What's the difference?
It was the moment the Golf grew up. Just over 20 years ago Volkswagen unveiled a fire-breathing R32 variant to top the fourth-gen line-up of its already iconic hatch. With a growling atmo V6 engine, proper Haldex-based all-wheel drive, fat rubber and a pumped-up body, it instantly became the brand’s performance flagship.
And another four Golf generations later an updated ‘8.5’ version of its current ancestor, the Golf R has arrived. An equally focused, heavy-hitting AWD with just over 30 per cent more torque and close to 40 per cent more power than that snarling, original R32.
CarsGuide was invited to its local launch, including a suitably challenging drive program on road and track. So, stay with us to see if this exceedingly hot hatch can earn a spot on your performance five-door short list.
Remember those extra-long Australian luxury sedans like the Ford Fairlane and Holden Statesman/Caprice?
The patriotic choice in an era where that mattered and further protected by tariffs on imports that made them barely any more expensive than a base mid-sized Euro like a BMW 318i, they dominated the top end of the market with their sheer size outside, vast space inside and big-six or V8 grunt.
Like they used to say, there is no substitute for cubic inches.
Well, the spirit of these beloved local social-climbing classics lives on in just one modern car in 2025, the Genesis G80. Over three generations since 2008, it has been Hyundai’s tilt at the premium establishment, in much the same way as the Fairlane and Caprice were, and Toyota’s Lexus luxury brand still is.
We take a dive into the latest petrol-powered range-topper version, the 3.5T All-Wheel Drive (AWD) Sport Luxury (SL), which gives off more than its fair share of vintage HSV Grange vibes.
While some Golf enthusiasts will prefer the lighter, more nimble, front-wheel drive GTI, this Golf R is now an even more serious machine.
It’s a great touring car, super-sharp in the corners and good value in the context of its competitive set. Cars like Toyota’s GR Corolla and Honda’s Civic Type-R are on notice.
Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with travel, accommodation and meals provided.
Overall, then, the flagship G80 tries to be docile Clark Kent and the amazing Superman in one. As such, it stretches itself trying to be both a luxury GT and high-functioning sports sedan.
But while it doesn’t quite achieve either perfectly the Genesis gets near enough for most – especially at its exceptional price point.
In terms of exterior design, at the front there’s a relatively mild cosmetic makeover with some changes to the headlights and the bumper as well as a horizontal line across the grille, which, along with the VW roundel, is illuminated.
From the side the ride height is 20mm lower, and cosmetically there are matt silver housings on the exterior mirrors, blue calipers behind new design 19-inch rims and in the centre of the wheel there’s an R logo rather than the traditional VW branding.
At the back, you’ve got new customisable LED tail-light clusters with welcome and goodbye effects, which can be programmed via the vehicle settings in the multimedia system, as well as a larger spoiler at the back of the roof on top of the tailgate.
Inside, the ‘big’ change is an appreciably larger central multimedia screen running new program software. It has physical touch bars along its lower edge for audio volume and climate control adjustment.
The driver’s display now includes a G-meter and GPS lap timing. The steering wheel has its own look and feel and the sports seats feature integrated headrests. There are alloy covers on the pedals and ‘Carbon Grey’ decorative inlays around the dash and doors.
It’s a classically restrained and subtly sporty design treatment inside and out.
Australia never saw the original 'BH'-series Genesis, which was created primarily with US buyers in mind to be a 5 Series alternative at a 3 Series price, complete with rear-wheel drive and advanced chassis dynamics.
Hyundai spun the series off as a stand-alone brand in the mid-2010s within the second-gen 'DH' Genesis’ run (that did include Australia) from 2015, which is when the G80 badge arrived, while the 'RG3' redesign you see here launched in 2020.
What you’re seeing here, then, is a facelift of a half-decade-old design, and doesn’t it give off Bentley vibes? From that blocky nose with its latticed grille to the sleek profile, the five-metre long by two-metre wide G80 passes for a Continental GT wannabe. Particularly in SL guise. And a convincing one at that.
When it comes to the interior, look around. A 27-inch OLED touchscreen takes in the crisp digital instrumentation and slick multimedia displays.
We like the configurable widgets that come complete with pictures for instant recognition, and the fact that Genesis decided to put an equally-user-friendly climate-control screen below, so eyes never need to leave the road once you quickly learn where all the switchgear is.
For reference, the Golf R is just under 4.3m long, close to 1.8m wide and a bit less than 1.5m tall with a 2630mm wheelbase. Right in the middle of the medium hatch footprint.
In the front there’s plenty of breathing room for the driver and co-pilot. And in terms of practicality, you’ve got big bins in the doors with room for large bottles. There’s also a box between the seats with a lid that doubles as an armrest, which also adjusts for height and length, which is nice.
If you need more, there are two cupholders in the centre console, one of which is adjustable for smaller cups, plus a long oddments tray as well as a more powerful ventilated wireless device charging tray at the front end of the console.
There’s also a decent glove box and two USB-C ports for power and connectivity.
In the back, sitting behind the driver’s seat set for my 183cm position, I have ample headroom, legroom and more than enough foot room.
That said, three abreast for full-size adults would be very squeezy. Even a trio of middle teenagers might find it a bit tight. Best as a two-seater in the rear.
Then for storage, you’ve got big bins with room for bottles. Fold down the armrest and you’ve got not one, not two, but three different size cupholders in it.
There’s a nifty double pocket set-up on the front seatbacks, each just right for a phone or hand-held game console, as well as a more conventional map pocket lower down.
There are individual ventilation outlets as well as climate control for the rear section, plus two USB-C outlets.
With the 60/40 split-folding rear seat upright the 8.5 Golf R boasts 341 litres (VDA) of boot volume, which is decent, and that number expands to nearly 1197 litres with the seat down.
There’s a load-through hatch, tie-down anchors, a 12-volt outlet, multiple bag hooks, specific lighting and storage compartments to the side.
No spare of any description, however, with a repair/inflator kit your only option.
Size may not be everything, some say, but it sure says a lot when a medium-sized luxury sedan is long enough to swing it with some large Germans. And in this case, the impressive dimensions are enhanced by a three-metre-plus wheelbase.
Behind the soft-close doors, you’re met with a cabin defined by the luxury of space and isolation from the outside world – just what you’d expect from a full-sized flagship sedan. There’s room to stretch in all five seats.
Plus, in the SL, the seats and chunky steering wheel silently whirr out of the way for easier entry and egress, before sliding back to their previous-memory positions.
The front seats are among the best we’ve experienced in a long time, holding and caressing in all the right places. Switching drive modes increases bolstering and/or support, whilst longer thighs will appreciate the extendable ottoman feature. Hot/cold control and a prodding massage function further enhances the users’ pleasure.
As in all Hyundai products the digital instrumentation and media touchscreen are paragons of simplicity and clarity.
Actual knobs for audio, tuning, fan and temperature controls flank these, along with buttons for 'Home', 'Menu', 'Driving Modes', 'Cameras' and parking sensors.
So thoughtful, so easy. Even vision isn’t too bad, aided of course by the surround-views available. This is quite an unintimidating vehicle to judge when parking despite its length.
Issues? The gear selector is the circular variety Jaguar debuted with the original XF during the late 2000s and is a bit clumsy to use; sited in prime console real estate, the cupholder lid is set-up for left-hand drive, meaning it provides a (minor) obstacle for the driver when open; the test car’s carbon-fibre-look trim won’t be to everybody’s taste and there’s no walk-to/away automatic central locking.
Meanwhile, the rear seat is in the spirit of a true limo.
Wide doors allow for easy entry/egress, revealing impressive levels of space for shoulders, hips, knees and feet (though headroom might be a mite tight for taller dos due to the sunroof). The left-side rear occupant can re-position the seat in front automatically to boost legroom even more.
Airliner premium-economy class-style backrest reclination is included. And you can sink yourself or your loose digits into the tactile and aromatic bliss of the perforated Nappa leather, thick pile carpet, suede trimmed pillars and ceiling and quality textures, further upping the luxury ante.
The large folding armrest facilitates access to heating/ventilation, audio, a sunblind, cupholders, phone chargers, USB-C ports and hidden storage.
The fortunate rear-seat passengers also face air vents and a separate climate control panel from the front-seat riders. So decadent. This was clearly designed for chauffer opulence and it shows. Very difficult to fault.
But further back, it isn’t so bountiful. Literally.
The pleasingly plush boot measures in at a smallish 424 litres, and that’s almost 100L down on a 520i’s. And while it comes with a ski or 'Bunnings port', simple folding backrests would have been more practical, particularly for car reviewers who occasionally need to transport their bicycle.
Oh well, that’s what SUVs are for.
The space-saver spare, in lieu of the hated tyre repair kit, is welcome, though. Thank you.
The new Golf R is priced at $70,990, before on-road costs, which is a $500 bump from the version it supersedes. A new limited run Black Edition model, the details of which we’ll get to shortly, weighs in at $72,490.
At that money the Golf R lines up against a diverse group of properly hot hatches like the related Audi S3 ($78,800), Honda Civic Type R ($74,100), Lexus LBX Morizo RR ($76,490), Mini JCW ($56,990) and the Toyota GR Corolla ($70,490). Even higher-priced outliers like the BMW M135 xDrive ($83,600) and Mercedes-AMG A35 4Matic ($87,900).
So, the heat is on, and at 70-odd kay it’s fair to expect a decent basket of standard fruit. Aside from the performance and safety tech covered later the Golf R features list includes auto LED matrix headlights, LED tail-lights, Nappa leather-appointed trim, a leather-trimmed steering wheel, heated and ventilated front seats, three-zone climate control, 14-way electric driver’s seat (with memory), 480W nine-speaker Harman Kardon audio (including digital radio), a 12.9-inch multimedia screen (with built-in nav) and a 10.2-inch digital instrument display.
There’s also keyless entry and start, 30-colour ambient lighting, adaptive cruise, a head-up display, wireless Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, auto rain-sensing wipers, surround lighting, a (more powerful) ventilated wireless charging pad, a 360-degree overhead view, ‘Park Assist Plus’, metallic paint, fog lights and 19-inch alloy rims.
Not bad at all in the context of this category.
VW Australia has also announced an optional ‘Warmenau Package’ for the standard R - named after the location of the R division’s headquarters in Wolfsburg - for $6500 bundling up 19-inch forged alloy wheels (developed in-house by Volkswagen R, reducing the weight of each wheel by 8.0kg or 20 per cent), carbon interior trim elements and an ‘R-Performance’ titanium exhaust system from Akrapovič.
Limited to 300 examples, the Black Edition features dark accents throughout, including the wheels, badges, mirror housings, brake calipers and tailpipes, as well as darkened headlights and the lighter 19-inch forged alloys. It’s available in all three Golf R colours - ‘Pure White’, ‘Grenadill Black’ and ’Lapiz Blue’.
That HSV Grange analogy is pretty close to what the G80 3.5T AWD SL from $121,200 (all prices are before on-road costs) represents, and not just in dimensions and performance.
Adjusted for inflation, a 2015 Grange from $86,990 would equate to about $115,300 today, which nestles in neatly between the ‘base’ G80 2.5T rear-driver from $104,200 and 3.5T AWD SL.
And, like the big Holdens and Fords of yesteryear, the Genesis annihilates the German luxury sedan triumvirate for value for money as well as bang for your buck, when you consider what the competition is at its price point: Audi A6 45 TFSI quattro S Line from $122,415, BMW 520i from $114,900 and Mercedes-Benz E200 from $117,900.
Nowadays, even the entry-level Euro grades are pretty well specified, but all have 2.0-litre, four-cylinder, turbo-petrol engines of between 150kW and 180kW outputs and two-wheel drive, against the Genesis’ 279kW 3.5-litre V6 twin-turbo and AWD.
And then there’s the SL equipment levels, that includes everything you’d expect from a machine that is built like a Lexus, behaves like a BMW and wants to be as bourgeois as an S-Class Benz, with powered, electric and wireless everything.
It’s easier to list what’s missing: namely, walk-away door locking.
Still, listing some of the standout features is editorially required, so the SL’s lucky occupants can indulge in a heated front console armrest complete with UV-C sanitisation, a real-time concierge service with a five-year subscription included, a fingerprint recognition system for extra security (freeing society from a key!), a powered rear-window shade and the quietness that active noise-cancellation brings. And all are new with the MY25 facelift.
More opulence comes in the form of Nappa quilted leather upholstery, surround-view monitors, 18-way powered/heated/vented/memory front seats with massaging and ottoman extenders, powered reclining/vented/heated rear outboard seats with (manual) sun-blinds, tri-zone climate functionality with rear-seat controls, front and rear wireless smartphone chargers, 18-speaker Bang & Olufsen audio (with epic sound), soft-close doors, suede headlining, a panoramic sunroof with powered blind, solar-controlled glass, a powered boot lid with valet mode and remote-control parking.
We are pretty sure you won’t find this combination of gear in your entry-level German sedans at the 3.5T’s price point.
Genesis has also crammed in as much active and passive safety as possible. More on that in detail later on.
Note that there is also an all-electric G80 Signature Electrified AWD version from $155,000, making it the series’ true flagship.
Successive federal governments in Australia with their Luxury Car Tax have made this sort of vehicle a questionable value proposition as it balloons their prices, but within the context of what else is available, the G80 makes for a brave and bold alternative to formidable yet predictable alternatives.
This updated Golf R is powered by a 2.0-litre, four-cylinder turbo-petrol engine VW enthusiasts around the world know by its ‘EA888’ code name.
In this guise it now produces close to 245kW (+10kW) and 420Nm (+20Nm) with the maximum available across a broad plateau from 2100 to 5500rpm.
The 2.0L EA888 features a cast iron block and alloy head, with direct-injection, water-cooled exhaust gas routing to the turbo (in the cylinder head) and variable valve timing with double camshaft control.
Power goes to all four wheels via a seven-speed dual-clutch auto transmission and an all-wheel-drive system using a twin-clutch pack to manage front-to-rear drive distribution as well as torque across the rear axle.
As the alphanumerics suggest, the G80 3.5T AWD is powered by a 3.5-litre twin-turbo V6 petrol engine, producing a hefty 279kW of power at 5800rpm and 530Nm of torque between 1300-4500rpm.
Tipping the scales at 2095kg (kerb), the SL’s power-to-weight ratio is 133kW/tonne.
Drive is sent to all four wheels via an eight-speed torque-converter automatic transmission. 'Normal', 'Sport' and 'Eco' modes are fitted.
VW is proud to point out that thanks to an electronic coolant regulator unit, the Golf R’s 2.0L engine “features very efficient thermal management with a short warm-up phase” which it says reduces friction losses for better fuel consumption.
Its official combined cycle (urban/extra-urban) fuel economy figure is 8.3L/100km, which isn’t out of order for a hot rod hatch with this much performance potential.
Over the course of a 200km-plus road drive on the launch program, covering mainly twisting B-road and highway sections, we saw a dash-indicated average of 9.9L/100km.
With a 55-litre tank those figures translate to a theoretical range of around 660km, and a real-world number closer to 550km between fills.
Here is where the G80 has all four wheels rooted more in the past than in the future.
With no electrification of any variety (hybrid, in other words), high fuel consumption is always going to be the real price paid by going for a Euro-5 spec twin-turbo V6 weighing some 2100kg.
The official combined average figure is 11 litres per 100km, for a corresponding carbon-dioxide emissions rating of 250 grams/km. On the highway that drops to 7.9L/100km and soars to 16.3L/100km in the city cycle.
With a 73L fuel tank, that combined average number means a driver can expect around 660km of range between refills of 95 RON premium petrol, though Genesis says this G80 will also run on E10 ethanol blend.
Now, our trip computer said that we averaged less than the official figure, at just 9.7L/100km, but our pump-to-pump testing ended up being 11.4L/100km. Which isn’t that bad.
The Golf R weighs in at 1517kg and Volkswagen says it will accelerate from 0-100km/h in 4.6sec, which is quick, and the car’s broad torque band makes it super-usable. The maximum 420Nm is available from 2100rpm all the way to 5500rpm.
A blue ‘R’ button on the steering wheel is your short-cut access point to various modes - ‘Eco’, ‘Comfort’, ‘Sport’, ‘Sport+’ and ‘Race’ - and in the racier settings what VW calls ‘Turbo Pre-load’ steps in. More or less an anti-lag set-up for smoother power delivery.
Even from low revs in a (manually-selected) high gear, squeeze the throttle and it quickly builds up a head of steam. Power delivery is impressively linear.
The transmission is super slick and manual shifts are rapid. Refreshingly, manual mode is exactly what it says on the tin. Select a gear with the wheel-mounted paddles and it will stay in that ratio until the rev limiter makes its stuttering presence felt.
And if you’re going into a corner under brakes just keep the left-hand paddle pulled in and the transmission will automatically cycle down to the lowest ratio available, which is handy if you’ve really got the bit between your teeth.
Even with the standard exhaust, once you’ve dialled up the sporty modes, you get that snap, crackle and pop on full-bore upshifts and on the over-run, which also enhances the experience.
Suspension is by struts at the front and multi-links at the rear, and the ‘Adaptive Chassis Control’ system monitors acceleration, braking and steering to fine-tune the set-up.
We drove on some rough B-road sections, in the wet, and the R remained surprisingly refined. Given how hard it grips and how much it communicates back through the seat of the pants it is a comfortable touring car. It’s like a GT in hatch form, eating up the kilometres without fuss or putting too much stress on the driver.
Worth noting we spent much of our time in ‘Nürburgring’ mode, accessed through the Race menu, which, no surprise, was developed on the famous Nordschleife. It’s tuned to optimise dynamic performance on undulating patchy surfaces and is a superb set-up sweet spot for the road and track.
Progressive ratio steering delivers good road feel without too many jitters coming up to your hands. And turn-in is precise without being jagged. Just point the car and it goes exactly where you want it to.
The drive system splits torque between the front and rear axles and across the rear. If, for example, it senses the car wants to turn more but might push into understeer, it calmly manages drive distribution to keep everything under control.
Tyres are Bridgestone Potenza S005 (235/35) and over even coarse chip surfaces they remain quiet and grip with admirable determination.
Braking is by ventilated discs all around and on twisting backroads we occasionally leant on them hard and they were well up to the task. A firm pedal with progressive application when getting on or easing off the brakes.
They even stood up to a race circuit pressure test without raising a sweat, because day two of the launch included a track session at Sydney Motorsport Park. And we can confirm the car is properly fast, balanced and predictable in that environment.
SMP’s dipping, then uphill, off-camber right-hand turn four highlighted the R’s grip and the sophistication of its torque vectoring set-up. We also went sliding on the skid pan in the car’s Drift mode, which biases the rear axle, and is huge fun.
In terms of lower speed manoeuvring, you’ve got a 12-metre turning circle, which isn’t vast but isn’t tiny, so be ready for that.
You’ve also got a 360-degree overhead view, which is very handy in tight spots. And if you want some extra support, ‘Park Assist Plus’ will help you slot the car into the space you’re aiming for.
Under the heading of miscellaneous observations, the sports front seats deliver solid lateral support yet remain comfortable over long periods behind the wheel.
Speaking of the wheel, it’s just the right thickness, with perforated leather at the quarter-to-three positions helping with that lovely connection to the front tyres.
As well, from an ergonomic point-of-view, working through the central multimedia screen and driver’s display is straight-forward, with the latter able to be configured via the steering wheel.
The Genesis G80 3.5T AWD SL drives in a similar way to the big brutish American-inspired Caprice and HSV Grange V8s, in that it delivers effortless, lazy performance with a sophisticated twist.
No slouch off the line even in Eco mode, the twin-turbo V6 leaps into action if you’re heavy on the throttle in Comfort mode, hunkering down as the speed piles on quickly.
With 'Launch Control', the claimed 0-100km/h sprint time is 4.9 seconds, though in regular mode it is rated at 5.1s on the way to a top speed of 250km/h.
And while the enhanced exhaust orchestrates a nice warble from behind, it remains a strong, smooth and silent performer.
The AWD system is RWD-biased and is continuously variable according to prevailing conditions, performance and grip.
The SL also features an electronic limited-slip differential for better traction and grip, as well as rear-wheel steering that either counter-steers the rear wheels in relation to the front ones for a tighter turning circle (11.8m) or parallel steers them for “enhanced steering responsiveness and stability at high speed.”
Selecting 'Sport' or 'Sport+' is met with distinctly more-urgent responses, with the transmission holding on to ratios as the revs approach the red line, which can be annoying around town.
It’s quite surprising – and probably a good thing – that the beautifully balanced and connected steering can be light and easy when you’re relaxed, and yet hefty to the point of feeling heavy when you’re really on it. Likewise, the brakes in 'Comfort' are pleasantly progressive. In 'Brake Sport' they’re fiercely responsive.
Note that, in Sport+ with the safeties off, the SL's tail can become very playful indeed, even in bone-dry conditions.
Suspension is via multi-links at both ends of the car, whilst the SL grade includes what Genesis calls “Road Preview Electronic Control Suspension (ECS)”, that scans the road ahead and then adjusts the adaptive dampers for better ride comfort.
That all said, the Genesis’ sheer size and weight keep it from feeling like an out-and-out sports sedan. The speed and AWD grip is there - tyres are Michelin Pilot Sport 4S (245/40 fr - 275/35 rr) - and the handling results in some pretty astounding agility for one so large, but the steering connection, balance and alacrity are more about confidence and competence than light-footed athleticism.
This is no cut-price BMW M5. But HSV Grange owners might recognise something in its muscular good manners.
And what of the SL’s four-wheel steering? It provides a degree of tuck-in at speed which can catch out the unaware driver, though of course, it is also a boon for round-town manoeuvrability. The tight turning circle that ensues is incredible for one so long.
Ultimately, though, it is a large and heavy sedan that never quite stops feeling that way. It won’t shrink around you despite being an easy and rewarding car to drive.
Out in the wet, the AWD contributes to the G80’s squatted-down attitude, feeling impervious to prevailing external conditions.
But it’s also not quite the sumptuous luxury liner that, say, a Mercedes S450 is.
Very civilised on smooth roads, with a decent level of absorption from the multi-link suspension, the G80 struggles a little with smaller-frequency bumps at times, but then does a great job smothering the larger ones. It is certainly within the luxury sedan expectations for refinement, isolation and ride comfort, but just not the best.
If you stick with freeways and highways, this thing will bring years of civilised pleasure and punchy performance. It is a rapid yet relaxed grand touring family cruiser.
The current Golf range picked up a maximum five-star ANCAP assessment in 2022 and VW’s ‘IQ Drive’ driver assistance tech package includes highway speed auto emergency braking (AEB) with cyclist and pedestrian detection as well as junction assist, adaptive cruise control (with stop and go), intersection assist auto-braking, low-speed manoeuvre braking, lane keeping assist, lane-departure warning, blind-spot monitoring, rear cross-traffic alert, driver fatigue monitoring and tyre pressure monitoring,
The airbag count runs to nine - dual front, front and rear side, side curtain and a front centre bag. Then multi-collision brake minimises the chances of subsequent impacts after an initial crash. And as the name implies ‘Emergency Assist’ will take control to slow the car if the driver becomes unresponsive.
There are three top tethers for child seats across the second row, with ISOFIX anchors on the two outer positions.
The Genesis G80 scored a maximum five-star ANCAP assessment all the way back in December 2020, though this figure does not cover the 3.5T model as tested by us.
Along with 10 airbags (including front-centre and driver’s knee protection), it is fitted with a wide variety of advanced driver assist systems (ADAS).
These include 'Autonomous Emergency Braking' (AEB) with forward-collision avoidance (taking in car/pedestrian/cyclist as well as junction turning/crossing detection), lane-keep assist, lane-change and evasive steering assist, rear cross-traffic alert, blind-spot warning/collision avoidance, traffic-sign recognition, adaptive cruise control, parking collision avoidance, safe-exit alert, surround-view monitors, driver-attention warning, traffic-sign recognition and auto high beams.
There are also two ISOFIX child-seat fixtures and a trio of child-seat anchorage points in the back seat.
The Golf R is covered by Volkswagen Australia’s five-year/unlimited km warranty, which is a match for most mainstream brands, although an increasing number are nudging up to seven and even 10 years.
There’s also a 12-year corrosion perforation warranty, which is a plus, and the recommended maintenance interval is 12 months/15,000km with ‘Assured Service’ pricing averaging $840 per workshop visit over the first five years.
Three- or five-year pre-paid ‘Care Plans’ reduce that number, with the latter working out to an average of $658 per service. Far from over the top for a performance hatch like this one.
The Genesis G80 comes with a five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty, five years of what it calls 'premium' roadside assistance (increased to 10 years if serviced at a Genesis dealer) and five years/75,000km of free servicing. Service intervals are every 12 months or 15,000km.
While these are about on-par with most brands, it is behind better mainstream warranty and aftersales services, which are seven, and in a few cases, 10 years in length.