Kgm Torres vs Jaecoo J8

What's the difference?

The KGM Torres Hybrid represents yet another choice for buyers in the family SUV segment, as if there aren’t already enough! But the Torres offers a level of value its mainstream competitors can’t match. The hybrid powertrain is a winner, however KGM needs to iron out a few issues, like tyre choice and the advanced driver assist tech. But there is a lot to like about the Torres Hybrid. And it’s definitely the pick over the pure petrol version.

It is hard to argue with the sheer amount of stuff you get in the J8 for the price. And that long warranty and capped price servicing program remove the stress of buying into a new brand.

The J8 might be more car than most people need due to its size and lack of third row seating.

It’s okay to drive but isn’t class leading and no hybrid option will count it out for the ever increasing number of Aussies looking to petrol-electric power.

The J8 is a solid machine and well worth a look if you are after glitz and glamour on a budget.

Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with meals provided.

What a curious thing the KGM Torres is. It has typical medium SUV proportions but with over-the-top styling designed to give the impression of a rugged off-roader. But this is no off-roader.

It has a Jeep-like slotted grille, faux winch hook in the lower grille, squared-off wheel arches, a boxy shape and weird grab mounts on the bonnet that serve no discernible purpose.

It also has what appears to be a rear-mounted spare wheel with a side-opening tailgate. But it’s all an illusion. It’s just a chunky addition to the tailgate which opens upwards, like a regular SUV boot.

If you discount the fake 4x4 bits, the Torres is quite a handsome SUV, especially from the front. The grille surrounded by cool integrated LED headlights makes for a nice front end. 

The tail-lights sit a little low at the rear, and the pointlessly massive C-pillar is a bit much. But there are some appealing elements.

Inside, there’s a bit of a nod to fellow Korean brands Hyundai and Kia with the dual 12.3-inch multimedia and driver display screens. 

There are no buttons to be found on the console and centre stack so it’s a clean look. The screens and air vents are angled towards the driver, too.

Bronze is a feature throughout and it breaks up the dash nicely, as does the ambient lighting. Matching stitching is a lovely visual touch on the nicely patterned cloth seats.

It doesn’t look or feel like a base model. It definitely feels a step up from the Korando and the Musso in KGM’s stable, as well as some rivals.

The J8 looks familiar but it's hard to remember where you’ve seen it before. There are shades of Mazda, Mercedes-Benz and Range Rover scattered throughout.

The J8 looks more native Jaecoo than the smaller J7, but either way it's a handsome machine in the metal.

Its large, prominent front grille with thick vertical slats gives it presence on the road. This is paired with a big JAECOO badge on the grille and dynamic LED headlights and DRLs.

It has a sleek side profile and does away with gaudy panel creases and sharp edges, which helps project its premium persona. This design is highlighted by its hidden door handles, well integrated roof rails and rear spoiler.

There is a rear light bar, which is the current must have styling item, and connects the tail-lights

Inside is where the action is.

It looks proper luxe, with soft touch and textured inserts all over. We spent the majority of our time in the Ridge AWD and on top of the dash is a type of soft synthetic suede and there are wood veneer-type inserts that give it a touch of class as well as some piano black highlights and plenty of premium feeling materials.

Even in the back seat, where some brands can cut costs, the J8 has a quality feel to it.

It is an impressive space for circa-$50,000.

The KGM Torres Hybrid sits at the smaller end of the medium SUV set, but it still offers decent levels of space throughout, especially when it comes to headroom.

Storage is something KGM gets right with the Torres. The centre console has an armrest with large under-lid storage. There are a couple of good sized cupholders and a small slot for the phone to sit in, however it’s not super deep so it’s better for keys.

Further under the console is a large tray and two USB-C ports, plus another smaller shelf just above. There’s heaps of space in the doors for two bottles, plus additional space. And the glove box can hold the vehicle manual.

When it comes to in-car tech it’s a bit of a mixed bag. The multimedia screen takes way too long to boot up, especially when it’s hot. Which is not great because you need the screen to crank the air-con as most vehicle functions are housed in the screen. That display delay also frustrates if you want to reverse immediately after turning the car on, meaning sometimes there’s no camera display for a few seconds. It’s just not good enough by today’s standards.

The system is fine in terms of navigation and menus but not super intuitive. Swipe down for drive modes ('Comfort', 'Sport' and 'Eco'), plus some quick access options. You can always swipe down even when Apple CarPlay is active.

You can also hit the fan from left of screen to open the air con settings.

As mentioned, there’s no digital radio and no wireless Apple CarPlay. Also no wireless charger in the K30. Having to use a cord can be a pain but at least it means flawless CarPlay connection and a properly charged phone - something most charging pads fail to achieve.

The digital Instrument cluster is clear enough, but there is no head-up display.

Steering wheel controls are clearly labeled on the lovely looking thin-rimmed, four-spoke wheel.

In the back seat you’ll find ample leg, knee and toe room. There’s plenty of space behind my 183cm driving position. The rear bench is flat so there’s not as much side support as the lovely front seats.

That rear space has quite a high window line so small kids may struggle to see out.

Amenities back there include two map pockets, rear knee-level air vents, two USB-C ports, ISOFIX anchors on the two outboard seats, three top tether points and enough room in the doors for one big and one small bottle.

You get 465 litres of space (to the top of the seat back) with all seats in place. It is ample space for luggage or a big shopping haul. Drop the 60/40 split-fold rear seats and the front seats and that grows to 1526L.

You’ll find a 12-volt outlet in the boot as well as nooks on the side, a light and a cargo blind. What you won’t find, disappointingly, is a spare wheel of any kind. Just a tyre repair kit. This puts KGM behind the pace of brands like Toyota and Hyundai that at least offer a temporary spare wheel for their hybrid models.

Another quirk is adjusting to the tailgate opening upwards, not sideways as the rear 'handle' suggests.

Having only five seats in a car this big feels like a waste of space, and in reality it is. You’re now driving a very big and bulky car without the people carrying pros.

Very rarely will you need to use the giant 738-litre boot, but the ability to carry children’s friends or extended family is probably a more useful and regular scenario.

Up front there are plenty of storage options with lots of nooks and crannies in the centre console, including a sizeable and deep bin and good size pockets on the doors. Cupholders for both rows are a plus, too.

USB charging points for both rows are great. If you like to connect to Apple CarPlay via a cord and not wirelessly the port is down near the front seat passengers right foot, which is hard to access.

Additionally the wireless device charger is on the passenger side of the console. Both are hallmarks of a car originally designed to be driven on the other side of the road.

The back seat is huge, there is ample leg, shoulder and head room and it can easily accommodate adults or large teenagers.

The J8 comes in two grades: the two-wheel drive Track variant and the all-wheel drive Ridge. The variant names are tied into the brand’s adventurous image.

The Track is priced at a national $49,990 drive-away, which is about $5000 and $8000 cheaper respectively than the base Kia Sorento or Hyundai Santa Fe.

Jaecoo has thrown everything at the J8, except a third row of seats.

The Track grade has 20-inch alloy wheels, heated and ventilated front seats wrapped in real leather and topped off with a massage function.

There are dual 12.3-inch displays, one for the multimedia and the other for the driver. Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, sat nav and a 12-speaker Sony stereo are other highlights.

There are some clever functions too. When on a phone call it projects sound only through the two headrest speakers giving more privacy.

Three different scents can be diffused through the cabin, which might help override the drive-through food or old sports bag aroma in the boot.

It also has a panoramic sunroof, dual-zone climate control, power adjustable steering wheel, a head-up display (that projects vital information such as your travelling speed on to the windscreen in front of the driver) and a wireless device charger.

There isn’t much room left on the $54,990 drive-away Ridge AWD’s equipment sheet, but it manages to squeeze in a suede headliner, heated and ventilated rear window seats, privacy glass and electric door handles.

The Ridge also adds all-wheel drive grip with multiple drive modes such as 'Sport', 'Eco' and 'Normal' as well as 'Mud', 'Snow', 'Sand' and 'Off-Road' to best handle different conditions.

A more advanced active suspension system adjusts each wheel independently according to driving conditions to smooth out the ride.

In a win for buyers, both variants have a full size spare tyre hidden under the boot floor.

Powering the KGM Torres Hybrid is a 110kW/220Nm 1.5-litre, four-cylinder turbo-petrol engine paired with a permanent magnet synchronous motor delivering 130kW/300Nm, for a combined power output of 150kW. KGM does not provide an overall torque figure but clearly pulling power is healthy.

It also has a 1.8kWh lithium iron phosphate battery as part of its hybrid set-up. As mentioned. this is not a plug-in.

That’s a little less than the Hyundai Tucson (172kW) and GWM Haval H6 (179kW) hybrids, but more than the Honda CR-V (135kW).

It uses a ‘dedicated hybrid transmission’ and drives the front wheels only.

Power comes from a 2.0-litre, four-cylinder, turbo-petrol engine that makes 183kW and 385Nm, which is matched to an eight-speed automatic driving either the front or all four wheels.

That’s a decent amount of grunt and is on par with a Volkswagen Golf GTI, but the J8 weights about 1800kg in 2WD guise with AWD adding 100kg.

Those numbers are also short of the 206kW/422Nm delivered by the Santa Fe’s turbo-petrol motor but are better than the 200kW and 333Nm made by the Sorento’s non-turbo V6.

The lack of a hybrid option at launch, which is popular in rival machines, could prove to be a misstep.

Jaecoo said a plug-in hybrid version was under consideration, but is likely to come at a decent premium.

KGM says the Torres Hybrid consumes 5.6 litres per 100 kilometres on the combined (urban/extra-urban) cycle. After a week of mixed urban and freeway driving I recorded a figure of 7.0L/100km. Not bad, but it could be better.

The Torres’s Euro 6 powerplant uses 95 RON premium fuel and taking into account the 50-litre fuel tank, you could theoretically get a total driving range of about 890km.

Jaecoo claims on the combined (urban/extra-urban) cycle the J8 Track 2WD will drink 8.3L/100km and the Ridge AWD will gulp 8.6L/100km, which is better than its similar sized rivals. But those rivals also have hybrid options that are more powerful and drink less fuel.

It also requires premium unleaded fuel, while the others drink the cheaper stuff.

A 65-litre fuel tank gives it a theoretical driving range of 755km in its thirstiest guise.

We didn’t get to spend enough time behind the wheel to do a thorough real-world test, and the majority of our drive was spent on high-speed arterial roads or motorways where petrol cars are at their most efficient. So we’ll reserve judgement until we undertake a more comprehensive test drive.

While this might be CarsGuide’s first time behind the wheel of the KGM Torres Hybrid, we have driven the petrol version. Andrew Chesterton lived with one for three months. You can read his take on it here.

As predicted by Chesto, the hybrid powertrain does sort out some of the issues with the pure petrol version. Regular acceleration is smooth and lacks any of the jerkiness experienced in the pure-combustion model, thanks in part to the hybrid transmission.

There is, however, tyre squeal when you give it a boot full. That could be fixed with better tyres than the 225/60R18 Nexen Roadian GTX rubber on the hybrid grades. There was also axle tramp when I tested the Torres under hard acceleration.

The transition between petrol and electric power is seamless. Only when pushed hard up a hill does the petrol engine sound a little rough.

Of the three drive modes - Comfort, Eco and Sport - the latter only adds mild spice. Best stick with Comfort.

The Torres Hybrid’s brakes are strong and lack the spongeyness of some hybrids. It has regenerative braking which just feels weird in a hybrid. I kept it at a lower setting as a result.

It steers nicely, offering a good amount of feel and it’s sharp without overdoing it.

I noticed some light vibration through the steering wheel on coarse chip and uneven roads. But the cabin is well insulated and relatively quiet. A particularly windy Melbourne spring day was the only thing that unsettled the peace in the cabin.

Suspension is MacPherson strut up front and multi-link at the rear and in terms of handling, there’s subtle lean in corners but it feels pretty hunkered down for a family SUV. More so than a number of its rivals.

The Torres Hybrid’s ride quality is variable, depending on the road quality. On some average roads, it handles better than others. You’ll definitely notice sizeable ruts, but there’s little to complain about in urban settings.

In terms of visibility, the C-pillar is way too big. I get that it’s a design element but that, combined with the tiny rear third-quarter windows, make a head check all but useless.

There is a clear line of demarcation between the Chery brand and Jaecoo, and the J8 drives substantially better than Chery’s line of budget-friendly Tiggo SUVs.

We spent most of our time in the Ridge AWD and the fancy active suspension makes a huge impact. It keeps the vehicle in check through corners, exerting excellent body control. It's a bit unnerving how flat the car sits through the bends with next to no body roll.

Despite riding on giant 20-inch wheels the J8 soaks up bumps and road imperfections with ease.

The Track 2WD falls off noticeably in this regard without the active damping.

The steering is light and a bit floaty, which saps confidence when entering corners as there isn’t a lot of feedback on what is happening underneath you.

The steering ratio seems a bit wide of the mark, the wheel needing more input than we'd like.

The engine delivers decent grunt and it's tuned for leisurely acceleration rather than performance. 

There was the odd occasion when the transmission and the motor weren't quite in sync and you might get a bit of hesitation and then too much oomph all at once.

It has no problems getting up to speed on the motorway and handles overtaking with ease. 

Jaecoo, and its parent company Chery, have worked hard on the safety tech calibration and it's much less intrusive on the J8 than some earlier models. This applies especially to the lane keep assist, which only steps in when needed. There are far fewer bings and bongs than before.

You sit up nice and high in the J8, which gives you a good view of the road ahead, but the sloped rear window restricts vision out the back compared to boxier shaped SUVs.

It is a big rig and you feel that on the road, even the Jaecoo team said you’d notice the width of the J8 on the road, which might be an issue if you live in compact inner city areas or deal with cramped car spaces.

The J8 hasn’t been tested by ANCAP yet, but it is expected to get the same five-star score as the J7.

One thing that jumps out is the AWD version gets two more airbags than the 2WD variant.

The Ridge AWD adds two side airbags to the rear row, while the Track 2WD makes do with curtain airbag protection only in the back seat.

It covers all the bases for active safety with auto emergency braking, lane keep assist, lane departure warning, rear cross-traffic alert with auto braking, blind-spot detection, speed recognition, active cruise control and door opening alert.

KGM covers the Torres with its seven-year, unlimited kilometre warranty and the high-voltage battery is backed by seven-year, 150,000km cover.

Servicing is recommended every 12 months or 10,000km, whichever occurs first. The category standard is every 15,000km. KGM's service pricing is available for the first seven years with prices ranging from $349 to $454. Over that seven years it should cost $2758, which is not bad.

KGM’s dealer network consists of 65 sales and service outlets across the country, with a number in regional and rural Australia.

Jaecoo backs its cars for eight years and unlimited km, which is one of the most comprehensive in the business. MG, Mitsubishi and Nissan all have 10 year warranties but are not unlimited km and Mitsubishi and Nissan need you to only service at their dealerships.

Jaecoo backs this up with an eight-year capped priced servicing program, which costs $2952 for the Track 2WD and $3452 for the Ridge AWD. That’s slightly on the expensive side but better than being at the whim of the mechanic after five years.

Keep in mind the fourth and eight year services are biggies, costing $699 and $799 in the Ridge AWD and $499 and $599 in the Track 2WD.

You also get eight years of roadside assistance if you service your car at the dealership.