Cupra Formentor vs Audi RS Q8

What's the difference?

It’s clear that Cupra has listened to feedback as this updated Formentor addresses many key criticisms of the pre-update car. Overall it makes it easier to live with and to recommend than before.

Although the VZe's updated PHEV powertrain offers double the amount of electric range, the V forms as a sweet spot of the line-up as it offers all the power and equipment you'd ever need. It's hard to look past the top-spec VZx though as power is a drug.

Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with travel, accommodation and meals provided.

The Audi RS Q8 Performance is a lot - of everything. It offers lots of power, lots of performance, lots of space and lots of luxury. But it’s also a lot of money, and at more than $250k it’s not going to be on everyone’s shopping list. It’s a very niche proposition for a small group of buyers. For those select few, those who want a lot of everything and who crave the ultimate of whatever product they’re buying, then the RS Q8 Performance is going to be a very tempting proposition - even if they never set any lap record in it.

Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with travel, accommodation and meals provided.

As with many updates, the Formentor has received some mild changes to the exterior design. A lot of it centres around the new, shark-like front end which brings it in line with the Leon, Terramar and Tavascan.

I’ve always been a fan of the Formentor’s slightly raised but still hunkered-down hot hatch-look. The body lines and wheel-arch flares also lean into the dynamic aesthetic.

The VZx trim looks particularly sexy with its 19-inch black and copper forged alloy wheels and the black quad exhaust tips.

I cannot wait for the VZ5 to arrive as it’s set to receive even larger 20-inch alloy wheels and more prominent quad exhaust tips that are stacked and finished in copper.

Inside it’s fairly similar to before but a highlight is the larger 12.9-inch touchscreen multimedia system. It suits the dashboard nicely while not looking too big.

There are still the pronounced, hexagonal air vents up front, plus the ambient lighting strip that wraps all the way from door to door. It’s a cool look.

If you’re keen on the ultra-sporty look, you can option Sabelt front bucket seats with carbon-fibre backs as part of the Extreme package in the VZe and VZx. It’s worth noting that this removes the front centre airbag though.

We don’t refer to ‘facelifted’ cars for no reason, the RS Q8 Performance has a number of visual changes.

These include a new Audi ‘singleframe grille’ and new front bumper design, with a new Matt Carbon trim package available to highlight that.

There’s also a new rear bumper design as well as new digital daytime running lights at the front and digital OLED lights at the rear.

The unique forged alloy wheels are another design change, but also bring a functional element. Measuring 23 inches they do a good job of filling out the wheel arches and give the RS Q8 Performance a purposeful stance and good proportions. But they are also 5kg lighter per wheel than the 22-inch rims on the RS Q8, saving unsprung weight to help the ride and handling.

Inside, Audi hasn’t made any dramatic changes to the design, which is fine because the brand does some of the best cabins on the market in terms of look and feel.

What is new is an aluminium inlay and an optional RS interior design package which provides a unique finish to the seats, with contrasting stitching, for an additional $4100.

The standard seats in the Formentor have a sporty design but are still supportive and comfortable. The driver’s seat offers electric adjustment and memory as standard, while both front seats are heated.

The optional Sabelt front bucket seats hug you tighter which is nice if you plan to driving on twisting roads. It’s cool that they retain the electric adjustment and heating as this is rare in ultra-sporty seats.

Looking ahead, this steering wheel is one of my favourites on offer from any brand currently. The rim isn’t too thick or thin, plus there are plenty of physical buttons and dials. It makes it a joy to interact with.

This update has made the steering wheel-mounted engine start-stop and drive mode buttons standard across the line-up. It makes the less sporty trims feel a touch more special.

The 10.25-inch digital instrument cluster is still standard across the line-up and offers plenty of configurable options. You can set it up exactly how you'd like.

Moving across, there’s the aforementioned 12.9-inch touchscreen multimedia system. It operates on updated software which makes navigating key menus much easier.

Some key climate control functions remain at the bottom of the touchscreen which is a little easier to interact with on the move. Ideally a physical button cluster would be better but you can’t have everything.

Another key change with this update is the touch sliders under the touchscreen are finally illuminated, allowing you to see what you’re pressing at night. This should have been standard since launch.

Storage up front is adequate for a car of this size. There’s a wireless charger that’s not ventilated, two USB-C ports, a strange cupholder set-up with essentially 1.5 cupholders, a centre console box with a lid that ratchets, as well as a glovebox on the passenger side.

It’s clear the focus of the Formentor’s cabin is up front but space in the second row is a better than you’d think. At a leggy 182cm I have decent leg and headroom behind my own driving position, but toeroom is particularly good, allowing you to slide your feet comfortably under the seat ahead.

What isn’t so nice is the front seats are rather bulky, particularly the optional Sabelt bucket seats. They block your view ahead, requiring you to either lean over or look out the side window.

Second-row amenities include a third zone of climate control with air vents on the back of the centre console, as well as two USB-C ports and a fold-down armrest with cupholders.

There are ISOFIX points on the two outboard seats, as well as top-tether child seat anchorages across all three rear seats.

All versions of the Formentor now receive a hands-free power tailgate which is handy if you’ve got your hands full. It opens and closes with a kick under the rear bumper.

Boot space depends on the trim level. The S offers 450L, the V and VZx have 420L and the VZe only offers 345L with the rear seats upright. The latter is poor due to the placement of the high-voltage battery.

With the rear seats folded there’s between 1300-1400L of boot space, depending on the trim level.

Boot-related amenities include a light and some hooks. It’s great to see a space-saver spare wheel as standard across all variants besides the VZe. This is once again due to the high-voltage battery.

You even retain a space-saver spare wheel if you opt for the Extreme package in the VZx, though it has a note stating you cannot put it on the front as it physically won’t fit over the larger front brakes.

If you get a puncture on the front, you need to swap a wheel from the rear onto the front, then put the space-saver spare on the rear. You should technically be doing this anyway as space-saver spare wheels aren’t meant to go on the front in cars that are primarily front-wheel drive, like the Formentor.

While it’s easy to get swept up in the power and speed of the RS Q8 Performance, it’s important to remember that it’s an SUV and it needs to offer ‘utility’ as well as ‘sports’. 

With that in mind, the front seat occupants are well looked after with supportive and comfortable sports seats, with a good amount of small item storage spaces. 

The rear seats are surprisingly comfortable, despite the sloping roofline of this ‘coupe-style’ SUV. Audi has cut recesses into the ceiling to create more headroom, so it will be fine for anyone under six-foot tall. Despite there being five seat belts, this is realistically more of a four-seater for adults, although three smaller kids could squeeze across the back.

There’s also a pair of cupholders, two USB-C ports, a 12-volt outlet and your own climate controls for the rear passengers.

As for the boot, again it loses some volume because it’s not a wagon-style SUV, but there’s still a decent, square floor space with a claimed 605 litres of capacity.

So, overall the Q8 obviously isn’t the most practical version of an SUV, but it does well given its focus on style.

Audi updated the Q8 range earlier this year, with refreshed looks after seven years on sale and a plug-in hybrid powertrain to cater for new demand.

A new RS Q8 is coming later in the year, but the RS Q8 Performance has arrived first to make a bigger impact. It naturally gets a performance boost, but there are some other extras beyond more kilowatts.

These include RS ceramic brakes, lightweight 23-inch forged alloy wheels, Pirelli P-Zero tyres, unique aluminium inlays and a special RS layout for the digital instrument display.

Which is good, because the RS Q8 Performance costs nearly $25k more than the ‘standard’ RS Q8, priced from $255,800 plus on-road costs.

Luckily for a car costing a quarter of a million bucks, there’s also plenty of luxuries too, including Nappa leather upholstery, four-zone climate control and a 17-speaker 730-watt Bang & Olufsen sound system, amongst others.

When you compare it to its rivals on performance terms, in particular the Urus and Cayenne Turbo, the $250k asking price doesn’t exactly look ‘cheap’ but it is good value in comparison.

The Audi is a touch pricier than the BMW X6 M Performance at $250,900, but quite a bit more affordable than the Mercedes-AMG GLE63 S Coupe at $268,900.

At launch all versions of the updated Formentor feature turbocharged four-cylinder petrol engines of varying sizes and power outputs, as well as dual-clutch automatic transmissions.

This will change when the flagship VZ5 with its turbocharged five-cylinder from the Audi RS3 arrives later this year.

The entry-level Formentor S is powered by a 1.5-litre turbo four-cylinder with 48V mild-hybrid assistance and total system outputs of 110kW and 250Nm. It has a seven-speed dual-clutch and is front-wheel drive.

The Formentor V gets a 2.0-litre turbo four-cylinder that produces 150kW and 320Nm. This is 10kW more than before. It has a seven-speed dual-clutch and is all-wheel drive.

The Formentor VZe has a 1.5-litre turbo four-cylinder and an electric motor with total system outputs of 200kW and 400Nm. This is 20kW more than before. It has a six-speed dual-clutch and is front-wheel drive.

Lastly the Fomentor VZx has a 2.0-litre turbo four-cylinder that produces 245kW and 420Nm. This is 17kW and 20Nm more than before. It has a seven-speed dual-clutch and is all-wheel drive.

This is the latest iteration of Audi’s twin-turbo 4.0-litre V8 petrol engine - and it’s a beauty.

While this engine is used in a variety of models, for the RS Q8 Performance Audi has taken power to 471kW with 850Nm of torque, which, as mentioned earlier, makes it the most powerful internal combustion engine Audi has ever offered in a production car.

That’s also a big boost over the previous RS Q8, which managed 441kW/800Nm, and is only just shy of the 485kW/850Nm offered by its ‘cousin’, the Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT.

Audi claims that the RS Q8 Performance will launch 0-100km/h in just 3.6 seconds and keep going to an electronically limited top speed of 250km/h. We tried to test the acceleration time on a closed circuit, but driving into a very strong headwind the big SUV could manage only 4.4 seconds - which is still a very quick time given its size and luxury.

The engine is paired to an eight-speed automatic transmission and Audi’s trademark quattro all-wheel-drive system to help smoothly transmit so much power to the road.

One of the biggest changes with this update is the Formentor VZe’s PHEV system.

It now features a larger 20kWh lithium-ion battery pack that allows up to 114km of electric driving, according to WLTP testing. This is roughly double the amount of the pre-update car.

This battery now also offers DC fast charging at rates up to 50kW, plus the AC charging rate has increased to 11kW (it was previously 3.6kW).

Cupra claims the updated Formentor VZe consumes an average of 1.7L/100km, which is 0.2L/100km better than the pre-update car. However, this will depend greatly on whether you charge the battery.

Elsewhere in the line-up, the entry-level Formentor S with its mild-hybrid system has a claimed combined fuel consumption of 5.5L/100km.

The Formentor V is claimed to consume 7.0L/100km and the VZx is claimed to consume 8.3L/100km (8.5L/100km with the Extreme package).

The Formentor V and VZx have 55L fuel tanks, the S has a 50L fuel tank and the VZe has a 40L fuel tank. All require a minimum of 95 RON premium unleaded petrol, while the VZx requires a minimum of 98 RON premium unleaded petrol.

Unfortunately you don’t get the most powerful production engine without some trade-off, and for the RS Q8 Performance that means significant fuel consumption. The official fuel economy rating is a very thirsty 12.2L/100km, but that's the best-case scenario too. If you partake in some spirited driving that unleashes the full potential of the engine will result in a higher rate of premium unleaded being consumed by the big V8. We saw returns in the high teens across our time, but that was largely open road driving, so we’ll reserve final judgement for an extended test drive across more varied conditions.

Thankfully there’s a fairly large 85L fuel tank, so if you can hit the claimed average you can get a theoretical 696km of range.

The entry-level Formentor S’s mild-hybrid powertrain has modest outputs of 110kW and 250Nm and around town there’s enough juice on tap.

However, once you get out on the open road the ceiling of this powertrain reveals itself quickly, requiring it to dive back through the gears ruthlessly in order to keep up the pace. This is less of a problem if you’ve already got the car in a sporty drive mode.

The small electric motor that’s fed by the 48V mild-hybrid battery provides a minor boost off the mark, but it mainly smooths out the low-speed hesitancy from the dual-clutch automatic.

Moving up, the Formentor V’s turbo-petrol engine firms as the sweet spot of the line-up if you’re not after the ballistic craziness of the VZx. With the extra power and torque it’s a little less stressed than the S, plus you have the security of all-wheel grip.

The Formentor VZe’s PHEV powertrain is noticeably different from behind the wheel. Extra electric range aside, the electric motor is still packaged within the dual-clutch transmission although unlike the pre-update model, you can no longer feel the car shifting between gears.

There’s plenty of power available and depending on the battery charge the car can turn the engine off and on even at highway speeds. You can’t actually feel it happening, you only see the tacho rise and fall.

Lastly, the VZx is a missile. It feels incredibly unstressed in everyday driving and with a subtle flex of the right foot it gets moving with haste.

Like some Volkswagen Group products, the Formentor can hold a higher gear in its standard drive mode, taking a beat to kick down a gear if required. Thankfully peak torque is available down low in the rev range across the line-up.

Compared to the pre-update model, the VZx now gains a trick torque-splitting rear differential and a ‘Drift’ mode. We had the chance to sample the old and new cars back-to-back on a wet skid pan and the difference is night and day.

The pre-update model has terminal understeer no matter how much you coax it, however the updated Formentor VZx is incredibly tail-happy. You can do smile-inducing four-wheel drifts with ease, plus it will stop itself from going over the edge and spinning out.

Obviously this is something that you can only use on private roads and it isn’t something that you’d use everyday. It’s a cool novelty feature to try if you get the chance.

As standard there is progressive steering across the line-up which ramps up the resistance the more you turn the wheel. In practice this makes the Formentor a fun and agile car to drive, even around town.

A subtle change with this update is the entry-level Formentor S and V now receive a standard passive damper set-up, whereas the VZe and VZx have adaptive dampers. The latter was previously standard across the line-up and it allows you to configure the ride from comfort soft to sporty firm.

While it’s nice to have the configurability, the ride on the standard passive dampers is still beautifully compliant. It’s a little more comfort-oriented than I’d expect from a Cupra but I don’t hate this in the less-powerful variants.

In terms of noise, vibration and harshness (NVH), this is the Formentor’s downfall. Like many European cars, there is a lot of road and tyre noise on the open road, especially on coarse-chip roads.

Surprisingly some of the cars on the launch were already starting to develop random rattles around the cabin. This isn’t great as all the cars were brand new with around 1000km on the odometer.

Obviously the RS Q8 Performance is all about speed, Audi made its intention clear by sending it to the Nurburgring to set a new SUV lap record for an SUV. But the reality is most owners are unlikely to hit the racetrack in the RS Q8, so what’s it like on the road?

In a word? Impressive.

While the engine is undoubtedly the star attraction offering up so much effortless performance, the RS Q8 Performance wouldn’t be so quick around the Nurburgring or as nice to drive on the road without its highly advanced chassis systems.

It has an array of technology to help it handle, it has active air suspension, adaptive dampers, active roll stabilisation and all-wheel steering, which help to make this big SUV handle like a much smaller car.

The suspension does a remarkable job of providing a compliant ride on such large alloy wheels, while also providing responsiveness.

The handling is certainly helped by the all-wheel steering, which gets the rear wheels to turn in the opposite direction to the fronts at low speed (below 50km/h), but in the same direction at high speed (above 80km/h), making the big SUV feels much more direct when changing direction.

As for the overall experience, that’s helped by Audi’s surprising decision to actually remove some of the sound insulation, which allows you to hear the engine even more than you ordinarily would. This really plays to the dynamic nature of the RS Q8 Performance.

The RS Q8 Performance comes stacked with the full suite of active safety features. These include adaptive cruise control, lane change warning, rear cross-traffic alert and surround-view cameras.

ANCAP rated the Q8 as five stars back when it first launched in 2019 and that rating is due to expire at the end of 2025. However, ANCAP states that it only applies to the 3.0-litre Q8 models, not the V8-powered RS variants.

The Formentor, like all other Cupras, is covered by a five-year, unlimited-kilometre warranty, which is a little lacklustre for a mainstream brand now as many have moved to conditional eight or 10-year terms.

Logbook servicing is required every 12 months or 15,000km, whichever comes first.

There are three- and five-year pre-paid service packages available that are priced at $1090 and $2190, respectively. In the latter case, this means each service averages out to almost $440 which is fairly average for a European car.

Cupra currently has 40 dealers and 28 service centres in Australia. Many of these are located around major cities.

Despite the extra power and fancy new brakes, the RS Q8 Performance costs the same to service as the existing RS Q8.

That means $4690 for Audi’s five-year service plan, and $5720 for the Audi Advantage.

The latter package includes an extra two-year, unlimited kilometre warranty on top of Audi’s five year/unlimited km coverage. It also includes two extra services and two more years of roadside assistance, to keep you covered for seven years total.

That’s good, but it’s still an extra cost when many mainstream brands already offer seven years of coverage as standard.