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Everything you need to know about the Mercedes-AMG G 63's personality pokes out from underneath the polished alloy steps running down each of its flanks. Side pipes… no one does side pipes.
A colleague was pulled over in a G 63 because the cops thought the '60s muscle car-style exhaust was after-market and illegal. But it's not, and it's brilliant.
Launched globally in early 2018, this brutal take on the second-generation Mercedes-Benz G-Class might look the same as the G 63 it replaces, but under the skin it's a whole new ballgame.
The first-gen was like grandpa's axe, regularly updated but underneath it all the same basic framework. This is a whole new axe, including a fresh drivetrain, suspension set-up and interior treatment.
Sales figures show Australian buyers are moving away from pure internal combustion engine power for their family cars. Instead they’re looking for hybrid, plug-in hybrid and electric models.
While a number of brands - mostly newer manufacturers from China - are going down the plug-in hybrid route, others are focusing on regular or 'plugless' hybrids. Think models like the GWM Haval H6, Hyundai Tucson, Kia Sportage, MG HS and Toyota RAV4.
KGM (formerly SsangYong) is also headed down this path and the first hybrid model from the Korean carmaker is the Torres.
The Torres is a mid-sized five-seat SUV with unusual, rugged looks, but it hasn’t had an impact on the sales charts as yet. This hybrid version could change that. It’s affordable, spacious and offers a serious point of difference from its compatriots, as well as rivals from China and Japan.
But is it as good as those popular rivals?
The Mercedes-AMG G 63 isn't for shrinking violets. It's bold, fast, and loud, and in second-generation form massively improved dynamically and technically. It's a lot of money, but there's a lot to love, and here's hoping it stays around for decades to come.
The KGM Torres Hybrid represents yet another choice for buyers in the family SUV segment, as if there aren’t already enough! But the Torres offers a level of value its mainstream competitors can’t match. The hybrid powertrain is a winner, however KGM needs to iron out a few issues, like tyre choice and the advanced driver assist tech. But there is a lot to like about the Torres Hybrid. And it’s definitely the pick over the pure petrol version.
The original (W460) G-Glass, then known as the G-Wagen (or Geländewagen for cross-country vehicle), was launched in 1979 as an ultra-capable off-roader, soon favoured by armies the world over. Arriving here in 1982, its distinctive, slab-sided form remained unchanged over the best part of four decades.
At close to 4.8m nose-to-tail, more than 1.8m across, and a bit over 1.9m tall, the G 63 is now longer (+110mm), wider (+106mm), and fractionally lower overall (-13mm), but still pulls off a convincing impersonation of a bread box.
Merc-AMG confidently quotes a drag coefficient (Cd) of 0.55 for the G 63, which isn't as bad as a brick (around 2.0… I Googled it) although it is in the same league as a heavy truck.
But it's the car's unique, upright stance, complete with pumped wheelarches and old-school flat glass, that sets it apart and draws people in. Looking more like a take-no-prisoners, functional device than a luxury cruiser, I can assure you it attracts as many admiring looks and comments as a low-flying supercar wedge.
The new-gen G 63 features AMG's vertically slatted 'Panamericana' grille, and our test example was fitted with the optional 'Night Package' ($5900) adding a range of dark exterior details including tinted indicator lenses, dark tinted glass, black exterior mirror shells and spare wheel ring, other black trim pieces and painted areas, as well as 22-inch AMG forged alloy rims.
Also worth noting, Merc has retained the G-Class's solid metal door handles, complete with the mechanism's unmistakable 'click-clack' opening and closing sound. Nice touch.
Inside, the biggest change is the upgrade from a conventional dual-gauge instrument cluster and central media stack to a pair of 12.3-inch digital screens, forming a sleek widescreen display, and bringing the G 63 in line with other recent Merc offerings.
Similarly, the gearshift moves from a traditional console-mounted set-up to Merc's 'Direct Select' lever on the steering column (exactly where the indicator stalk is located in 90 per cent of right-hand drive cars). And the standard flat-bottom, leather-trimmed 'AMG Performance' steering wheel is a racy addition.
Like the exterior door handles, another tip of the hat to the car's heritage is retention of the horizontal grab handle ahead of the front passenger on the dash above the glove box. Nice to have something to hold on to if the going gets rough.
What a curious thing the KGM Torres is. It has typical medium SUV proportions but with over-the-top styling designed to give the impression of a rugged off-roader. But this is no off-roader.
It has a Jeep-like slotted grille, faux winch hook in the lower grille, squared-off wheel arches, a boxy shape and weird grab mounts on the bonnet that serve no discernible purpose.
It also has what appears to be a rear-mounted spare wheel with a side-opening tailgate. But it’s all an illusion. It’s just a chunky addition to the tailgate which opens upwards, like a regular SUV boot.
If you discount the fake 4x4 bits, the Torres is quite a handsome SUV, especially from the front. The grille surrounded by cool integrated LED headlights makes for a nice front end.
The tail-lights sit a little low at the rear, and the pointlessly massive C-pillar is a bit much. But there are some appealing elements.
Inside, there’s a bit of a nod to fellow Korean brands Hyundai and Kia with the dual 12.3-inch multimedia and driver display screens.
There are no buttons to be found on the console and centre stack so it’s a clean look. The screens and air vents are angled towards the driver, too.
Bronze is a feature throughout and it breaks up the dash nicely, as does the ambient lighting. Matching stitching is a lovely visual touch on the nicely patterned cloth seats.
It doesn’t look or feel like a base model. It definitely feels a step up from the Korando and the Musso in KGM’s stable, as well as some rivals.
The G-Class has never been a particularly squeezy proposition for passengers or cargo, but an extra 40mm in the wheelbase adds even more breathing space.
Getting in is the first step, and it's a big one. At 183cm tall, in an athletic mood, I could grab the A-pillar and swing up into the driver's seat in one vaguely respectable movement.
But, those side steps aren't just for show, and at the end of a long day provide a handy staging camp between terra firma and the lofty pilot's chair.
Once on-board there's plenty of room up front, with adequate storage including a bin between the seats (now with a double door opening rather than a single hinged lid), a modest glove box, oddments space and two cupholders in the centre console, and bins with space for bottles in the doors.
There's a 12-volt power outlet in the front, second row and cargo area, while there are two USB ports in the centre console bin and a charging USB port in the second row.
In the back I could have donned a dusty Akubra and still had headroom to spare, with generous foot room, and a substantial gap between my knees and the driver's seat (set to my position).
A fold-down armrest incorporates a pair of cupholders (as well as a through-port to the cargo space for long items) and there are map pockets on the front seat backs as well as space for bottles in the doors. Two adjustable air vents in the rear of the front centre console, and another pair in the B-pillars also provide climate-controlled air to those in the rear.
With the rear seats upright boot volume is quoted at 454 litres (VDA); enough to easily swallow our three-piece hard suitcase set (35, 68 and 105 litres) or the CarsGuide pram, or a largest-suitcase-and-pram combo.
There are tie-down shackles in each corner of the floor, usefully bright lighting, a netted storage area on the passenger side (containing five fluorescent emergency vests), and folding the 60/40 split rear seat liberates even more space.
Unfortunately, gaining access to that load space is fraught with compromise. First, the single-piece rear door hinges vertically and opens from right to left. No problem when you've nosed into a shopping centre space, but not so great when you're parking nose-to-tail on the left-hand side of the road.
That means you typically have a small space between you and the car behind to get the door open, and when it is at 90 degrees, you're blocked from unloading things onto the footpath until you've shut the door.
As well as that, the door has a full-size spare (alloy) wheel and tyre attached to it. Good because a full-size spare is welcome, and bad because it makes the already bulky door even heavier.
Those keen on towing things will be pleased to hear the G 63 is rated to haul up to 3.5 tonnes of braked trailer and 750kg unbraked.
The KGM Torres Hybrid sits at the smaller end of the medium SUV set, but it still offers decent levels of space throughout, especially when it comes to headroom.
Storage is something KGM gets right with the Torres. The centre console has an armrest with large under-lid storage. There are a couple of good sized cupholders and a small slot for the phone to sit in, however it’s not super deep so it’s better for keys.
Further under the console is a large tray and two USB-C ports, plus another smaller shelf just above. There’s heaps of space in the doors for two bottles, plus additional space. And the glove box can hold the vehicle manual.
When it comes to in-car tech it’s a bit of a mixed bag. The multimedia screen takes way too long to boot up, especially when it’s hot. Which is not great because you need the screen to crank the air-con as most vehicle functions are housed in the screen. That display delay also frustrates if you want to reverse immediately after turning the car on, meaning sometimes there’s no camera display for a few seconds. It’s just not good enough by today’s standards.
The system is fine in terms of navigation and menus but not super intuitive. Swipe down for drive modes ('Comfort', 'Sport' and 'Eco'), plus some quick access options. You can always swipe down even when Apple CarPlay is active.
You can also hit the fan from left of screen to open the air con settings.
As mentioned, there’s no digital radio and no wireless Apple CarPlay. Also no wireless charger in the K30. Having to use a cord can be a pain but at least it means flawless CarPlay connection and a properly charged phone - something most charging pads fail to achieve.
The digital Instrument cluster is clear enough, but there is no head-up display.
Steering wheel controls are clearly labeled on the lovely looking thin-rimmed, four-spoke wheel.
In the back seat you’ll find ample leg, knee and toe room. There’s plenty of space behind my 183cm driving position. The rear bench is flat so there’s not as much side support as the lovely front seats.
That rear space has quite a high window line so small kids may struggle to see out.
Amenities back there include two map pockets, rear knee-level air vents, two USB-C ports, ISOFIX anchors on the two outboard seats, three top tether points and enough room in the doors for one big and one small bottle.
You get 465 litres of space (to the top of the seat back) with all seats in place. It is ample space for luggage or a big shopping haul. Drop the 60/40 split-fold rear seats and the front seats and that grows to 1526L.
You’ll find a 12-volt outlet in the boot as well as nooks on the side, a light and a cargo blind. What you won’t find, disappointingly, is a spare wheel of any kind. Just a tyre repair kit. This puts KGM behind the pace of brands like Toyota and Hyundai that at least offer a temporary spare wheel for their hybrid models.
Another quirk is adjusting to the tailgate opening upwards, not sideways as the rear 'handle' suggests.
Okay, you're laying down a quarter of a million bucks ($247,329 before on-road costs) and it's fair to expect some serious tech and standard equipment to keep you feeling warm and fuzzy after you're finished impressing friends and family with the G 63's howling acceleration.
For a start, there's a bunch of leading-edge safety tech on-board (detailed in the safety section below), and as expected that substantial cost-of-entry brings an extensive list of luxury features.
We've touched on the twin 12.3-inch 'Widescreen Cockpit', and available media includes digital radio and TV tuner, internet connectivity and 3D nav (with dynamic route guidance), as well as smartphone integration with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.
Audio is a thumping 15-speaker, and 590-watt Burmester surround sound system, and the ambient lighting set-up offers a choice of 64 colours.
Also included are 'Multibeam' LED headlights, 'AMG Ride Control' adaptive damping, a 'Parking Package' with 'Active Parking Assist' and 360 camera, a sliding glass sunroof (with tilt function), the selectable AMG sports exhaust system, keyless entry and start, the AMG Performance steering wheel (trimmed in nappa leather), and 21-inch AMG '5-Twin spoke' alloy wheels.
Then there are the three 100 per cent differential locks (plus an 'off-road information centre'), electronically adjustable front seats (ventilated front and heated front and outer rear), steering column and mirrors (with memory function), three-zone climate control, nappa leather upholstery, a leather-finished dashboard with open-pore ash wood trim, a 'Dinamica' microfibre roof liner, and an AMG-specific IWC design analogue clock. Plus, the 'Dynamic Select' system enables a choice of pre-set driving profiles or individual settings.
The optional 'Exclusive Interior Plus Package' ($10,300) fitted to 'our' car adds deluxe nappa hide on the dashboard, door centre panels and grab handle, as well as a diamond quilted treatment on the seat centres, a black 'Dinamica' roof liner, velour floor mats (with edging in nappa leather), a frameless interior mirror and air vents in 'Silvershadow'.
On top of that the test vehicle was optioned with the 'Night Package' ($5900) detailed in the Design section, and Designo 'diamond white bright' paint ($5900) for a manufacturer's recommended list price (MRLP) of $269,429.
That puts the G 63 in the same price and equipment ballpark as the supercharged V8 Range Rover Autobiography ($268,900), twin-turbo V8 Porsche Cayenne Turbo ($239,400), and its Mercedes-AMG GLS 63 sibling ($221,729), powered by a version of the 5.5-litre twin-turbo V8 used in the first-gen G 63.
An impressive trio of alternatives, but in reality the idiosyncratic G 63 doesn't have any direct competitors, and for those who give in to the pull of its powerful tractor beams value-for-money becomes a uniquely personal concept.
The hybrid version of the Torres is available in two model grades, the K30 from $45,000 drive-away and the K40 at $48,000. We tested the K30 Hybrid.
The non-hybrid turbo-petrol Torres is available in three grades and ranges from $38,000 to $47,000. There’s also a fully-electric Torres called the EVX that costs $58,000. Keep an eye out for our review of the EV in the coming weeks.
In terms of other hybrid rivals, the Torres lines up against the GWM Haval H6 ($40,990-$47,990, drive-away) and MG HS ($42,990-$46,990, d/a). Some more established models have more hybrid grades, like the Hyundai Tucson, Kia Sportage, Nissan X-Trail and Subaru Forester but they creep up dangerously close to $60K for the priciest grade.
KGM offers solid value for money across its model range and that’s definitely the case with the Torres Hybrid. The standard features list is healthy without being jaw-droppingly generous.
In the K30 you get 18-inch alloy wheels, LED headlights and daytime running lights, dual-zone climate control, interior ambient lighting, leather steering wheel, heated, power-adjustable and power-folding door mirrors and rain-sensing wipers.
It also has dual 12.3-inch screens, one for driver instrumentation and the other for multimedia, wired Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, a retractable cargo blind, fabric seats, manual adjust front seats, six-speaker audio and USB-C ports.
It misses out on digital radio and the lack of wireless connectivity is a miss.
The K40 adds synthetic leather front seats, heated seats, a heated steering wheel, rear sunblinds, a hands-free power tailgate and auto up-down front power windows.
The Torres Hybrid also has a lengthy standard safety features list, but more on that in the Safety section below.
The G 63's 4.0-litre (M177) all-alloy V8 is closed deck design using direct-injection and a pair of twin-scroll turbos to produce 430kW at 6000rpm and no less than 850Nm from 2500-3500rpm. That's 10kW/90Nm more than the 5.5-litre twin-turbo V8 it replaces!
To improve throttle response and optimise efficiency, the turbos are located inside the engine's 'V', improving air flow and shortening the distance from the exhaust side to the turbos, and in turn, from the turbos to the inlet side.
And the housings on the twin-scroll turbos are divided into two parallel flow channels connecting with separate ducts in the exhaust manifold, allowing fine management of the exhaust gas coming in and pressure going out. Result is more torque and even better response times.
Drive goes to all four wheels via a new 'AMG Speedshift' nine-speed, dual-clutch auto (replacing the previous seven-speed auto transmission) with paddle shifters and a multiple downshift function which will go to the lowest ratio possible as you keep squeezing the shift paddle.
The 'AMG Performance 4Matic' all wheel drive system is front/rear biased 40/60 (50/50 in the previous model), although if you want to head off-highway the G 63 still features three 100 per cent diff locks and low-range off-road gear reduction.
Powering the KGM Torres Hybrid is a 110kW/220Nm 1.5-litre, four-cylinder turbo-petrol engine paired with a permanent magnet synchronous motor delivering 130kW/300Nm, for a combined power output of 150kW. KGM does not provide an overall torque figure but clearly pulling power is healthy.
It also has a 1.8kWh lithium iron phosphate battery as part of its hybrid set-up. As mentioned. this is not a plug-in.
That’s a little less than the Hyundai Tucson (172kW) and GWM Haval H6 (179kW) hybrids, but more than the Honda CR-V (135kW).
It uses a ‘dedicated hybrid transmission’ and drives the front wheels only.
Claimed fuel economy for the combined (ADR 81/02 - urban, extra-urban) cycle is 13.1L/100km, with the 4.0-litre, twin-turbo V8 emitting 299g/km of CO2 in the process.
Despite the fact cylinder management tech means the engine will run on four cylinders under light load, and start-stop (with 'glide mode') is standard, we managed 16.7L/100km (measured at the bowser) over a mix of city, suburban and freeway running. To be expected for such a big bus, especially one that constantly tempts you into squeezing the throttle just to hear the exhaust bellow.
Minimum fuel requirement is 98 RON premium unleaded, and you'll need 100 litres of it to fill the tank.
KGM says the Torres Hybrid consumes 5.6 litres per 100 kilometres on the combined (urban/extra-urban) cycle. After a week of mixed urban and freeway driving I recorded a figure of 7.0L/100km. Not bad, but it could be better.
The Torres’s Euro 6 powerplant uses 95 RON premium fuel and taking into account the 50-litre fuel tank, you could theoretically get a total driving range of about 890km.
Let's cut to the chase. The G 63's pure grunt overpowers its challenging aero profile to thrust this boom box on wheels from 0-100km/h in a claimed 4.5 seconds. And believe it or not, despite its greater length and width, it has enough power to punch a 240km/h hole in the air (maximum velocity is limited to 220km/h if you choose not to opt for the 'AMG Driver's Package').
The new electronic architecture brings with it the latest version of Merc's 'Dynamic Select' system with five driving modes adjusting the engine, transmission, suspension, steering and assistance systems right up to maximum attack Sport+ mode.
All 850Nm of peak torque is available between 2500-3500rpm and pinning the throttle anywhere in that band feels like lining up a runway and preparing to rotate for take-off.
The two-stage exhaust flap arrangement allows you to turn the noise up from growl to roar even at modest around town speeds, and the nine-speed transmission is sharp and positive, with the multiple downshift function (in manual mode) hilariously good fun.
The racy AMG sports seats are as grippy as they are comfortable, and the fat 295/40 Goodyear Eagle F1 rubber, wrapped around the optional 22-inch forged alloys, does a good job of keeping all that mass and momentum in control as the high riding G 63 careens around corners.
And speaking of mass, the job of hauling it from warp speed to rest sits with big ventilated discs all around (cross-drilled 400mm front/370mm rear), clamped by monster six piston calipers at the front and single piston at the back. They're progressive and reassuringly powerful.
So, the performance is as dramatic as ever, but when I think of previous Merc-AMG G-Class offerings, two main shortcomings come to mind... steering and ride.
The steering was like a laggy mouse, with a few beats separating input at the wheel from response at the front treads. And the damping came up short, with a bouncy ride par for the course.
Still sitting on a ladder-type frame, the new G's suspension was developed by Mercedes-Benz and Mercedes-AMG. And finally, it has a decent double-wishbone independent front-end, with a rigid axle at the rear and coil springs all around. Plus, a strut tower brace, Merc-AMG calls it a 'suspension bridge', now connects the front strut towers, increasing torsional rigidity.
Ride comfort, especially in the most compliant 'Ride Control' suspension setting and riding on the big 22s, is massively better. It's no limo. You'll still feel jittering over higher frequency imperfections. But it's way, way ahead of the first-gen version.
The steering system changes from a recirculating ball to rack and pinion, and is now variable ratio with electro-mechanical rather than purely hydraulic assistance. And it's also much improved. We're not talking about a Lotus Elise-style connection with the road, but the steering is clearly more predictable and responsive.
One thing that hasn't changed is an ocean liner-worthy, 13.6m turning circle. You'll need to plan ahead for U-turns and reverse parks, but enough parking cameras (including surround view) to please Cecil B DeMille are on hand to help.
It's like a whole new world with a familiar cover wrapped around a markedly improved package. But (there must be a but) visibility is still compromised by thick window and door pillars, and despite the new dash layout ergonomic efficiency is patchy, with some switches and knobs located in relatively awkward positions.
As mentioned earlier the G 63 features three 100 per cent diff locks and low-range off-road gear reduction. But forget breakover angles and wading depths. This 4x4 seeing off-road action is as likely as an Abbott 2.0 prime ministership.
Suffice it to say, this car wears the 'Schöckl' badge at the base of its B-pillar. And in case you were wondering, Schöckl is a 1445m mountain in Graz, the Austrian city where the G-Class is built (and big Arnie Schwarzenegger was born!).
In the second-gen G-Class's development, prototypes covered roughly 2000km over a five kay trail including gradients of up to 60 per cent and lateral inclines up to 40 per cent. So, despite its irrelevance, the off-highway box is ticked.
While this might be CarsGuide’s first time behind the wheel of the KGM Torres Hybrid, we have driven the petrol version. Andrew Chesterton lived with one for three months. You can read his take on it here.
As predicted by Chesto, the hybrid powertrain does sort out some of the issues with the pure petrol version. Regular acceleration is smooth and lacks any of the jerkiness experienced in the pure-combustion model, thanks in part to the hybrid transmission.
There is, however, tyre squeal when you give it a boot full. That could be fixed with better tyres than the 225/60R18 Nexen Roadian GTX rubber on the hybrid grades. There was also axle tramp when I tested the Torres under hard acceleration.
The transition between petrol and electric power is seamless. Only when pushed hard up a hill does the petrol engine sound a little rough.
Of the three drive modes - Comfort, Eco and Sport - the latter only adds mild spice. Best stick with Comfort.
The Torres Hybrid’s brakes are strong and lack the spongeyness of some hybrids. It has regenerative braking which just feels weird in a hybrid. I kept it at a lower setting as a result.
It steers nicely, offering a good amount of feel and it’s sharp without overdoing it.
I noticed some light vibration through the steering wheel on coarse chip and uneven roads. But the cabin is well insulated and relatively quiet. A particularly windy Melbourne spring day was the only thing that unsettled the peace in the cabin.
Suspension is MacPherson strut up front and multi-link at the rear and in terms of handling, there’s subtle lean in corners but it feels pretty hunkered down for a family SUV. More so than a number of its rivals.
The Torres Hybrid’s ride quality is variable, depending on the road quality. On some average roads, it handles better than others. You’ll definitely notice sizeable ruts, but there’s little to complain about in urban settings.
In terms of visibility, the C-pillar is way too big. I get that it’s a design element but that, combined with the tiny rear third-quarter windows, make a head check all but useless.
The second-gen G 63 hasn't been assessed by ANCAP or Euro NCAP but its new electronic architecture brings the car up to speed on active safety tech, now incorporating 'Distronic' cruise control with 'Active Distance Assist', 'Active Brake Assist', AEB (forward and reverse), 'Active Lane Keeping Assist', 'Blind Spot Assist', 'Adaptive High-Beam Assist', tyre pressure monitoring, and 'Traffic Sign Assist'. Plus, the 'Pre-Safe' system prepares the vehicle and occupants in the face of an inevitable collision.
And once that impact has occurred, you're protected by nine airbags, including rear seat airbags, full-length curtains and a driver's knee bag.
There are three top tether points for child restraints/seats across the back seat, with ISOFIX anchors in the two outer positions.
The Torres has not been tested by ANCAP for a crash safety rating, but it comes with a long list of safety gear as standard.
Hybrid grades get autonomous emergency braking (AEB), adaptive cruise control, lane keep assist and lane departure warning, forward collision warning, driver attention alert, multi-collision braking, trailer stability assist and front and rear parking sensors.
Disappointingly the K30 misses out on a rear cross-traffic alert, blind spot warning and lane change-collision warning that are all standard in the K40.
It comes with eight airbags including a front centre bag to help avoid injury in a side collision.
On the road, some of the driver aids need improving.
The seatbelt warning is annoying, beeping loudly until you put your belt on. I could not find a way to change that in the settings.
The driver attention alert pops up every so often with a coffee icon and audible alert. The alert stays on for way too long and is annoying.
Adaptive cruise is pretty smooth, slowing and speeding up at just the right time and speed.
The lane keeping aid is twitchy and tugs at the wheel too much. It’s not as bad as systems from some other carmakers but it needs further calibration.
There’s no self-steering function, just the lane keep and you can’t alter the level of that system. You can turn it off and just use the lane departure warning which is what I did.
Mercedes-Benz (and by extension Mercedes-AMG) offers a three-year/unlimited km warranty with 24 hour 'Road Care' emergency roadside assistance provide for three years.
Servicing is recommended every 12 months/20,000km and a capped price servicing plan is available at Silver and Platinum levels for up to five years/100,000km.
KGM covers the Torres with its seven-year, unlimited kilometre warranty and the high-voltage battery is backed by seven-year, 150,000km cover.
Servicing is recommended every 12 months or 10,000km, whichever occurs first. The category standard is every 15,000km. KGM's service pricing is available for the first seven years with prices ranging from $349 to $454. Over that seven years it should cost $2758, which is not bad.
KGM’s dealer network consists of 65 sales and service outlets across the country, with a number in regional and rural Australia.