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Used Holden HDT Commodore review: 1980
By Graham Smith · 07 May 2005
When Peter Brock started his special vehicles operation in 1980 he could not have envisaged its impact on the local car business 25 years later.  Brock admits he used the Shelby Mustang operation in the US and AMG in Germany as models for his HDT Special Vehicles, which in turn provided the model for Holden Special Vehicles and Ford Performance Vehicles that have followed and flourished.The first special was the VC HDT Commodore, released in 1980 to much fanfare. As the first of the genre it's now a classic appreciating in value.Model watchAs with the operations he emulated, Brock's brief was simple. He'd take a stock VC Commodore and modify it to enhance its performance and road-holding without compromising ADR compliance.He chose the top of the range VC Commodore SL/E which already came with plenty of fruit, the perfect base for Brock to build a European-style high-performance sports sedan that was comfortable, but handled well and looked sexy.It came already fitted with Holden's 308 cubic inch (5.05 litres) V8, but Brock and his team blueprinted it and fitted big valves which bettered standard V8 performance.  They also fitted a heavy-duty air-cleaner taken from a Chevy and added a fresh air intake to improve its breathing. It was fitted with the Holden factory dual exhaust system.With Brock's mods on board the Holden V8 put out 160kW at 4500 revs and 450Nm at 2800 revs which had it racing to 100km/h in 8.4 seconds and through the standing 400m sprint in 16.1 secs.  Brock offered the choice of Holden's four-speed manual gearbox or the three-speed auto, and a limited-slip diff was standard.Underneath Brock really worked his magic, fitting uprated and lowered springs and Bilstein gas shock absorbers for a lower stance and much-improved handling.  German Irmscher 15-inch alloy wheels and Uniroyal 60-series tyres completed the grip-and-go picture.A sporting car needs a sporty image and Brock gave it a major cosmetic makeover in the form of a fibreglass body kit with wheel arch flares, front bib spoiler and a rear wing.  Colours were white, back and red, and the package was finished off with some wild red, black and white race stripes down the side.Inside Brock enhanced the SL/E interior with a signed Momo steering wheel, a special gearshift knob, and a driver's foot rest.  Doesn't sound so special today, but in 1980 there was nothing like it.He built 500 VC HDT Commodores. He probably didn't feel it would last but his HDT specials were a sensation, continuing until 1987.  Today HSV builds special Holdens, FPV does Fords. It's unlikely either would exist if Brock hadn't needed funding for his race team.In the shopWhen considering a VC HDT Commodore it's important to remember that the foundations are strictly Holden so the main mechanical components are relatively easy to find to replace, and easy to repair or service.  Check that the special Brock components are there, the signed steering wheel, Irmscher alloys, high-flow air-cleaner.When Brock built those VCs, body kits were rough and ready. Unlike today's body kits, made of durable material to take a knock and fit well, the old kits were fibreglass, didn't stand up well when hit, and didn't fit well.  Check body kit components, such as the wheel arch flares, for cracking around attachment points and distortion between the mounting points.Crunch timeDon't expect airbags in a VC Commodore, they weren't fitted. ABS wasn't an option, but it did have four-wheel discs and rack-and-pinion steering, and the road-holding of the Brock-tuned suspension.VC HDT BROCK COMMODORE 1980Rumbling V8 exhaust notePresence of special Brock partsHigh fuel consumptionSolid performanceComfortable rideReassuring handlingPotential to increase in valueRating15/20 Good looking classic Australian sports sedan with Brock branding that has the potential to increase in value.
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And what price a fine vl?
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 31 Mar 2005

THE VL Commodore is a popular model and you should find plenty of willing buyers. The odometer reading is very low and provided it has been well serviced and is roadworthy, any new owner should need to do little to it. It would be worth contacting Holden car clubs in your area. An average VL Commodore has a value of about $5000, but yours could be worth $8000-$10,000 if it is as good as you say.

What kind of fuel am I?
Answered by Graham Smith · 05 May 2005

I WOULD run it on regular unleaded all the time. That's what it was developed to run on and it does it without any problem. You can use PULP, but in my view that's a waste of money in the VS Commodore. I can't say one unleaded is better than another, except that I would make sure the one you use has no more than the 10 per cent ethanol allowed under the law. Some small outlets have been known to use up to 20 per cent ethanol, which can have an adverse effect on fuel system components. I would recommend you use one of the well-known brands.

Low expectations
Answered by Graham Smith · 07 Jul 2005

YOU are permitted to lower your car, provided the distance between the suspension bump stop and the component making contact with the bump stop is not reduced by more than one third. And you must not go below the minimum 100mm ground-clearance requirement. When it comes to fitting larger-diameter wheels, the overall diameter of the replacement tyre and wheel must not be more than 15mm greater than the largest diameter tyre specified for the VX. You also have to take into account that changing the overall diameter of the wheel and tyre will affect the accuracy of the speedo and odo. The changes you're talking about sound fine, and not too radical. But talk to a tyre and wheel specialist such as Russell Stuckey at Stuckey Tyre Services and a suspension specialist such as Pedders for the best advice. You'll have to talk to your insurer to determine the effect on your cover. Some companies are not interested in taking on modified cars. If that's the case, you could try specialist insurers such as Just Car Insurance, Shannons or Torque Underwriting.

Berlina worry
Answered by CarsGuide team · 14 Jul 2005

YOURS is a well-known problem with the Gen III V8, one that Holden has been good at recognising and fixing. Go through the dealer check as they have requested. At the same time, register your concern that you have a problem that needs to be fixed. I'm sure Holden will take care of you, regardless of the warranty having run out. If you aren't happy, contact the company's customer-relations people and tell them your concerns.

No premium for lpg falcon
Answered by Graham Smith · 01 Sep 2005

THE dedicated E-gas option on the Falcon costs $1400, which is what you need to recoup before you start saving money. My calculations, done after driving a dedicated LPG Falcon against a petrol one, suggest you will be in front after 20,000km, which I estimate to be a little more than a year's driving. That's a new Falcon, but it's going to be less with a used car because the market doesn't value the E-gas option, so you should be able to pick up a BA E-gas car for the same price as a petrol one. You're saving money from the start that way. Holden didn't have an LPG option in the VY, so any you find on theused-car market will be an aftermarket installation.

How much for a clone?
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 05 May 2005

AN AVERAGE VX II Executive is worth about $15,000 on the retail market. What it's worth with the additional body kit, wheels and tyres is hard to estimate. It often comes down to what the buyer is prepared to pay. An Executive that looks like a HSV R8 is likely to be hot property to a young driver who wants the looks but can't afford the real thing, so I'd guess $18,000-$20,000. For tyres I wouldn't go past the Bridgestones.

Van guard
Answered by Graham Smith · 05 May 2005

ACCORDING to Geoff Clay of CPA Automatics, Holden fixed the fault with the valve body that was the root cause of the VS problem and it hasn't been a worry with the VT Commodore. If you plan to tow, it's best to have your transmission serviced.

Which runabout?
Answered by Graham Smith · 07 Apr 2005

THE Camira was heavily criticised when it was new, and the criticism was justified. They rusted badly, burned oil and fell to bits. Early models should be avoided at all costs, but by the time Holden turned out the JE, most of the problems had been fixed. The problem is they are now at least 15 years old so should be approached with caution.

Holden Commodore: Tyre wear
Answered by Graham Smith · 09 Jun 2005

THE problem is related to Holden's independent rear suspension. A compromise set-up, it goes through some pretty severe geometry changes as the wheel moves up and down. Lowering the suspension may have made the problem worse. The wear is more severe on high-performance cars, which tend to be driven harder. Pedders has a camber and toe change kit that will help the problem. It takes about half a day to fit and adjust and costs about $380.

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