having different battery sizes and electric motor outputs.
You can’t talk electric car value without talking range, but thankfully, despite its low price, the Dolphin delivers on this front.
The base car scores a 44.9kWh battery, granting it a 340km WLTP-certified driving range, while the top-spec Premium ups this to a 60.5kWh unit, delivering a more substantial 427km range.
The entry battery is more than enough for city commuters, while the larger battery is enough to suit intercity freeway drives.
There are also plenty of longer-range EVs on the market, the Polestar 2 and Tesla Model 3 being chief among them, but for a vehicle at this price and in this market segment, the Dolphin is a huge improvement on some mainstream offerings, like the Mazda MX-30 and Nissan Leaf which can’t offer the same price-to-value ratio.
A lot of BYD’s ability to provide such an appealing price and driving range is down to its battery technology.
Unlike other automakers which need to buy batteries from suppliers, BYD designs and builds its own batteries, using an LFP chemistry which is cheaper and uses fewer scarce materials while offering economies of scale as well as the exact right size and form factor for its vehicles.
If this leaves you thinking the Dolphin must be sub-par when it comes to standard inclusions, you can think again, because this car also delivers with 16-inch alloys, LED headlights and tail-lights, a massive 12.8-inch multimedia touchscreen with built-in nav as well as Apple CarPlay and Android Auto connectivity, a wireless phone charger, electrical adjust and heating for the front seats, keyless entry with push-start ignition, climate control, and a comprehensive suite of active safety items.
Not bad at all, and the interior blend of neoprene and synthetic leather feels a bit nicer than the base MG4's cabin, for example.
The Dolphin might be as cheap as it gets when it comes to an electric car, but the value on offer here speaks for itself.
The EX30 Cross Country has a twin-motor electric set-up, producing a combined 315kW and 543Nm. It has a single-speed transmission and a 69kWh battery.
Drive modes include 'Standard', 'Performance' (taps into all-wheel drive and is the preferred mode for light off-roading) and 'Range' (defaults to rear-wheel drive to get most out of battery).
It does not have any off-road driving modes (like Sand, Mud or Snow) but it does have 'Hill Descent Control'.
Claimed 0-100km/h time is just 3.7 seconds.
There’s the choice of two powertrains for the Dolphin. Both are single-motor front-wheel drive set-ups.
The base Dynamic can make use of 70kW/180Nm which sounds underpowered to me, but the car we tested for this launch review was the Premium which offers a much healthier 150kW/310Nm.
As well as the increase to battery capacity the Premium upgrades the suspension to a rear multi-link set-up.
While the base car seems like such a value buy, the increase in power, ride quality, and range seems to justify stretching to the Premium if your budget allows.
Official combined cycle (urban/extra-urban) energy consumption is listed as 19.1kWh/100km. On this test, I recorded 18.4kWh/100km, which is impressive, especially considering I took this Volvo on some tracks that pushed the limit of its capabilities.
For reference, the 2026 Subaru Solterra AWD Touring has claimed energy use of 16.0kWh/100km, but I've yet to test it to gauge its real-world energy consumption, under pressure in tough (for an AWD) conditions.
The EX30 Cross Country has a 69kWh battery and according to Volvo can be charged from 10 to 80 per cent in as little as 30 minutes on a fast 175kW DC charger.
It took me about 18 hours to get it from 20 to 80 per cent on a household socket (16 amp/3.6kW).
It has a listed driving range of 417km (WLTP) on a full charge. Official driving range is “up to 417km (WLTP)”.
As previously mentioned, each variant also gets its own battery capacity. The entry-level Dynamic offers a 44.9kWh battery and 340km of driving range, while the top-spec car offers a 60.5kWh unit with a driving range of 427km.
Charging on a fast DC unit maxes out on 60kW for the Dynamic or 80kW for the Premium.
This sounds slow, with many rivals offering in excess of 100kW charging at a minimum, but because the Dolphin’s battery sizes are so trim, it still means an 80 per cent charge will arrive in a little over half an hour.
On the slower AC charging standard, the max speed is a disappointing 7.0kW. For a fully electric car, we prefer to see at least 11kW as it makes it worthwhile to plug-in to an AC unit at a shopping centre to add roughly 70 - 100km of range an hour.
Because the Dophin is also quite efficient, though, you can still expect about 50km an hour to be added on this charging standard.
Official energy consumption for the Premium as-tested is 14.2kWh/100km, and we saw an impressive 14.1kWh/100km on our brief test program, making it one of the more efficient EVs I’ve ever driven.
This compact, all electric SUV has a ton of power and torque from the get-go. It’s impressive on almost all surfaces and it really is fast.
It has listed kerb weight of 1910kg and a turning circle of 11m, and this is a highly manoeuvrable vehicle.
The driving position is at best low and sporty, and there’s adequate visibility, even though it is pinched in places, especially looking back towards the rear of the vehicle.
This is a smooth and refined compact SUV that's nice to drive on- and off-road.
The Cross Country punches well above its weight in terms of power and torque and throttle response is great. It even errs on the side of too energetic, but steering is precise, the transmission is slick and the brakes have plenty of bite.
You’re able to change driving characteristics on the main screen by cycling through the drive modes (Standard, Range and Performance). Performance is a key mode when you hit the dirt because that fully engages and optimises the all-wheel drive system to give you that sure-footedness on looser surfaces.
Range is aimed at optimising the vehicle’s energy efficiency and Standard is not too bad for general day-to-day driving conditions.
When you do get off road, it handles minor corrugations well. It also deals with deeper, more severe potholes reasonably well. It’s pleasantly surprising that it stays so settled and composed while you're going through some lumpy and bumpy stuff.
The Cross Country is not an off-road animal as such, it can handle things when the road surface becomes more traction-compromised than you may normally face. But with limited ground clearance (even if it’s 19mm higher off the ground than the regular EX30 for a total of 190mm) the Cross Country is not a rock-crawling beast.
It doesn't have any off-road driving modes, however it does have hill descent control. But that's really for mild inclines and downhills where it has to hold a safer speed than it may otherwise achieve.
In terms of dimensions, it's not that well set up for off-roading. You don't want to take this anywhere near four-wheel drive only terrain. But having said that, it is more than capable of handling light to moderate off-road conditions – mild corrugations, some deeper potholes here and there, loose gravel, loose stones, those sorts of things.
In fact, there's no reason why you can't drive this vehicle on well-maintained tracks in dry conditions to your favourite campsite in a national park, even if it's a bit slippery.
The suspension set-up – Macpherson strut front, multi-link rear – is well suited to on-road driving. And while the Cross Country tends to feel a bit firm in places, it remains composed and settled when things become lumpier and bumpier, say, for instance on dirt tracks and gravel roads.
Its raised suspension (compared to the regular EX30) is on the firm side of things and it become a little jittery when the road becomes more corrugated and less well-maintained. But otherwise it is mostly well settled, well composed and ride and handling is nicely controlled.
This Volvo’s towing capacity is 1600kg.
Its all-season tyres – Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance SUV (235/50R19) – are on 19 inch rims and that’s not a package well suited to off-roading of any kind, really. There’s always the option of swapping them for some all terrain tyres on an 18-inch rim and that combination would instantly make this Cross Country even better for mild to moderate off-roading.
The Dolphin is immediately impressive. From the get-go I was greeted with a feeling of quality from the car in ways I didn’t expect. The steering feels nicely balanced and not too artificial like it can be on some EVs, while the interior is refreshingly ergonomic.
The ride might be the Dolphin’s most impressive trait, with a feeling of balance across both axles, and a spritely feel to the whole car.
It is trim for an EV, with a kerb weight of 1658kg, which no doubt helps the steering feel, and the efficiency.
As it is, I didn’t experience the kind of crashing and wallowing many EVs suffer from on larger bumps, and smaller bumps seemed to be filtered out with ease.
It even feels nicely balanced in the corners, pairing nicely with the great steering feel which is not something we’ve come to expect from Chinese cars.
The motor is also willing, with software tuning keeping power delivery on the right side of overwhelming, although the warm-hatch equivalent's seven second 0-100km/h sprint time is a hint at what it’s capable of.
Unfortunately, it is let down by a pretty sub-standard factory tyre package. The LingLong Comfort Masters are designed for the Dolphin, complete with little Dolphin markings on them, but are hardly inspiring for traction when you plant the accelerator or tip it into a corner with enthusiasm.
They are better than the pretty much no-name Atlas Batman A51 tyres which came on the Atto 3, but even MG has wised up to putting tyres from renowned manufacturers on its Australian-delivered cars.
The Dolphin is also easy to park, thanks to its excellent surround camera suite and tight footprint, but visibility out of the tiny rear window is limited and made worse by the huge headrests for the outboard back seats.
In terms of electric driving characteristics the Dolphin offers two levels of regen braking, one which is virtually non-existent, and another mild tune.
Surprisingly, there’s no single-pedal mode, and the Dolphin leans on blended braking more than some of its rivals. It feels a lot more traditional to drive in this sense, so may be well suited to someone hopping out of a combustion car.
The drive modes are quite dramatic, with 'Eco' mode limiting motor torque and even switching off the climate control, while 'Sport' will make bouts of wheelspin a bit too easy by upping the response time from the motor. I found it best to stick to the nicely-balanced 'Normal' setting.
Tl;dr? The Dolphin is impressive. It’s responsive, relatively light, and has a sense of quality to it through its great ride and decent handling. Not bad for the cheapest EV in Australia.
The Volvo EX30 Cross Country has the maximum five-star ANCAP rating from testing in 2024.
It scored 35.27 out of 40 (88%) for Adult Occupant Protection, 42.03 out of 49 (85%) for Child Occupant Protection, 50.36 out of 63 (79%) for Vulnerable Road User Protection, and 14.48 out of 18 (80%) for Safety Assist (includes AEB, driver monitoring and lane support system).
As standard, it has seven airbags and a comprehensive suite of driver-assist tech including AEB (with pedestrian, vehicle, large animal and cyclist detection), 'Lane Departure Warning' (intrusive in operation, but easy to switch off), a 'Driver Alert System' (also over-reactive but easy to switch off), adaptive cruise control, hill descent control, a 360 degree camera view (with a 3D view) and a tyre pressure monitoring system.
As mentioned, it’s missing any real off-road driving modes but then again, the Cross Country isn’t built to tackle anything too rough and tumble.
There is a ISOFIX child seat attachment on each outer seat in the second row and top-tether anchor points on all second-row seatbacks.
The Dolphin was recently awarded a maximum five-star ANCAP safety rating and is equipped with seven airbags and a robust list of active safety gear.
There’s auto emergency braking, lane keep assist, blind-spot monitoring, driver attention alert, rear cross-traffic alert, front cross-traffic alert, traffic sign recognition, and adaptive cruise control.
It’s one thing to have great active safety items, it’s quite another to calibrate them well so they don’t interfere with the driving experience.
The Dolphin does okay on this front. I found the lane keep system could occasionally be alarmingly heavy-handed, although it activates less than the very annoying system on my Haval Jolion long-termer.
The pre-collision alert also triggered several times due to parked cars on the side of the road, but turning down the sensitivity seemed to solve this problem.
Also included is an excellent 360-degree camera suite, ISOFIX points on the rear outboard seats, a ‘child presence detection’ system, which apparently sounds a warning if you leave a child in the back seat, and turns the air conditioning on if you ignore it, and there's even a tyre pressure monitoring system to top it off.
The Volvo EX30 Cross Country is covered by a five-year/unlimited km warranty (with roadside assistance included) and an eight-year/160,000km warranty applies to the battery set-up.
A five-year/150,000km servicing plan applies and is free – and that is well worth noting here. While free/complimentary servicing is not unheard of in the EV space – it's offered with Audi e-tron, Polestar 4 (Long Range AWD), Genesis (GV70), BYD (Sealion 7) and more – the fact Volvo offers it on a variant that may spend at least some time on unsealed roads is commendable.
Servicing appointments are set for every 24 months/30,000km, whichever occurs soonest.
Volvo Group Australia has more than 40 dealerships as well as numerous Volvo-approved workshops across the country.
The Dolphin is covered by a six-year or 150,000km warranty, which beats a lot of mainstream rivals for its duration, but not its distance.
In the EV segment it plays in, though, things are a bit tougher, as its primary Chinese rivals, GWM and MG, are offering seven year and unlimited kilometre warranty promises.
Service pricing is available all the way out to 96 months or 160,000km, averaging $299 per year for the duration, which is pretty good.
Many rivals are offering free servicing for several years, and there are also many electric cars which only need to see a shop once every 24 months or 20,000km, compared to the Dolphin’s more traditional 12 month intervals.