What's the difference?
There is nothing quite like a car company occasionally building a car that could be considered a risk. And there are all kinds of risks in the car business - the market isn't ready for that car, people don't identify your brand with this or that type of vehicle, the list goes on. And it's long. It's very easy for me to sit on the sidelines and say, "Pft, what were they thinking?" Few cars land on your driveway without years of thinking having already gone into their development.
The Kia Stinger is the kind of car that would have caused lots of thinking and plenty of hand-wringing at Kia HQ in Korea. Not because it was a bad idea - it wasn't. Not because it's a bad car - it is, in fact, the opposite. And not because SUVs have already changed the way we look at cars - Kia has done well out of that.
It's just that Kia has never produced a car like the Stinger. A five-door coupe-sedan, rear-wheel drive and with a focus on driver dynamics. Most of us know very well how the Stinger GT burst on to the scene in a blaze of well-deserved glory. It's not all about the GT, though. There's a whole range of Stingers and just below that very accomplished sports sedan is the Stinger GT-Line.
Hyundai is reaching for new heights with the Ioniq 9. And I don't just mean that literally – though it's certainly true that this three-row electric SUV is an absolute giant of a vehicle. I mean because it's also the most expensive car, electric or otherwise, to ever wear the Hyundai badge.
With it, Hyundai steps into premium air – the Volvo EX90 starts at around the same money, as does the Audi Q6 e-tron, albeit with fewer seats.
And because Hyundai has only brought in one flagship variant, the Ioniq 9 is also miles above the cheapest Kia EV9. But will its customers rise with it?
Let's find out.
The Stinger GT-Line is a great machine. It looks good, feels good to drive and while it's not the cheapest large sedan, it's also not a Camry. With a strong European vibe, it's a nice bridge between boring-dependable and out-of-reach European. Boasting a strong link to Europe in its chassis DNA, it has it all apart, maybe, from the badge.
But Kia has a habit of doing unexpected things and the Stinger was a bold move worth making just for the halo effect of having such a cool car in the range. It has done good things for the company's reputation, as though the rest of the range isn't proof already.
The Hyundai Ioniq 9 is a big, comfortable and powerful SUV that ticks lots of boxes. Sadly, though, the electric power that makes it such a treat to drive is probably the same thing that will keep it off plenty of shopping lists. For now, at least.
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The Stinger looks fantastic. I know the car has its detractors, but there's a massive Euro influence here that sits well in my visual cortex. It's maybe not as ooh-aah as the A5 or the outgoing BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe, but the Stinger can and should be mentioned in the same breath. It looks terrific, even if it is a bit fussier in the details.
From the signature grille, the low beltline, big wheels and sports coupe roofline, it looks sleek and sophisticated.
Inside is a bit more conventional, with some real classic touches such as circular air vents, conventional-looking gear selector and a flat-bottomed steering wheel. It's cool, clean and, with the big new screen, a bit more techy-looking than before. There are lots of nice materials and the odd rogue one, but it's a good cabin that feels well put-together.
I'm going to sound like a bad football coach here, but the Ioniq 9 is a tale of two halves, at least when it comes to the exterior.
And I mean that literally. The front half is lovely, with a smooth, rounded nose, two stacks of LED lights that build the horizontal on top of the vertical and a clean, modern road presence.
The back half, however, isn't. It took me a while to put my finger on it, but it suddenly dawned on me that it gives off old-school station wagon vibes that, for me at least, don't gel with the rest of the design.
Inside, though, it is a complete picture, with my only complaint that the steering wheel feels a touch too big – though I like it's more minimalist design.
Elsewhere, the materials are lovely to look at and touch – even the dash panel insert that reminds me a bit of snakeskin pants – the seats are comfortable and the tech works well.
One word on the digital wing mirrors, though. They are one cost option I wouldn't be ticking the box for. I find them off-putting, not least because they seem to zoom-in so close to the car behind that you can almost see what part of the people behind's breakfast is residing between their teeth. It feels invasive.
Plus, all you're really doing is swapping a large mirror outside the car for a big screen inside it. Conventional mirrors for the win.
This is really a four-seater car. While there is good legroom in the rear, the falling roofline, small door aperture and huge transmission tunnel box you in a bit, almost rendering the middle seat useless for all but the shortest of folks. You do get your own air vents, though, which is generous.
The low roof also means limited headroom, made a little worse by the standard sunroof. I had room but taller people might brush the headlining. There are two cupholders front and rear for a total of four and each door has a bottle holder.
The boot is a modest-for-this-size 406 litres, rising to 1114 litres with the seats down. Access to the boot is good if not spectacular; the hatch opens wide but a slightly narrow aperture means loading and stowing flat packs and things like that could be a struggle.
It’s a big unit, the Ioniq 9, measuring more than five metres long, just under two metres wide and around 1.8 metres high. Weight is a hefty 2.7 tonnes at its heaviest, too, while braked towing capacity is pegged at 2.5 tonnes.
So, big numbers and a big vehicle with big storage. With all three rows in place, you get 338 litres of boot space. But treat it like a five-seater and that increases to 908 litres. Drop both rows, and you’ll have a massive 2410 litres at your disposal.
The room in the middle row is ample for full-size adults, especially if you tick the box for the cushy six-seat layout, and the rear doors feel massive, so when opened you can step through to the third row with ease, too.
Once in there, you'll find an impressively luxe space. The room isn't ridiculous, but my 175cm got in easily enough, and then fit pretty easily, too. And the addition of USB charge ports, air vents, speakers and an automatic recline function for the third row will lift the mood for whoever you put back there.
As is the custom at this time of the year, the Stinger scored a mild update for that minty-fresh taste at the dealer. Not much has changed in the looks department (good) and the most obvious tweak is the brand-spanking new media system already seen in the brilliant new Sorento.
The GT-Line is one of two four-cylinder variants of the Stinger, priced at $57,230 or $60,690 driveaway, a solid $7000 more than the 200S and it's $730 more than the MY20. It's also uncomfortably close to the 330S, which has the delicious twin-turbo V6, but obviously a lower equipment level.
For your money you get 19-inch alloy wheels, a 15-speaker stereo, dual-zone climate control, camera package that includes a reversing camera, side cameras and front camera, keyless entry and start, front and rear parking sensors, active cruise control, powered heated and ventilated front seats, sat nav, automatic LED headlights, head up display, leather seats and wheel and even more besides. It's a lot, which is fair given the price.
The 15-speaker stereo is run by the excellent new media system on the excellent new 10.25-inch touchscreen. It's great to look at, has some really cool ideas in it (including the hilarious soundscapes list which includes, for some reason, a noisy cafe environment), DAB and Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.
So, we know it's not cheap, the Ioniq 9. In fact, it’s Hyundai’s most expensive car ever, outshining even the bonkers and brilliant Ioniq 5 N.
How much are we talking? Well, you can only get one Ioniq 9 — the flagship Calligraphy trim — and it’s yours for $119,750, before on-road costs.
There are just a couple of options from there, with the six-seat version an extra two thousand bucks, which I know sounds weird, to pay more for less, but you are essentially swapping the three-seat middle row for two more luxurious captain’s chairs. The digital side mirrors, which I hate, will cost you $3000, and matt paint will set you back $1000, or $250 more than the premium paint ask. Tick everything, and your Ioniq 9 is more like $125,000.
As to how many Hyundai will sell, suffice it to say the brand doesn’t expect it to be a huge contributor to its totals, acknowledging the EV market is stagnant and that most EV buyers are upgrading an electric vehicle, rather than stepping out of an ICE vehicle, which makes the purchase pool pretty shallow. Still, Hyundai is on track to sell around 150 of the six-figure Ioniq 5 Ns this year, so there are clearly some EV buyers with deep pockets.
Anyway, you get just about everything Hyundai can throw at a vehicle, including full LED lighting, 21-inch alloys, a big panoramic sunroof and a hands-free powered boot.
Inside, there are real Nappa leather seats, tri-zone climate, heated and ventilated seats in the first and second rows, a heated steering wheel and what Hyundai calls 'premium relaxation' seats up front.
There’s a big multimedia screen with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, a digital dash and a head-up display, a 14-speaker Bose stereo and a total six USB connections. But no vehicle-to-load, which means you forgo the household-style power outlet found in some EVs.
There are also a couple of first for Hyundai, including the ability to load your digital key into your phone’s wallet, meaning you can unlock and drive just using your device, and it’s the first time Hyundai has deployed active noise cancellation, too.
Under the GT-Line's bonnet is Kia's Theta II 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbocharged engine. It's the same as before, with a stout 182kW and 353Nm. Driving the rear wheels is an eight-speed automatic from the Hyundai-Kia empire.
It's pretty rapid, knocking out the 0-100km/h spring in just six seconds, a mere 1.1 seconds slower than its faster sibling's 4.9 for the benchmark.
There's only the one configuration available here, with Australia's Ioniq 9 a dual-motor AWD producing a combined 314kW and 700Nm – the latter ensuring this heavy EV never feels dull or sluggish.
Overseas, our powertrain is called the Ioniq 9 Performance, and it produces the fastest zero to 100km/h time of just 5.2 seconds.
Kia's claimed combined cycle figure is 8.8L/100km. As the Stinger goes without trickery like stop-start or mild hybridness, it's no surprise that my week with it yielded an indicated 10.4L/100km, which isn't bad for a 1750kg sports sedan that was not molly-coddled and also spent some time in a resurgent case of crap traffic in Sydney.
It also drinks standard unleaded, which is a nice touch.
The Hyundai Ioniq 9 is essentially sitting atop a massive 110.3kWh battery, which produces a claimed WLTP driving range of 600km.
Be warned, though, the digital dash has a live read out of your minimum and maximum driving range, presumably judged on your driving inputs, and there is a vast gap between the two numbers. In short, if you want to maximise range, go easy on the accelerator.
Its 800V architecture unlocks 233kW DC fast charging, which the brand says will take you from 10 to 80 per cent charged in 24 minutes.
Plugging in at home, though, will be much slower than that – something like 10 hours using 10.5kW wallbox.
I have driven and loved the Stinger GT. It's tremendous fun, goes like a rat running away from a cut snake, which itself is being chased by a mongoose with its bottom on fire, and it handles like a proper sports sedan.
The GT-Line is obviously not that quick, but it's not slow, either. But it does take a bit of the GT's DNA and delivers a driving experience eerily reminiscent of an E90 BMW 3 Series. That seems like an out-of-date reference, but it was a beautiful car to drive with a lovely balance of ride and handling.
The steering has good feel and you know what's going on underneath the front wheels. You sit towards the centre of the car, also a BMW trademark. Turn the wheel and the car goes with you, despite its bulk, and it's happy to dance a bit with its limited-slip diff.
The 2.0-litre turbo does a good job in most conditions but you feel it coming up short when you're hustling it. It's never breathless, but the torque deficit to the turbo six is clear. If you've not driven the faster Stinger, you may not notice, but there's a touch of lag in the 2.0 that contributes to the idea it's working hard to move the big sedan.
But back off a little and it becomes a fluid, fun drive. In town it's firm but very comfortable, gently bumping rather than crashing into potholes. The rear suspension is a complicated five-link set-up that costs money and eats into boot space but delivers the goods.
Given its length the Stinger is a bit tough to manoeuvre in tight spaces and its 11.2m turning circle isn't too flash either, but you soon get used to it.
It's a proper surprise packet, the Ioniq 9, because you approach it with a pretty good idea of how a big, heavy and equipment-soaked seven-seat SUV is going to behave on a twisting road. Short answer? Not well.
But somehow, through some kind a wizardry, the opposite is true. Rather than feel stupendously big and heavy, the Ioniq 9 shrinks around you, feeling far smaller, more dynamic and more capable than you'd expect.
I'd maybe forgo the tightest of tight switchbacks in favour of more sweeping, undulating bends, but honestly, you can squeeze plenty of fun out of the Ioniq 9 on the right road.
Happily, it's no one-trick pony, either. It's quiet in the cabin, even at freeway speeds, it's comfortable in the city and there's plenty of space and tech on board.
The key take-away here is I like the way Ioniq 9 drives, another big vehicle helped massively by electric motors. Sometimes in big ICE-powered SUVs you can feel just how much work is going into getting them up and moving, but that's not the case here.
Instead, because there are no transmissions or turbochargers to deal with, the Ioniq delivers a rich flow of power and torque every time you push the accelerator. No lag, no whining, it just goes.
But here's the really interesting bit. It almost doesn't matter how good I say this car is, or how well I think it drives, this car will remain a niche seller. And Hyundai's executives seem to know it. And all of that's a shame, because it's really very good on the road, this Ioniq 9.
The Stinger ships with an impressive safety package that includes seven airbags, ABS, stability and traction controls, high- and low-speed forward AEB with pedestrian and cyclist detection, intersection assist, lane-keep assist, steering assist, driver attention alert, high- and low-speed forward collision warning, front cross traffic alert and rear cross traffic alert.
You get two ISOFIX points and three top-tether anchors.
The Stinger scored five ANCAP stars in 2017.
The Ioniq 9 is yet to be assessed by ANCAP, but the results will soon be published for its European test, and the result will be adopted here. Hyundai says it’s shooting for a maximum five stars.
Elsewhere, there are 10 airbags and just about every active safety system you can poke a stick at, all wrapped up in Hyundai’s 'SmartSense' suite of technologies, including the new-for-the-brand 'Highway Driving Assist 2', which acts as a lane-centre 'Smart Cruise Control' but that can also take evasive action should someone swerve into your lane.
Kia's ground-breaking seven year/unlimited kilometre warranty along with roadside assist for the first 12 months. Each time you service your car at Kia, you get an extension on your roadside assist for up to eight years.
Perhaps the only thing that makes you go, "Oh, what?" about the Stinger is the 12 months (Good)/10,000km (Oh...) service intervals. That's pretty common with Kia's turbo engines but is a little inconvenient. Then there's the cost - prices range from $312 to $685, which adds up to $3459 over the first seven services. If you stay under 10,000km/year, that's not bad going at under $500 per year for servicing, but if you're a high-miler, it will add up.
The servicing isn't outrageous - and the prices are capped - but it's not cheap, either.
Five years with unlimited kilometres is still the underwhelming warranty norm at Hyundai. The battery is covered for eight years or 160,000km.
Happily, servicing is infrequent, with intervals pegged at two years or 30,000km. As a result, the first six years of servicing will cost a total $2005, or an average $334 per year.