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Things that have had a name change AFTER they’ve become famous…
Okay… there’s Kanye West’s switch to Ye, Twitter’s rebranding to X and now this – the Audi Q8 e-tron.
As the brand’s first production EV, it used to be known simply as Audi e-tron. But that was confusing, because – Porsche Taycan-based GT and RS sports sedans aside – every electrified vehicle that the company has made before and since wears e-tron as a suffix.
Beyond new badging, the Q8 e-tron also brings a facelift and improvements underneath, to better challenge the BMW iX, Jaguar I-Pace and Mercedes EQC and EQE large electric SUVs, among others.
How does the Ingolstadt EV fare? Let’s find out.
An American all-electric car brand with a unique take on the automotive industry, an up and down share price and a cheaper model in its future plans. You could be mistaken for thinking I’m talking about Tesla, but I’m not.
Recently CarsGuide got the opportunity to experience an alternative electric car brand, and one that, despite having many similarities to Tesla, is also in many respects its polar opposite.
I’m talking about Rivian, which is very much behind Tesla in terms of sales, market cap and just about every other measure. But what it does have is a compelling line-up of electric vehicles, with plans for expansion, including an eventual entry into Australia.
Back in 2023 we drove the brand’s ute, the R1T, but on a recent trip to Los Angeles we sampled the brand’s other model, the R1S SUV. It was an eye-opener to see how far the brand has come in two years and showcased just how different Rivian is from Tesla.
The Audi Q8 e-tron ushers in welcome improvements to an already likeable and capable large luxury SUV.
But it is also feeling dated compared to newer and fresher rivals like the BMW iX, isn’t as good to drive as the best, offers disappointing range for the size of the new battery, and prices are creeping up for what is essentially a half-decade-old EV.
The name change isn’t enough. What the Q8 e-tron really needs is a massive leap in its Vorsprung durch Technik in a rapidly evolving electrified landscape.
Very good… but far from great.
While there are some obvious signs that the R1S is Rivian’s first mass-market vehicle, the good news for the company is that its problems are not impossible to overcome. The suspension needs retuning to improve the ride quality and the multimedia system’s software needs upgrading. But even with those issues the R1S left a positive impression.
This is a very stylish SUV with great space and excellent performance, that also happens to be electric, rather than relying on being electric as its primary selling point.
Rivian has put more effort into the design and finishes than many of its EV rivals and the result is a vehicle that can genuinely compete with the established premium players with more credibility.
The only catch is there’s no clear timeframe for when, or even if, this generation of R1S will make it to Australia. The brand has repeatedly spoken of its hopes of entering the market here without locking anything in, but given the current state of the EV sales it may pay off to wait until the conditions are right for a new, premium player to try its luck here.
The Q8 e-tron looks smaller than it actually is, with the SUV wagon’s length/width/height/wheelbase numbers measuring in at 4915/1937/1633mm/2928mm, respectively.
The Sportback version is slightly lower at 1619mm.
You’ll need a keen eye to spot the difference between the old e-tron and new Q8 e-tron, with almost all of the visual changes reserved for the front end.
For starters, there’s a new, two-dimensional four-ring logo that looks larger and flatter than before, sitting within a sleeker and slimmer grille treatment that now takes in the restyled headlights. Along with the redesigned bumper, the effect serves to broaden the SUV’s stance.
The effect also suggests improved aerodynamics, aided by small air foils near the wheel arches and a fully-clad underbody section.
Otherwise, aside from the odd inclusion of the make-model name on the B-pillar and minor trim updates out back, the Q8 e-tron keeps the same, contemporary appearance of its predecessor. Which is no bad thing.
And there are even fewer changes inside.
Design is another area where Rivian has carved out a unique position for itself. Whereas other brands, including Tesla, have focused on simplicity and aerodynamic efficiency, Rivian has given the R1T a unique style that looks interesting, different and most definitely not plain.
The oval daytime running lights make every R1S and R1T stand out from a mile away, even on LA’s busy freeways. The overall design is high quality and manages to strike a good balance between aesthetics, aerodynamics and practicality - even if it doesn’t suit everyone’s personal taste.
The cabin is worth highlighting in particular, because rather than go for the ‘minimalist’ look that so many brands are going for these days, with as little switchgear and different trims as possible to keep costs down, Rivian has opted for something more complex and, frankly, more impressive.
There’s a level of craftsmanship, a great mixture of premium materials (including some striking light wood options) that make the R1S feel like a stylish and relaxed environment inside the cabin. Our particular example had a great mixture of colours, textures and patterns that really elevated the cabin experience.
The technology is also nicely integrated into the design, rather than being the focal point, like so many other modern electric vehicles. It still offers the same level of technology - a pair of screens - but doesn’t rely on them to carry the design of the interior.
More than merely good enough.
Entry and egress are easy thanks to a lofty ride height and wide-opening doors. Once sat, you’ll discover Audi has not changed anything much inside compared to the old e-tron. Frankly, very little needed to.
You’ll still find a strikingly stylish and upmarket cabin offering sufficient space for five people, a commanding driving position, superbly supportive front seats that are a boon when long-distance driving, plenty of storage options, ample ventilation and suitably moody lighting.
While not the most modern dash on the market when contrasted to the vast ‘hyper’ screens of some rivals, the Q8 e-tron’s remains very architectural in appearance and presentation.
Trim and material quality are certainly up to brand expectations. Practicality remains a priority, with lots of storage areas within the dash, console and door cards.
There are no fewer than three screens – a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster Audi calls 'Virtual Cockpit', a 10.1-inch central multimedia display with haptic feedback and an 8.6-inch unit for climate control.
While they may seem daunting at first, a little familiarisation means most users will find them easy to operate.
Kudos, too, to the super-clear markings in the instrumentation, as well as the very satisfying tactile sensations of using the quality switchgear and controls. Typical Audi thoroughness here.
The same applies to the Q8 e-tron’s roomy and pleasantly-presented back seat area, with intelligently designed seating offering a nicely angled backrest as well as supportive cushion.
Three people can fit across without too much pain, though two is better, as the folding centre armrest and other amenities like air vents and climate control systems can be better-accessed and enjoyed.
You can see, smell and feel where your money’s gone inside. This is a quiet, isolated and cocooning experience, whether cruising on the motorway or stuck in heavy urban traffic. As you’d expect from a luxury SUV.
About the only real jarring aspect are the $3500 virtual exterior mirrors, created to improve aero performance. Their door-mounted screens are set low, outside the natural visual eyeline of the driver, creating confusion and adding precious extra seconds of eyes not on the road ahead. They’re irritating to the point of frustration.
Otherwise, the Q8 e-tron gets the job done inside, with cargo capacity at a reasonable 569 litres in the SUV wagon and 528L in the Sportback. And there’s even a 62L tub in the frunk up front to store the cables that also come standard with the EV.
Audi interior and packaging expertise strikes again.
The R1S comes standard as a seven-seat SUV, split across three rows (two in the first row, three in the second row and two in the third row). Space across the three rows is fairly typical for an SUV of this size, which is to say generous up front, good in the second row and a little bit tight in the back.
What is good though, is the length of the cabin allows for quite a spacious boot even with the third row in use, which is definitely not something all seven-seat SUVs can claim. Using a direct conversion from Rivian’s specifications that list cargo capacity in cubic feet, the R1S has a claimed 498 litres with the third row in use and up to 1331L with the third row folded down. There’s also 314L under the bonnet and another 144L underneath the boot floor (although that comes at the expense of a spare tyre).
As mentioned in design, Rivian has nicely integrated the technology into the cabin, with the 12.3-inch digital driver display and 15.6-inch central multimedia touchscreen feeling like a natural part of the car rather than a centrepiece. Rivian has also managed to incorporate eight USB-C charging ports spread around the cabin to keep everyone’s devices charged up.
However, while the technology is nice from an aesthetic design perspective, the same cannot be said about its useability. Like Tesla, Rivian has opted to go it alone with its multimedia system and has developed its own Google-based software that is not compatible with either Android Auto or Apple CarPlay. That would be acceptable, although still disappointing, if the system worked as well as Tesla’s, however the Rivian system is very slow. It repeatedly took several seconds to load between the various functions, which may not sound like long, but when you’re trying to get back to the navigation so you don’t miss your freeway exit a few seconds can make a big difference.
But, honestly, in this day-and-age, systems like this should work quickly and seamlessly, so it’s an area Rivian needs to improve.
On a positive note, Rivian does have some cool accessories for the R1S including what it calls a ‘Camp Speaker’ which is a US$400 option that it integrates into the sound system but is also removable, so you can pull it out of the centre console and listen to your music if you’re around the campfire or having a picnic.
First thing’s first. The Q8 e-tron has very little in common with the existing Q8 petrol, diesel and SQ8 high-performance models.
These, along with the larger Q7, have internal combustion engines.
However, keep in mind all leverage variations of the same 'MLB Evo' architecture that first saw the light of day all the way back in 2015. So, no spring chickens here.
But as it currently also serves Bentley, Lamborghini and Porsche SUVs, we’re talking about a classy set of components, anyway. Plus, the pre-facelift model was only rolled out on the world market in 2019.
For now, only a single variant is here, known as the Q8 e-tron 55, meaning the previous, smaller-battery 50 and flagship SQ8 aren’t here yet. That will happen sometime during 2024.
As before, there’s the choice of a traditional SUV wagon or more-popular BMW X6-style Sportback SUV coupe.
Prices start at $153,900 (all prices are before on-road costs) for the former and $165,900 for the latter, and that’s a jump of nearly $8K and $9K respectively over their old e-tron-as-a-noun-rather-than-an-adjective predecessors.
At least the Q8 e-tron is well equipped.
On the safety front, you’ll find about 40 driver assistance systems, backed up by a plethora of cameras, radar sensors and ultrasonic sensors to help keep the SUV as secure as possible.
These include a 360-degree camera system, adaptive cruise control, lane-support systems, rear cross-traffic assist and Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB).
More on safety further down below.
All models also include adaptive air suspension with a variable ride height range of 76mm, a drive-mode selector that switches between normal and sport settings, LED headlights with auto high beams, keyless entry/start, front and rear climate control, heated and powered front seats and adjustable regenerative braking paddles on the steering wheel.
There's also a head-up display, three digital screens including electronic instrumentation and a central touchscreen with haptic feedback, satellite navigation, Android Auto, wireless Apple CarPlay, digital radio, wireless smartphone charging, four USB-C ports, an electric tailgate with gesture control, roof rails and 20-inch alloy wheels – with a space-saver spare wheel to boot.
Plus, an undisclosed number of Launch Edition SUVs from $165,900 are also available, adding Audi’s S line exterior styling touches, 21-inch wheels, sports front seats, a racier steering wheel, electric steering column adjustment and more.
Note that the base Q8 e-tron 55 does not include leather upholstery (it’s synthetic material instead) or a sunroof as standard.
Pricing and spec, then, are generally in-line with the luxury Euro EV SUV competition, which is to say, a bit on the exxy side.
Let’s check out the changes.
When we drove the R1T in 2023 Rivian was still in the ramp up stage of production and was limited with what it could offer customers. Fast forward to 2025 and the brand now has both the R1T and R1S available with dual or tri motor powertrains, with a quad-motor powertrain expected by the end of the year.
The R1S Dual Standard begins the range at US$75,900 (approx. A$118,000), the R1S Dual steps it up to US$83,900 (A$130k) and the R1S Tri-motor completes the current line-up at US$105,900 (A$165k). While those prices are definitely in the premium end of the market the R1S is actually cheaper than the Tesla Model X, which is still on sale in the US market, and starts at US$86,630 (A$135k) and stretches to US$101,630 (A$158k).
For more context, the Audi Q8 e-tron starts at US$74,800, the BMW iX from US$87,250 and the Mercedes-Benz EQE from US$77,900.
Standard equipment across the range includes the 12.3-inch digital instrument display, 15.6-inch multimedia touchscreen, dual-zone climate control, heated and ventilated front seats, heated steering wheel, eight-way power adjustable driver and passenger seat and panoramic glass roof, so it certainly has premium levels of equipment.
We drove the range-topping RS1 Tri-motor which, aside from an extra motor, gets standard 22-inch alloy wheels, a dynamic glass roof, a soft-touch suede textile headliner as well as unique colour and trim options.
Tech-overload alert. As per its predecessor, the Q8 e-tron 55 continues with two electric motors – one on each axle – for ‘quattro’ all-wheel drive.
Upgraded internals are said to improve efficiency substantially. Both are induction/asynchronous motors, mated to a single-gear two-stage ratio planetary transmission.
In the 55 model, the dual-motor set-up delivers a combined 300kW of power and 664Nm of torque, for a healthy 0-100km/h sprint-time of 5.6 seconds, on the way to a 200km/h top speed.
That’s impressive, given the lightest Q8 e-tron 55 tips the scales from 2595kg. That said, the Audi’s power-to-weight ratio is an equally strong 116kg/tonne.
Other updates include more direct steering, stiffer front suspension and retuned chassis controls.
Suspension is a five-link arrangement all-around, with adaptive air suspension featuring an electronically controlled with continuously variable adaptive damping system.
As mentioned earlier, there are currently three versions of the R1S available, each with a different powertrain.
The Dual Standard AWD has, unsurprisingly, dual motors (one at the front and one at the rear) which make a combined 397kW/827Nm. That’s enough for it to launch 0-60mph (0-96km/h) in just 4.5 seconds. The R1S Dual AWD has the same power, torque and acceleration figures, however it gets Rivian’s Large battery, which we’ll detail below.
The Tri-Motor AWD obviously has three motors, one on the front axle and two on the rear, which naturally provide more power, 633kW/1495Nm. With so much power and torque the Tri-motor is wickedly fast, taking just 2.9 seconds to launch 0-60mph.
If, for some reason, the Tri-Motor isn’t fast enough for you, Rivian has released the details on the Quad-Motor. It will have two motors on each axle providing a staggering 764kW (that’s 1025-horsepower!) and 1624Nm, enough to rocket it from 0-60mph in just 2.6 seconds and across the quarter mile in 10.5 seconds.
The good news is that the lithium-ion battery pack size rises from 95kWh to 114kWh, and is accompanied by faster DC charging capability, due to a jump from 150kW to 170kW.
While far from the class best, this cuts down charging times by a considerable margin.
The claimed driving range is 454km, while average consumption is a disappointing 25.6kWh/100km. The Q8 e-tron’s trip computer during our run in it recorded a mid-to-high 20s readout, by the way.
Rivian offers three different battery types across the three variants, each with a different driving range. The R1S with the Standard battery (92.5kWh) has a claimed 434km driving range, the R1S Dual with Large battery (109.4kWh) extends that to 530km, while the Tri-Motor comes standard with the Max battery (141.5kWh) that has an impressive 597km of range.
It is worth noting, though, that those range claims are based on US EPA estimates, rather than either the WLTP or NEDC methods usually used.
Charging times vary depending on the type of charger used, in the US Tesla has given access to its network to other EV brands and the Rivian is available with a plug adaptor to use a Tesla charger. The R1S is capable of charging up to 220kW, which means it takes approximately 40 minutes to take the battery from 10 to 80 per cent.
For decades, Audi used the advertising tagline ‘Vorsprung durch Technik’ – which means Progress through Technology in its native German – to highlight how advanced its vehicles are.
So, how has the Q8 e-tron advanced over its predecessor?
Right from the get-go, there’s so much to dig about the electric Audi SUV, especially if you’re new to luxury EVs.
To start with, it’s as quiet as you’d expect, even by luxury brand standards. As the Audi accelerates, the sense of momentum is somewhat masked by how refined and civilised your progress is.
Watch that, though. You could get a speeding fine more easily than you expect!
Anyway, with 664Nm of torque coming on instantly, there’s certainly no shortage of it, backed up by enough muscle for effortless and instantaneous overtaking. This sort of motoring can become highly addictive.
Similarly, a low centre of gravity, combined with a beautifully modulated electric power steering and the quattro AWD set-up, provides pleasing agility combined with reassuring roadholding. Even when you’re pressing on, the Q8 e-tron corners and grip with confidence and control.
So far, so good. Especially considering the air suspension is further cushioning your sense of speed, with excellent bump absorption for an isolated ride.
That’s on the standard 20-inch alloys spec. Riding on the larger wheels, there is a bit more firmness, as well as some road-noise intrusion.
Plus, it doesn’t take long to realise the Q8 e-tron is a very heavy vehicle. Though undeniably quick and athletic, changing directions in a hurry means that the SUV can feel a bit unwieldy.
Throttle response at higher velocities can seem a little muted and, over certain crests and humps when travelling fast, there is a sense that the driver really needs to have their wits about them.
Best to take it a bit easier, then, and enjoy the serenity the Audi EV SUV delivers in more typical and restrained travelling scenarios.
There is so much that the Q8 e-tron brings, and driving it normally really does reveal a sophisticated, comfortable, dependable and high-quality grand-touring experience.
Push a bit harder, though, and some cracks show up.
The R1S and R1T are Rivian’s first mass-produced cars, and it shows. It’s not all bad news by any stretch, but there are some major issues the brand will need to address in the future if it wants to succeed globally (or even just in the US).
The biggest issue is the ride, which just doesn’t feel as well resolved as the more established brands that have been designing, developing and building cars for decades. The R1S isn’t bad to drive by any stretch, but the ride is too firm at times and it also lacks control and feels too soft at others.
All R1S grades come standard with Air Suspension that has multiple levels of firmness and can adjust the ride height. However, in the ‘normal’ setting the ride feels too busy, with the heavy (3096kg) SUV skittering over the imperfections in the road rather than absorbing them. The problem is, if you adjust the suspension to the softer setting it lacks control and has a tendency to bounce over bigger bumps and take a few seconds to settle. This was particularly noticeable on LA’s concrete freeways, but it would be an issue on any road with undulations or joints.
But while the ride needs improvement, the R1S has strengths in other areas - namely performance. The Tri-motor AWD we sampled had immense punch from its three motors and it certainly felt like 633kW and 1495Nm was on tap. We didn’t test its acceleration claim officially, but any take-off could be made into a rapid one with just a squeeze of the accelerator pedal.
The R1S is also capable of towing up to 3500kg, so it’s a strong and capable SUV too, rather than just a speedy EV.
Another strength is the regenerative braking system. There are multiple settings but we found the lowest regen was the best option, as it still provides powerful regen but is more progressive than the more powerful modes.
Tested way back in 2019 but updated in September, 2023, the e-tron/Q8 e-tron range scored a maximum five-star ANCAP crash-test rating.
There is no shortage of safety equipment – with passive and active, driver-assist-heavy technologies designed to avoid an accident, with full surround-view cameras also providing an extra level of security.
Standard kit includes Audi’s 'Pre-Sense front' and 'Pre-Sense rear', offering AEB, cross-traffic alert and active lane-keep assistance tech, as well as adaptive cruise control with full stop/go, eight airbags (dual front as well as side and curtain airbags for all outboard occupants), hill-descent control, anti-lock brakes, electronic brake-force distribution, brake-assist, electronic stability control, traction control and tyre pressure monitors.
The AEB system can detect pedestrians and cyclists between 10km/h and 85km/h, and even at night, while for other motor vehicles that increases to 250km/h (an upper velocity more relevant for the coming SQ8 e-tron). The active lane warning operations is from 65-250km/h.
Both outboard rear seats feature ISOFIX child-seat latches, along with three top tethers for straps.
The R1S comes loaded with safety equipment across the range, including eight airbags, adaptive cruise control, autonomous emergency braking, blind spot monitoring, forward collision warning, lane departure warning, lane keeping assist and rear cross-traffic alert.
It also comes with what’s called the ‘Rivian Autonomy Platform’ that includes 11 cameras and 12 ultrasonic sensors for mild-autonomous functionality in specific circumstances, such as freeway driving or on well-marked roads.
Audi provides a five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty as well as six-years’ worth of free roadside assistance, which is nothing unusual these days, while the battery warranty is eight years or 160,000km.
The first six years of scheduled servicing is free, too. Intervals are every two years/30,000km (whichever comes first).
Plus, owners also receive six years of complimentary access to Chargefox’s network.
Rivian offers a four-year/80,000km warranty for the R1S vehicle as a whole, as well as a separate battery pack and drivetrain specifically. The Standard battery is covered for eight years/190,000km while the Large and Max batteries are covered for eight years/240,000km.
As for servicing, Rivian uses an app-based system, which allows owners to schedule a service at any time via the app and then either have a Rivian technician come to your home for a small service or drop it off at a service centre if it’s a bigger job. The app is also connected to the car, so if the car’s own diagnostic system recognises a problem, it can prompt you to book a service proactively.