Porsche Panamera vs Audi S8

What's the difference?

While we didn’t get to sample the full breadth of the range, our time in the base Panamera demonstrated that while it’s the most overlooked member of the Porsche family it might also be the most under-rated.

While it may not be the most spacious luxury sedan it does offer ample space and combines it with performance and handling that’s hard to beat. The price drop should help make it a more appealing prospect, although at nearly $200,000 it’s still clearly a premium prospect for a lucky few.

The S8's existence is a source of joy for me because it's not a huge SUV. Yes, it's a huge sedan but it's a reminder that the technological flagship is alive and well, at least in Germany. And the important thing about these cars is the way the toys filter down through the rest of the range. That used to take years but we're seeing this cool stuff a lot more quickly, right down to the A1.

The S8 punches, and punches hard in this rarefied part of an already shrunken section of the market - the twin-turbo V8 matches its German rivals, it's lighter and it's as well-stacked as any of the three. What it doesn't do, however, is shout about itself the way the other two do.  It's the incognito choice.

When the second generation Panamera arrived in 2017 it was widely praised for its design. The new model allowed Porsche’s stylists to tidy up the somewhat puffy design of the original whilst still retaining a clear family link to the 911.

For this mid-life update Porsche has only made some minor nip and tucks rather than a major facelift. The changes centre around the front end, where the 'Sport Design' package that was optional is now standard across the range. It has different air intakes and larger side cooling openings for a more dynamic look.

At the rear there’s a new light strip that runs across the boot lid to connect to the LED tail-lights, creating a more seamless appearance. 

The Turbo S also gets a unique front end treatment, to further separate it from the previous Turbo. It gets even larger side air intakes that are connected via a body-coloured horizontal element so it stands out from the rest of the range.

Overall it’s hard to fault Porsche’s decision to not meddle in the design too much. The shape of the Panamera, like a stretched 911 in silhouette, has grown on people over time and the changes they made for the second generation, making it tauter and more athletic in appearance, didn’t need change for the sake of change. 

The sheetmetal is obviously very restrained given it's an Audi first, and secondly, it's just not done to go wild in this part of the market.

It's an A6 that's joined a gym, but didn't join that weird gym with men that can't run after you when you insult them (don't ask how I know this). Rolling on 21-inch wheels as standard, you can go up to massive 22s if you so choose.

The A8 created a subtle redirection of Audi's passenger car look, with the updated A4 and A6 both picking up on the horizontal bar between the rear lights and the huge grille framed by family lights with signature DRL patterns. The S8 builds on that with subtle S cues but nothing even vaguely shouty.

The interior acreage - or 'cabin', if you will - is very comfortable, but you already knew that. The multi-screen layout was first seen in the A8 and has now found its way into A7, Q8 and Q7 and is, as ever, brilliant to look at and use.

The MMI updates that have found their way into other cars are present and correct. Like the exterior, it's very restrained but not to the point of sparse minimalism, despite the lack of switches and buttons.

I really don't like the steering wheel, though, and I can't put my finger on why. It certainly isn't especially sporty-looking but I wonder if the standard flat-bottomed S wheel just looked stupid.

The materials are beautiful and everything fits together perfectly.

As the limousine of the Porsche family there’s a big emphasis on space and practicality for the Panamera. But there’s a big difference between a Porsche limo and the rest of the German ‘Big Three’, which is why the Panamera’s closest rivals are the sportier A7/8 Series/CLS and not the bigger A8/7 Series/S-Class. 

The Panamera isn’t small, stretching more than 5.0m in length, but because of its 911-inspired sloping roofline rear headroom is compromised. Adults under 180cm (5' 11") will be comfortable but anyone taller may find their heads bumping the roof.

The Panamera is available as both a four- and five-seater, but in a practical sense it would be hard to carry five. The rear middle seat is technically available with a seatbelt but heavily compromised by the rear air-vents and tray that sit on the transmission tunnel and effectively remove anywhere to put your legs.

On the plus side, the outboard rear seats are excellent sports buckets, so they offer great support when the driver exploits the Panamera’s sporty chassis.

This only applies to the standard wheelbase model, the Executive adds 150mm to its wheelbase which primarily helps create some more rear legroom. But we didn’t get a chance to test that for ourselves on this initial launch drive, so we can’t verify Porsche’s claims.

Those in the front get excellent sports seats across the range, offering lateral support whilst still being comfortable.

The cabin is clearly built with rear seat passengers in mind, with rear leg and headroom configured for those continent-crossing drives.

The S8 has plenty of comfort for two rear seat passengers and a few amusing options to while away the hours in traffic or on the autobahn.

That doesn't mean the front seat passengers are in purgatory, with huge but supportive seats adjustable in all conceivable directions.

Front and rear rows score a pair of cupholders and bottle holders while the boot is a handy, if not awe-inspiring, 505 litres.

For $260,000 there is a lot to get through, as there is on the less sporty A8. Start with huge 21-inch alloys, 17-speaker Bang & Olufsen stereo, panoramic sunroof, matrix LED headlights with laser lights, soft-close doors, acoustic glazing, leather trim, S front seats, extra leather over the A8, Alcantara headlining, carbon inlays, four-zone climate control, heated and cooled front seats, 'Virtual Cockpit' with S mode, and a tyre repair kit.

You also get active suspension, a sport version of the 'quattro' all-wheel drive system (with a sport differential), and a walloping great twin-turbo V8 to get you moving.

A massive touchscreen on the centre stack (familiar in Q8, A7 and Q7) hosts Audi's 'MMI plus' system, which is very good and does away with the console-mounted rotary controller. It also has wireless Apple CarPlay to go with the console-bin wireless charging pad. Android Auto is still USB. 'Audi Connect plus', now in full-featured glory, is also along for the ride.

Another technical highlight is the active noise cancelling which is meant to reduce the noise in the cabin the same way noise cancelling headphones do.

There's a clever rear seat remote control, which is a little detachable tablet to allow those who are being chauffered to faff around with various settings.

Our car had the $13,900 'Sensory Package', which adds a 1820-watt B&O 3D sound system with 23 speakers, electrically adjustable outer rear seats along with heating, cooling and massage function, and full leather.

As mentioned earlier there’s a smorgasbord of powertrains for the Panamera range with a variety of V6 turbo, V8 turbo and hybrid variants of both to choose from.

The entry-level model, known simply as Panamera, gets the 2.9-litre twin-turbo V6 making 243kW/450Nm and paired to an eight-speed dual-clutch transmission and sending drive to the rear-wheels. 

Step up to the Panamera 4, 4 Executive and 4 Sport Turismo and you get the same engine and transmission but all-wheel drive.

The Panamera 4 E-Hybrid range (which includes Executive and Sport Turismo) has the same 2.9-litre twin-turbo V6 but adds a 100kW electric motor. 

That means a combined system output of 340kW/700Nm, driving through the same eight-speed dual-clutch and all-wheel drive system as the non-hybrid variants.

The Panamera 4S E-Hybrid gets an upgraded 17.9kWh battery, replacing the old model’s 14.1kWh version. It also gets a more powerful version of the 2.9-litre V6, tuned to make 324kW, which ups the total output to 412kW/750Nm; again with the eight-speed dual-clutch and all-wheel drive. 

The Panamera GTS uses the brand’s 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8 engine, tuned to make 353kW/620Nm, also with the eight-speed ‘box and all-wheel drive. 

The Turbo S uses the same engine but it gets a new tune to bump performance to 463kW/820Nm; that’s a 59kW/50Nm increase over the old model’s Turbo, hence Porsche’s justification in adding the ‘S’ to this new version.

And if that’s still not enough grunt, the Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid adds the 100kW electric motor to the 4.0-litre V8 and the combination produces 515kW/870Nm.

Interestingly, despite the extra power and torque, the Turbo S E-Hybrid isn’t the fastest accelerating Panamera. The lighter Turbo S does the 0-100km/h sprint in 3.1 seconds, while the Hybrid takes 3.2 seconds. 

However, the 4S E-Hybrid does manage to out-accelerate the GTS despite using the V6 engine, taking just 3.7 seconds compared to the 3.9 seconds it takes the V8-powered GTS.

But even the entry-level Panamera still does a very rapid 5.6 second 0-100km/h dash, so none of the range can be called slow.

Under that long bonnet is a 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8 pumping out 420kW and a diesel-like 800Nm of torque. 

That's a lot, even for this big bruiser. Obviously, being an Audi S-car, it has quattro all-wheel drive, which is fed by an eight-speed ZF automatic. Which is in everything now. Well, just about.

That huge torque figure is available between 2000rpm and 4500rpm while peak power arrives at 6000rpm. The 0-100km/h sprint is despatched in - gulp - 3.8 seconds.

As it's riding on the MLB platform, the mild hybrid system is a 48-volt set-up. A lithium-ion battery in the boot takes charge from the belt alternator/starter, which means the S8 can coast at higher speeds with the engine off and also cut out at 22km/h and under in traffic.

The system can also add up to 60Nm of torque in the right conditions for up to six seconds, and if it happened for me, I didn't notice it.

We didn’t get a chance to test all the variants and run the numbers against Porsche’s claims. Again, in an unsurprising development the hugely diverse range of powertrains leads to a wide spread of fuel economy numbers. 

The leader of the pack is the 4 E-Hybrid which uses just 2.6 litres per 100km, according to the company, just ahead of the 4S E-Hybrid with a 2.7L/100km claim. Despite all of its performance the Turbo S E-Hybrid still manages to return a claimed 3.2L/100km.

The entry-level Panamera we spent the majority of the time in uses a claimed 9.2L/100km. The Panamera GTS is the least-efficient, with a claimed 11.7L/100km return, which puts it ahead of the Turbo S and its 11.6L/100km figure.

The 10.5L/100km official figure is, shall we say, optimistic. The launch drive was mostly highway so there's no real information to be gleaned from that, so we'll have to wait for real world fuel figures.

I'd say 12-13L/100km is achievable if you don't like having fun, in which case, the lesser A8 is probably for you.

Audi says the MHEV system saves 0.8L/100km with an early cut-out for the stop-start and the ability to coast on the highway for over half a minute at a time.

This is where the Panamera really excels. With every vehicle it builds, Porsche works to make it drive as close to a sports car as possible, even if it's an SUV or, in this case, a large, luxury sedan.

Although Porsche has an extensive range, our test drive was primarily focused on the entry-level model. That’s no bad thing as it’s likely to be the biggest seller in the range, but also because it’s an excellent example of a sports sedan done well.

It may be the first rung on the ladder, but the Panamera doesn’t feel like it's basic or missing anything important. The engine is a gem, the chassis is well sorted and the standard equipment level of Australian models is higher than average.

The 2.9-litre V6 twin-turbo makes a nice noise, a melodious V6 burble, and delivers plenty of punch when needed. Even though it tips the scales at more than 1800kg the V6 with its 450Nm of torque helps punch it out of corners with intent.

The corners is where the Panamera really shines. Even by the highest sports sedan standards the Panamera is a class-leader thanks to all of Porsche’s decades of know-how being poured into its development.

Point the Panamera at a bend and the nose responds with the kind of precision you expect from a sports car. 

The steering provides accuracy and loads of feedback, so you can place the car accurately despite its size. 

You do notice its size and weight as you get into the middle of the corner, but that’s no different from any of its rivals as you can’t fight physics. But for a luxury sports sedan, the Panamera is a star.

To add another layer to its appeal, the Panamera rides with excellent poise and comfort despite its sporting nature. 

Often sports sedans tend to focus too much on handling and stiffer suspension settings at the expense of ride comfort, but Porsche has managed to strike a great balance between the two seemingly opposing characteristics.

Driving any of the cars in this segment is a rare treat, whether it's the 'entry level' diesel or this top of the heap sports sedan. My day with the S8 was filled with the usual surprise and delight that only these tech-packed cars can deliver.

Heading out of the Sydney CBD in 'Comfort' mode, the car scans the road ahead and adjusts the active suspension accordingly. You already know it has active suspension because when you pull the door handle, the car lifts by 50mm to make it a bit easier to get in.

The suspension's party trick is flat-topped speed bumps - drive at one, brake a little and sense the way the body feels like it stays exactly where it is in the air but the suspension almost completely flattens the speed hump.

It's uncanny and almost unnatural, with just the tiniest change in altitude and no noise from the suspension.

It also manages the terrible narrow lanes of CBD thoroughfares with ease, the lane keep system letting you know if you're straying.

On to the motorway and you get a feel for its crushing performance. You won't hear much, though - the stereo's noise-cancelling system shuts out almost all tyre noise and consistent wind noise is largely banished, too.

I'm going to admit I gasped when I found some corners. Active suspension bodes well for the tricky stuff, as does the all-wheel steering. Both are exceptionally clever systems for making the car feel a lot smaller in town and in car parks but they're also really good if you want some fun.

But the way the rear-wheel steer adds agility to such a big car is hilarious and clever. While you can't quite chuck it around - and really, you're not buying an A8-sized car for that kind of nonsense - brisk progress is far from intimidating.

Now, obviously, a Ford Fiesta would drive away from the S8 in the really tight stuff but it would take some time to properly shake it. The colossal torque from the V8 hurls even this two-tonne-plus limo out of the corners in a most satisfactory manner.

It's surprisingly agile for a machine more than five metres long and two metres wide. If your passengers are corner enthusiasts, you'll all be having fun in near silence. It's oddly engaging to be moving at pace in such a hushed cabin.

The S8's considerable safety equipment list includes nine airbags, ABS, stability and traction controls, forward AEB (up to 250km/h), reverse cross-traffic alert, lane departure warning, various collision mitigation and protection systems, exit warning, lane keep assist, active cruise control and on, and on, and on.

The rear seat's centre airbag is terribly clever, popping up between passengers to stop you knocking heads. Another clever trick is the way the car detects a side impact is about to happen, boosting the height of the side about to cop it to try and get the sills to take more of the impact, rather than the door.

Given the relatively niche status of the A8, let alone the S8, there is no ANCAP crash test or safety rating. One imagines given the ton of safety gear a five star rating is all but assured. Even the US IIHS gave the A8 a miss.

Service intervals are annually or every 15,000km (whichever comes first) for routine oil changes, with every second year a more significant inspection. 

Prices vary state-to-state due to different labour costs, but as an indication Victorian residents pay $695 for the annual oil change, while the inspection costs $995. 

There are other notable charges you should factor in, including brake fluid every two years for $270, while every four years you need to change spark plugs, transmission oil and air filters which add up to an extra $2129, on top of the $995.

The Panamera is covered by Porsche’s typical three-year warranty/unlimited kilometre, which used to be the industry standard but is increasingly becoming less typical.

Audi continues to fail to match Mercedes move to a five year warranty, sticking with three year/unlimited kilometre cover. BMW is still doing it too, so maybe Ingolstadt and Munich are playing chicken. 

You can get a five-year service plan for the S8, coming out at $3990 for the duration.