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Used Holden VS Ute review: 1995-2000
By Graham Smith · 03 Jun 2003
THE Holden ute was a favourite work wagon for farmers, tradesmen and small business owners from the day of its introduction in 1951, and it was a sad day when it disappeared from showrooms with the demise of the WB in 1984.Holden launched a new Commodore-based VG ute in 1990, but it was not the worker of old.  Where the traditional Holden ute was a real workhorse with a tough full chassis and useable payload, the Commodore ute was a bit of a lightweight softie by comparison.It was based on the long-wheelbase Commodore, so there was no chassis, and it had coil springs in the rear instead of leafs. The payload of 710kg was well down on the payload of the old utes, particularly the one-tonne chassis-cab.The Commodore-based ute had plenty to live up to, given that the series of utes that kicked off with the HQ in 1971 and ran through to the WB in 1984 were tough old trucks that stood up to the abuse of daily life on the work site for years.Tradesmen and farmers were quickly attracted to them for their combination of performance, comfort and ability to carry a real workload, while in recent years they have become a favourite of a new generation looking for a cool vehicle for weekend getaways.Those who held the old Holden utes in such high regard thumbed their nose at the Commodore-based ute when it first arrived and it wasn't immediately accepted as a real workhorse.  It was the ute driven to the work site by the boss, not the workers.It was more likely to carry the lunches rather than the tools of trade.  The VS ute introduced in 1995 was the final evolution of the original Commodore-based ute before the all-new VU model came in 2000.It remained something of a softie in work terms, but had gained greater popularity as a sports ute which was a cool daily driver that could carry the sports gear at the weekend.THE VS was a facelift, but it was a much refined version of the VR ute which first saw the light of day in 1993.  Like its passenger car cousins, the VS utes were little different on the outside from their predecessors. Most of the changes took place under the skin.The big news was the ECOTEC V6 engine which, while seemingly identical to the 3.8-litre V6 it replaced, was almost entirely new: smaller, lighter, smoother and more fuel-efficient than its predecessor.  Capacity remained at 3.8-litres, but it had a new block, heads, manifolds and an all-alloy cast sump.The electronics were upgraded with a new computer, as well as a hot-wire air-mass sensor and sequential fuel-injection.  It all added up to 17kW more power, which was now 147kW at 5200 revs with peak torque of 304Nm at 3600 revs. But there was also a 6 per cent improvement in fuel consumption, while meeting exhaust emission rules.  Transmission choices were a five-speed manual box and four-speed electronic auto.A Series II upgrade in 1996 can be identified by Series II badges and oval-shaped side blinker repeater lights. It also brought a number of small improvements, including a new five-speed German Getrag manual gearbox for the V6.  Mid-1998 saw a Series III upgrade, identified by Series III badges and clear side blinker repeater lights.There were also a number of interior upgrades, and for the first time there was a 5.0-litre Holden V8 SS model to complement the previous range which was limited to the standard Commodore and S models.  The SS was distinguished by a neatly integrated body kit made up of front bumper and side skirts.  There was also a polished alloy rear sports bar, 16-inch alloy wheels, fog lamps and SS decals.The SS V8 gave the hottie ute plenty of tail-wagging performance with 168kW driving the rear wheels through a five-speed manual and a limited-slip diff.  ABS and sports suspension helped keep it in line, which was nice when the rear inevitably stepped out under enthusiastic acceleration.Inside there was leather wrapping on the sports steering wheel, hand brake and gearshift knob.  The seats had SS identification, there were power windows and airconditioning was standard.The arrival of the SS was a clear indication that the Holden ute had become as much a lifestyle vehicle as it was a hard worker.EARLY VS utes will now have upwards of 200,000km showing on the odometer, which should be enough to have potential owners approaching them with caution.  1995 VS utes start at $9000, with a premium of $800 for the auto, while the S model starts at $10,500 in manual form and $11,200 with the auto.2000 Series III models run as high as $15,700 for the base six-cylinder manual ute -- add another $1000 for the auto. S models will cost as much as $18,000 in manual form with a similar premium for the auto trans, and the SS will run to $22,500.THE Holden ute's body and chassis are robust and reliable, and little trouble is reported from the field.  Likewise the V6 engines are generally robust with a number of owners reporting untroubled motoring well above 200,000km.Look for oil leaks from the rear main crankshaft seal and around the oil pan, and also from the power steering pump.  Fuel pumps tend to fail around the 200,000km mark.  One owner was less than happy when his engine had to be replaced because of a worn camshaft at quite low mileage, and he says the telltale noise is back again. Overheating in autos in VS II utes can lead to transmission problems at around 100,000km.  It can't be fixed simply by changing the oil, and Holden rebuilt or replaced a number of transmissions.  Holden fixed the problem by releasing an oil cooler kit which can be retro-fitted.Noisy diffs are also a widespread problem. It's important to use the Holden-recommended oil in diffs to avoid a howling rear-end. Diff seals can also be a problem.
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Globe shelf life
Answered by Graham Smith · 15 Nov 2002

The reasons why a lamp may not be working can be varied. The most common cause is the use of poor replacement globes. Like all components, globes have a set life span and will need to be replaced. When one globe does go, replace both because they will have the same life span and the other one will probably fail soon after the first. Also use quality globes, which are normally available from an auto-electrician and will last longer. Heat can be a problem affecting globe life. Globes heat up quite quickly when in use, and can fail if there's not enough air flow around them to dissipate the heat. It's a particular problem with high-mount stop lights which are often contained within small, tightly sealed housings with little cooling air flow. Added to which it is not uncommon for owners to fit incorrect globes, usually globes of too high a wattage, and these can overheat more easily in the stop-light environment, sometimes to the point of melting the socket. Water is another cause if there's a poor seal around the lamp.

Oily standards
Answered by Graham Smith · 24 Apr 2003

It's a question of how much oil is being burnt. Too much will foul the converter and inhibit its ability to turn harmful emissions from the engine into largely harmless gases emitted into the atmosphere. Excessive oil in the exhaust gases will affect the converter, but Holden assures us those engines that do show high oil consumption -- and Holden says these are few and far between -- don't consume enough to be a problem in terms of converter operation.

Japanese option the best
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 15 May 2003

Reliability and resale should be the key factors in your decision, given you're doing about 30,000km a year. That's considerably more than the average, and in three years you'd be clocking up close to 100,000km. With that in mind I suggest you go for a Japanese brand with a reputation for quality and reliability. That way you are more likely to have a trouble-free run and have a car that will be highly valued on the used-car market when you come to sell it. The Lanos and Accent are both built in Korea by companies whose credo was cheap, cheap, cheap. While the reliability of their products wasn't necessarily poor, their cars weren't built as well as their more expensive Japanese-made rivals. The Korean makes don't hold their values as well as the cars from Toyota, Mazda, Honda and Nissan. I'd consider a Nissan Pulsar, a Mazda 121, Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla, all of which are good, robust cars with good resale potential.

Tale of two veterans
Answered by Graham Smith · 08 May 2003

I assume the VH Commodore is a six, which was a new updated XT6 version of the venerable pushrod Holden six. While it was improved over the previous versions of the engine it was still quite inefficient even by 1982 standards. The Trimatic three-speed should have plenty of life left in it, but check the oil and make sure it's nice and red. Also make sure the shifts are smooth and precise with no sign of flaring on part or full throttle. Check the body for rust, particularly in the lower sections of the front guards, the lower sections of the doors, around the rear side windows and around the tail gate and rear window. The Camry has lots of life left in it, but it is near the mileage where major servicing could be needed. The Camry is most likely to be in better condition overall than the Commodore, which can be expected to be riddled with squeaks and rattles in the body.

Commodore options
Answered by Graham Smith · 05 Jun 2003

The supercharged version of the ECOTEC V6 is an option in the Commodore S and produces 171kW compared with 147kW produced by the normally aspirated V6, which is the standard engine. One thing you might want to consider is that the supercharged engine is only available with the four-speed auto transmission where there is a choice of manual or auto with the standard V6. The auto tends to dull the driving experience of the supercharged V6, but it is still a lively engine and fun to drive. The VT Series II saw the introduction of the 5.7-litre Gen III Chev V8 which is a relatively high-revving V8 compared with the old Holden V8 it replaced, but it is also a fun engine to drive and comes with a choice of auto or six-speed manual. There is no significant difference in servicing or parts costs with either the S or the SS, but we are aware that some Gen III V8s have had problems with piston rattle and high oil consumption and you should carefully check for any sign of these problems with any car you are considering buying.

Commodore value
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 24 Oct 2002

The VS 2 is already an old shape so it's not likely to fall in value because of the arrival of the VY. The VS 2 is a good choice for a solid, competent used car, so I wouldn't wait in the vain hope of lower prices. The VS 2 is a popular car with used-car buyers and will continue to be so.

Holden Commodore: What's the best looking?
Answered by CarsGuide team · 29 Nov 2002

I don't like the VY styling either and agree that the VT and the VX are the best-looking cars in the recent series of Commodores. I would have to recommend the VX Series 2 if you can afford it. It's the newest model of the two, so it is a better bet. The VX also has the benefits of the development that takes place over the life of a car. Build quality is at its best, and any problems have usually been fixed. The VX 2 will also have a lower odometer reading, which means its useful life to you will be longer and it will have a better resale value when you sell it. But there isn't much wrong with the earlier model, so it really comes down to what you can afford. In terms of reliability there isn't much between the VT and the VX, so I wouldn't worry about that.

Leakage an issue
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 22 Nov 2002

Leakage from the rear main seal has been a a problem with Holden engines for many years, but its the sort of problem that will cause an annoying stain on your driveway rather than a breakdown. In some cases, if the leak is excessive, it can effect the roadworthiness of your car. We contacted Holden, and this is what a spokesman told us: ``The issue outlined by your reader tends to happen more with cars that aren't driven very often. They are most likely used for small trips, and the materials (iron and aluminium) are expanding and cooling at different rates. ``In late 1997 Holden offered a new seal on the 3.8 V6 and in March 2000 we further developed a new non-stick gasket. ``There has been no change to the assemblies themselves during this time, only the gaskets.''

Holden Rodeo 1993: Brake pad replacement
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 24 Jan 2003

I don't want to doubt your claims, Robert, but it is hard to believe you've done almost a quarter of a million kilometres on the original pads and shoes and they are only a quarter worn. If you're correct I'd say you're on track to set a world record. I'd be phoning the Guinness Book of Records and getting them prepared for a new entry. Seriously though, commercials do have different braking requirements from passenger cars. They have to carry loads and they are not expected to stop on a 5c piece, as we expect our passenger cars to do today. Also, commercial vehicle operators would not tolerate the wear rates of some passenger cars and there would be an outcry if their utes and vans chewed up brake linings like some passenger cars do.

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