Honda Odyssey vs Hyundai Ioniq 9

What's the difference?

The Honda Odyssey isn’t a bad choice for those looking to ferry around a large gaggle of people, but its far from the best option.

The first two rows are great and are supremely comfortable for those four occupants, but third-row usage will depend on how much those passengers are susceptible to motion sickness.

However, the Odyssey’s biggest weakness might be its sluggish engine and mundane CVT, with rivals like the new Kia Carnival and even Toyota Prius V offering better performance and better economy, respectively.

Still, the Honda Odyssey, and people movers in general, remain a solid option for those that don’t want another SUV or value the practicality and space afforded.

The Hyundai Ioniq 9 is a big, comfortable and powerful SUV that ticks lots of boxes. Sadly, though, the electric power that makes it such a treat to drive is probably the same thing that will keep it off plenty of shopping lists. For now, at least.

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Gone are the days where people movers could be considered daggy or uncool. No, please, don’t click away, we’re serious!

The 2021 Honda Odyssey features a new front grille, bumper and headlights that combine for a much more imposing and aggressive front fascia.

The chrome highlights look especially good against the 'Obsidian Blue' paintwork of our test car, at least to our eyes, and between this and the new Kia Carnival, people movers might just be cool again.

In profile, the 17-inch wheels do look a little small next to the massive doors and huge panels, but they do feature a funky two-tone look.

The chrome touches also follow along the Odyssey’s flanks and are found in the door handles and window surrounds to break things up a bit.

From the rear, the Odyssey’s large dimensions are hard to hide, but Honda has tried to jazz things up with a roof-mounted rear spoiler and more chrome around the tail-lights and rear fog light surrounds.

Overall, the Odyssey looks handsome and confident without straying into the ‘trying too hard’ or ‘over the top’ territory, and if anything, at least it’s not another high-riding SUV, which are quickly overtaking streets and car parks the world over.

Step inside and the Odyssey’s layout is nothing special, but gets the job done.

The first- and second-row seats are plush and comfortable, while the dashboard also features woodgrain touches to lift the interior ambience.

The 8.0-inch multimedia screen sit proudly in the centre stack, while the shifter is on the dashboard to maximum interior space.

I'm going to sound like a bad football coach here, but the Ioniq 9 is a tale of two halves, at least when it comes to the exterior.

And I mean that literally. The front half is lovely, with a smooth, rounded nose, two stacks of LED lights that build the horizontal on top of the vertical and a clean, modern road presence.

The back half, however, isn't. It took me a while to put my finger on it, but it suddenly dawned on me that it gives off old-school station wagon vibes that, for me at least, don't gel with the rest of the design.

Inside, though, it is a complete picture, with my only complaint that the steering wheel feels a touch too big – though I like it's more minimalist design.

Elsewhere, the materials are lovely to look at and touch – even the dash panel insert that reminds me a bit of snakeskin pants – the seats are comfortable and the tech works well.

One word on the digital wing mirrors, though. They are one cost option I wouldn't be ticking the box for. I find them off-putting, not least because they seem to zoom-in so close to the car behind that you can almost see what part of the people behind's breakfast is residing between their teeth. It feels invasive.

Plus, all you're really doing is swapping a large mirror outside the car for a big screen inside it. Conventional mirrors for the win.

Measuring 4855mm long, 1820mm wide, 1710mm tall and with a 2900mm wheelbase, the Honda Odyssey is not just an imposing behemoth on the outside, but also a spacious and practical people mover on the inside.

Up front, occupants are treated to plush and comfortable seats with electronic adjustment and individual fold-down armrests.

Storage options abound, with deep door pockets, a dual-chamber glove box, and a tricked-out centre storage console that can retract into the centre stack and features two hidden cupholders.

Because of the compact engine and transmission package, and the fact the centre console tucks away, there is actually just empty space between the two front occupants, which is a missed opportunity.

Maybe Honda could have put another storage bin there, or even a cooled box for chilled drinks on long road trips. Either way it’s a notable, unexploited cavity.

The second-row seats are probably the place to be in the Odyssey, though, with its two captain’s chairs offering supreme comfort.

Adjustability is also plentiful, with forward/backwards, recline and even left/right positioning available.

However, while there are cupholders and roof-mounted climate controls present, there really isn’t much else to keep second-row occupants, well, occupied.

Would be nice to see some charging ports or even entertainment screens to keep kids and adults placated on long journeys, but at least the head, shoulder, and legroom is generous.

In the third row, it’s a tighter squeeze, but I managed to get my 183cm (6'0") frame comfortable.

The three-row bench is the least comfy place to be, but there is a charging outlet and cupholders back there.

Those with child seats also take note, the second-row captain’s chairs top-tether anchor point is very low down on the seat back, meaning you might have to max out the strap length to get it there.

Also, because of the captain’s chairs, the top tether strap can be knocked off quite easily, as the inner shoulders of the seats are smooth offering nothing for the strap to catch onto if pushed towards the middle of the car.

And you can’t even install the car seat in the third row because the bench seat doesn’t feature any ISOFIX points. 

With all seats in place, the boot will happily swallow 322 litres (VDA) of volume, more than enough for groceries, school bags or even the stroller.

However, the boot floor is quite deep, making the retrieval of bulkier and heavy items a little cumbersome.

With the third-row folded, though, that cavity is filled in and the Odyssey features a completely flat floor then able to take on 1725L of volume.

Honda has even found a place for the space saver spare wheel, though it’s not underneath the car or tucked into the boot floor as you'd expect.

The spare is under the two front seats, and requires the removal of some interior carpets and trim to access. 

It’s not in the most convenient of places, but props to Honda for getting one in there when other seven-seaters just opt for a puncture repair kit. 

It’s a big unit, the Ioniq 9, measuring more than five metres long, just under two metres wide and around 1.8 metres high. Weight is a hefty 2.7 tonnes at its heaviest, too, while braked towing capacity is pegged at 2.5 tonnes.

So, big numbers and a big vehicle with big storage. With all three rows in place, you get 338 litres of boot space. But treat it like a five-seater and that increases to 908 litres. Drop both rows, and you’ll have a massive 2410 litres at your disposal.

The room in the middle row is ample for full-size adults, especially if you tick the box for the cushy six-seat layout, and the rear doors feel massive, so when opened you can step through to the third row with ease, too.

Once in there, you'll find an impressively luxe space. The room isn't ridiculous, but my 175cm got in easily enough, and then fit pretty easily, too. And the addition of USB charge ports, air vents, speakers and an automatic recline function for the third row will lift the mood for whoever you put back there.

So, we know it's not cheap, the Ioniq 9. In fact, it’s Hyundai’s most expensive car ever, outshining even the bonkers and brilliant Ioniq 5 N.

How much are we talking? Well, you can only get one Ioniq 9 — the flagship Calligraphy trim — and it’s yours for $119,750, before on-road costs.

There are just a couple of options from there, with the six-seat version an extra two thousand bucks, which I know sounds weird, to pay more for less, but you are essentially swapping the three-seat middle row for two more luxurious captain’s chairs. The digital side mirrors, which I hate, will cost you $3000, and matt paint will set you back $1000, or $250 more than the premium paint ask. Tick everything, and your Ioniq 9 is more like $125,000.

As to how many Hyundai will sell, suffice it to say the brand doesn’t expect it to be a huge contributor to its totals, acknowledging the EV market is stagnant and that most EV buyers are upgrading an electric vehicle, rather than stepping out of an ICE vehicle, which makes the purchase pool pretty shallow. Still, Hyundai is on track to sell around 150 of the six-figure Ioniq 5 Ns this year, so there are clearly some EV buyers with deep pockets.

Anyway, you get just about everything Hyundai can throw at a vehicle, including full LED lighting, 21-inch alloys, a big panoramic sunroof and a hands-free powered boot.

Inside, there are real Nappa leather seats, tri-zone climate, heated and ventilated seats in the first and second rows, a heated steering wheel and what Hyundai calls 'premium relaxation' seats up front.

There’s a big multimedia screen with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, a digital dash and a head-up display, a 14-speaker Bose stereo and a total six USB connections. But no vehicle-to-load, which means you forgo the household-style power outlet found in some EVs.

There are also a couple of first for Hyundai, including the ability to load your digital key into your phone’s wallet, meaning you can unlock and drive just using your device, and it’s the first time Hyundai has deployed active noise cancellation, too.

All 2021 Honda Odysseys are powered by a 129kW/225Nm 2.4-litre ‘K24W’ four-cylinder petrol engine, which drives the front wheels via a continuously variable automatic transmission (CVT).

Peak power is available at 6200rpm, while maximum torque is on stream from 4000rpm.

Honda diehards might note the K24 engine designation and be reminded of the rev-hungry 2.4-litre unit of the Accord Euro from the early 2000s, but this Odyssey’s powerplant is built for efficiency rather than performance.

Compared to the likes of the Kia Carnival (which is available with a 216kW/355Nm 3.5-litre V6 or 148kW/440Nm 2.2-litre turbo-diesel) the Odyssey is noticeably down on power.

The Australian Odyssey also doesn’t feature any form of electrification, such as the Toyota Prius V, which would excuse the lower outputs and push the Honda people mover more into green territory.

There's only the one configuration available here, with Australia's Ioniq 9 a dual-motor AWD producing a combined 314kW and 700Nm – the latter ensuring this heavy EV never feels dull or sluggish.

Overseas, our powertrain is called the Ioniq 9 Performance, and it produces the fastest zero to 100km/h time of just 5.2 seconds.

The 2021 Honda Odyssey, regardless of grade, will return a fuel consumption figure of 8.0 litres per 100km, according to official figures.

This betters the fuel economy of the petrol-powered Kia Carnival (9.6L/100km), as well as the Mazda CX-8 (8.1L/100km) and soon-to-be-replaced Toyota Kluger (9.1-9.5L/100km).

In our week with the Odyssey Vi LX7, we managed an average of 9.4L/100km in a mix of inner-city and freeway driving, which isn’t too far off the official figure.

Though the fuel consumption isn’t too bad for a naturally aspirated petrol engine, those who want to save costs at the bowser should look to the petrol-electric Toyota Prius V hybrid, which sips just 4.4L/100km.

The Hyundai Ioniq 9 is essentially sitting atop a massive 110.3kWh battery, which produces a claimed WLTP driving range of 600km.

Be warned, though, the digital dash has a live read out of your minimum and maximum driving range, presumably judged on your driving inputs, and there is a vast gap between the two numbers. In short, if you want to maximise range, go easy on the accelerator.

Its 800V architecture unlocks 233kW DC fast charging, which the brand says will take you from 10 to 80 per cent charged in 24 minutes.

Plugging in at home, though, will be much slower than that – something like 10 hours using 10.5kW wallbox.

Though the Honda Odyssey looks like a bus on the outside, it doesn’t feel like one behind the wheel.

The Odyssey drives differently to an SUV, which is a good thing, feeling more hunkered down and connected to the road compared to the wallowy and bouncy nature of some high-riders.

Don’t get me wrong, this isn’t Honda’s best handling model, but there is certainly enough feedback in the steering wheel to know exactly what’s happening underneath, and the Odyssey always feels predictable, regardless of road condition.

And because visibility is excellent all around, the Honda Odyssey is just an easy, no-fuss car to drive.

The second-row is also great while on the move, and might actually be the better place to be.

The seats do a great job at soaking up little bumps and road imperfections, and there is plenty of room to stretch out and relax while someone else handles driving duties.

It’s a shame, then, that there isn’t more going on in the second row to keep passengers happy.

The third-row seats, though, are nowhere near as comfortable.

Maybe it’s the fact they are positioned right over the rear axle, or it’s the thick and vision-obscuring C- and D-pillars – or a combination of both – but time in seats five, six and seven, aren't ideal for those prone to motion sickness.

Maybe kids, or those with stronger stomachs can get comfortable in the third row, but for us, it was not a pleasant experience.

It's a proper surprise packet, the Ioniq 9, because you approach it with a pretty good idea of how a big, heavy and equipment-soaked seven-seat SUV is going to behave on a twisting road. Short answer? Not well.

But somehow, through some kind a wizardry, the opposite is true. Rather than feel stupendously big and heavy, the Ioniq 9 shrinks around you, feeling far smaller, more dynamic and more capable than you'd expect.

I'd maybe forgo the tightest of tight switchbacks in favour of more sweeping, undulating bends, but honestly, you can squeeze plenty of fun out of the Ioniq 9 on the right road.

Happily, it's no one-trick pony, either. It's quiet in the cabin, even at freeway speeds, it's comfortable in the city and there's plenty of space and tech on board.

The key take-away here is I like the way Ioniq 9 drives, another big vehicle helped massively by electric motors. Sometimes in big ICE-powered SUVs you can feel just how much work is going into getting them up and moving, but that's not the case here.

Instead, because there are no transmissions or turbochargers to deal with, the Ioniq delivers a rich flow of power and torque every time you push the accelerator. No lag, no whining, it just goes.

But here's the really interesting bit. It almost doesn't matter how good I say this car is, or how well I think it drives, this car will remain a niche seller. And Hyundai's executives seem to know it. And all of that's a shame, because it's really very good on the road, this Ioniq 9.

The Ioniq 9 is yet to be assessed by ANCAP, but the results will soon be published for its European test, and the result will be adopted here. Hyundai says it’s shooting for a maximum five stars.

Elsewhere, there are 10 airbags and just about every active safety system you can poke a stick at, all wrapped up in Hyundai’s 'SmartSense' suite of technologies, including the new-for-the-brand 'Highway Driving Assist 2', which acts as a lane-centre 'Smart Cruise Control' but that can also take evasive action should someone swerve into your lane.

Like all new Hondas sold in 2021, the Odyssey comes with a five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty, with six-years of rust protection assurance.

Scheduled service intervals are every six months or 10,000km, whichever occurs first, but this is much sooner than the industry standard of 12 months/15,000km.

According to Honda’s 'Tailored Service' price guide, the first five years of ownership will cost buyers $3351 in servicing fees, averaging out to around $670 per year.

The Kia Carnival petrol meanwhile, is about $2435 to service over five years, averaging out to be about $487 per year.

The Toyota Prius V also needs to be serviced every six months/10,000km, but the cost of the first five years of ownership totals just $2314.71 – more than $1000 less than the Odyssey.

Five years with unlimited kilometres is still the underwhelming warranty norm at Hyundai. The battery is covered for eight years or 160,000km.

Happily, servicing is infrequent, with intervals pegged at two years or 30,000km. As a result, the first six years of servicing will cost a total $2005, or an average $334 per year.