Ford Falcon 2004 Problems

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Used Ford Falcon review: 2002-2004
By Graham Smith · 23 Jan 2009
The importance of the BA Falcon can’t be overstated. Had it failed to excite the car buying public it could well have been the model that spelt the end for Ford as a force in this country.It probably would have spelt the end of Ford as a manufacturer here, at least of cars designed locally.Failure would most likely have had the company’s Detroit management, itself under pressure, stepping in and dictating what would and wouldn’t be sold here. That would most likely have meant no Territory and no more Falcons, in their place would have been imported cars or at the very least cars assembled from packs of imported components.With no local Falcon to put pressure on Holden the company’s troubled American bosses would no doubt have questioned the need, and expense of having cars designed locally when there were suitable models available overseas.The entire dynamics of the local market could have changed in a most fundamental way.Thankfully the BA has been a success. It has rebuilt the image of the Falcon in the minds of car buyers after it had been badly wounded by the disastrous AU. We have the Territory, which is doing good business, and the men from Dearborn haven’t seen the need to intervene.Such was the image of the Falcon in the wake of the down-in-the-mouth AU that Ford’s local bosses knew that serious action was needed. The AU replacement couldn’t simply be a facelift to keep it going until the all-new 2005 model arrived as was the plan.Unless they acted boldly the 2005 Falcon might have simply been too late.It required a bold plan, and management capable of seeing it through in the face of enormous pressure from those watching from above. They simply couldn’t afford to fail.The man for the time was the late-Geoff Polites who had the foresight and the will to commit to what was in effect a new car with all of the costs that entailed and see it through to the end. Polites also backed the Territory, another success story, and he will no doubt be looked upon as the man who saved Ford locally when future historians pen the history of the company.The most damning criticism of the AU was aimed at its styling with its downtrodden curves that gave is a sad and sullen look. Fixing that meant major surgery to body panels, which was no cheap exercise.There was no way around it, though, the body had to undergo major surgery. A nip and a tuck here and there simply would not have been enough.By the time the BA’s stylists had finished there was little of the AU left. The doors were about the only panels recognisable from the old model, even the roof had been modified.The result was an amazing transformation. The downcast visage was gone, replaced by bright uplifting looks that gave off a positive vibe instead of the depression felt on sighting an AU.Ford could probably have got away with the body changes, and saved much of the $500 million it invested in the BA. There wasn’t much wrong with the AU mechanical package, but it was reasoned that they were coming from so far back the BA had to be seen as a major step forward to convince disaffected Falcon buyers to come back to the fold, and maybe even encourage some Commodore buyers to switch brands.So, as well as the crucial body changes, there was also a much upgraded six-cylinder engine, a new independent rear suspension, sports shift mode for the auto trans, and some cute new features like the control command centre inside and adjustable foot pedals.The base engine was the familiar Ford 4.0-litre inline six, but it was heavily revamped. It now boasted double overhead camshafts, four valves per cylinder, and variable cam timing, which delivered good performance right through the rev range with good torque at low revs and a powerful punch at high revs.At its peak the so-called Barra 182 engine produced 182 kW at 5000 revs and 380 Nm at 3250 revs, with good torque over a wide speed range.Underneath a new Control Blade IRS replaced the old double wishbone system, delivering the handling benefits of an independent system with improved ride comfort and better isolation from road noise.Brakes were improved discs all round with ABS standard, steering was also improved and power assisted.Inside there was also a much needed redesign. Gone was the awkward old dash, in its place came a much more modern design with a hooded instrument cluster and a centre dash console containing the supplementary controls for air-con and sound.XT was the badge the base model carried. It was meant to convey the image of the base model as a junior member of the sporty arm of the Falcon range, the other members being the XR6 and XR8.There was a long list of standard features on the XT, including air-conditioning, CD sound, power front windows, power mirrors, power driver’s seat and trip computer.Few problems reported to date. The six-cylinder engine is the most powerful in its class and appears to be largely trouble free although the extra power seems to have come at the cost of fuel consumption.One roadside service agent reports going to the rescue of a number of cars that have simply stopped by the side of the road. Some can’t be restarted, others need to be restarted like an old carburettor car.Make the usual checks for crash repairs, like poor panel fit, variable gaps between adjoining panels, and colour variation.Check also for a service record.One serious problem that the BA suffers from is the failure of brake hoses. It’s said to be that the rear hoses fail more frequently than the front, but both are prone to sudden and shocking failure. Shocking, that is, for the driver who suddenly finds their braking power is suddenly diminished when the brake pedal drops almost to the floor with little apparent retardation. The hoses are said to be too short and eventually break after being stretched and restretched. Consider replacing the hoses as a matter of course after buying a BA.The BA was too new to feature in the recent used car safety survey, but it’s fair to say that it’s as least as good as the AU which faired quite well. That was found to be significantly better than the average for occupant protection, and average in its affect on occupants of cars it hits.Body structure is improved, and with dual front airbags, provides crash protection.Hamilton Saunders has done just 32,000 km in his BA, which he says is a “good” car, comfortable, reliable and an excellent for towing, but is heavier on fuel than the previous model. Problems he’s encountered are a noise from the steering box, an occasional sulpher-like smell in very hot weather, neither of which the dealer has been able to fix, and the discs have required machining at every service.Ray Tonisson has completed just over 13,000 km in his BA and says, apart from being thirsty, it’s the best Ford he’s have owned. It has power and drives very well especially with the Sports suspension. Ford has lifted its bang for the buck on the XT with a good package of standard features. The sports pack just gives the appearance a bit more class.Lindsay Cameron has a 2002 BA Falcon wagon. It is generally driven by his wife and has done 20,000 km. He likes its looks, the power and smoothness of the engine, the ease of use of the cruise control ease of use, the 14-speed fan, the quiet air-conditioning vents, and its road holding. Conversely he dislikes the headlights which don’t turn off automatically, the carpets which are hard to clean, the recessed seat belt buckles which are difficult to use, the lack of rear leg room, the way the auto shifts down from fourth to third whenever then sports shift mode is selected, the tailgate release which had to be repaired under warranty and the remote central locking control which is on a pad instead of the key.Elling Salterod bought a new XT auto sedan in Jan 2004 . It has 9000 km on clock now , mainly around Sydney city and the central coast, but with one trip to Queensland. It’s comfortable and quiet, and returns good fuel consumption. There has been one recurring problem with the hand brake rubbing, which appears to be a design fault and can’t be fixed.Dennis Curtis likes the performance of his 2003 BA Falcon, but has two items of concern. The rear springs have been replaced twice in five months due towing even with Ford’s 2300 kg tow kit. Ford would only replace the springs with standard coils , and I was told if I changed to another stronger springs warranty would be voided. The other concern is with the auxiliary lights, which only illuminate with the turn signals in operation, and are of little assistance.• Happier styling than the AU• Class leading power• Excessive fuel consumption• Sports shift auto transmission for a fun driving experience• Reassuring and sporty handling• Brake hose failuresMuch improved model you won’t be afraid to admit owning.
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Used Ford Falcon review: 2002-2004
By Graham Smith · 23 Jan 2009
The sporty XR models have been a raging success for Ford since they were first introduced with the EB Falcon over a decade ago, but the surprise story in that success was the six-cylinder XR6. The sporty XR models have been a raging success for Ford since they were first introduced with the EB Falcon over a decade ago, but the surprise story in that success was the six-cylinder XR6. For the first time there was a local muscle car that didn’t have a V8 rumbling under the bonnet.In the years that have elapsed since the XR6 first debuted it has become even more popular, to the extent that it can now be considered an icon of local performance.The BA brought more refinements for the XR6, a logical extension of the six-cylinder sports sedan theme, but it also brought a new dimension in the form of the XR6 Turbo. If there was ever any lingering doubts about the XR6 as a muscle car they were blown away by the sizzling hot turbocharged model.In a country conditioned to believe that performance was only possible with a V8 under the bonnet the XR6 was a bold move by Ford and its performance partner Tickford Vehicle Engineering.When Ford was the leader of the go-fast pack it’s hottest cars had big and brawny V8s, and the company was being run by men from Dearborn where the V8 was king. Today, Ford is run by meeker men, from other parts of the world where power doesn’t necessarily come from the barrels of a big bent eight.They’ve been brought up on a more subtle diet of overhead camshafts, fuel-injection, and latterly turbochargers.That’s the reigning philosophy at Ford today where the XR6 and XR6T are the tearaway kings.In the BA range the XR6 builds on the XT Falcon base model. It has the same 182 kW 4.0-litre straight six engine with double overhead camshafts and four valves per cylinder. It also boasts variable camshaft timing that not only gives it a powerful punch at the top end, but it also gives a smooth purposeful flow of torque across the rev range.Performance peaks are put at 182 kW at 5000 revs and 380 Nm at 3250 revs.The XR6 also has the same transmission choices as the XT, a five-speed manual ’box or a four-speed sports shift auto.The essential differences that mark the XR6 out from the base model are in the fine tuning and the appearance.Underneath it boasted sports tuned independent rear suspension.Inside it had sports seats with sporty XR trim, a sports instrument cluster with XR graphics, and there was a nice leather wrapped steering wheel.Outside there was a sporty body kit with unique front-end styling, a boot lid spoiler, body coloured mirrors and side protection mouldings, a single chromed exhaust tip, and 17-inch alloy wheels.There was no doubt the XR6 was a nicely balanced sports drive with enough street cred to be respected on the road.For more mongrel bite there was the new XR6T, which took the six cylinder sports sedan to a whole new level. With the blown motor under the bonnet the XR6 became a new car, even though it had much in common with its normally-aspirated cousin.The XR6T had everything the XR6 had, but in addition it came with the turbocharged engine, a limited-slip diff, plus power rear windows, rear grab handles, and traction control as standard.The Barra 240T version of the 4.0-litre DOHC six has a Garrett GT40 turbocharger with an air-to-air intercooler to increase the charge density and thus maintain boost pressure for maximum power and torque.Inside the engine there are new pistons and rings, with a lower compression ratio of 8.7 to 1, down from the standard engine’s 9.7 to 1, and high temp exhaust valves.The result is a massive 240 kW surge at 5250 revs, with 450 Nm of torque on tap between 2000 and 4500 revs.Before buying an XR6, even more so an XR6T, check with other owners because they do have a few problems worth knowing about.Some owners are reporting an overboost problem with the turbo engine, which feels like the engine is surging almost out of control.The diffs are noisy and it’s not uncommon for low mileage cars to be on their second or third diff.The other problem is brake wear and shudder. Some owners report that brakes are needing attention, rotor machining etc., at every service.Both problems are possibly the result of hard driving, although some owners deny they drive their cars hard, so if you’re intent on an XR6T look for one that hasn’t been thrashed.Be aware that BA Falcon brakes hoses fail, said to be because they were too short and fail after being stretched and restretched in use. Replace the hoses, front and rear, as a matter of caution as the service replacements are about 2 cm longer and don’t have the problem. The failure seems to occur around the 75,000 km mark.They go hard which means that they’ll be driven hard by enthusiast owners. It’s almost impossible to drive an XR6T slowly, they want to go.BA Falcon was too new to make the recent real world used car safety survey, but increased body stiffness and dual airbags should mean state-of-the-art crash performance.Sports suspension tuning, four-wheel disc brakes with ABS and traction control add up to an impressive primary safety package.Chris Elliott is a dedicated Ford fan who reckons his 2003 XR6T is fantastic, a joy to drive despite a couple of problems. He bought it with 15,000 km on it knowing the previous owner had a noisy diff replaced at 14,000 km, and now at 32,000 km is facing the same problem. It has also suffered severe brake shudder at around 28,000 km, which he says was fixed. Other than those the biggest other fault has been the stitching in the rear seat squad has come undone. Against that he was pleasantly surprised by the low service cost, and the fuel consumption, which averages 15.2 L/100 km around town and 10 on a trip.Andrew Kiejda owns a 2004 BA Falcon XR6, which has already done 25,000 km. He chose the XR6 for its superior suspension, seats and resale value. The car has handled its duties quite well with no rattles or squeaks despite occasional dirt road use and the traction control works extremely well. Only problem has been the loss of cruise control and sequential function of the auto trans due to a wiring loom fault at 18,000 km.• sporty styling• great handling from sports tuned suspension• smooth powerful engine• relatively high fuel consumption• sizzling performance of turbo engine• good resale value• noisy diffs• brake noise and shudder• brake hose failureGreat high performance sports sedans, but avoid cars that have been given a hard time.
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Brake failure concerns
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 23 Jan 2009

I BELIEVE Ford should have a recall and replace the suspect hoses. To say not enough people have complained is not good enough. Perhaps more Carsguide readers should get on the phone and lodge their complaints.

Hose to blame?
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 09 Apr 2009

FORD has recalled all Territorys built between February 1, 2004, and December 31, 2008, to replace the front brake hoses, so that's a positive move that we applaud. Hopefully, they will follow up with a similar recall on the Falcon. Ford has already recalled the Falcon sedan to replace rear brake hoses, so you shouldn't have had to pay to replace them. We still believe there is a problem with the Falcon's front brake hoses that hasn't been addressed.

Ford brake failure
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 02 Jan 2009

HAVING worked in the engineering side of the industry, I can't believe a dangerous problem like this has escaped Ford's notice. Even worse, I can't believe it wasn't the subject of a recall. As you say, the sudden failure of a brake hose and the loss of braking is a major concern for anyone driving a Falcon or a Territory. I'm not trying in any way to play down the problem, but you don't lose total braking effect if a brake hose fails. The braking system is designed so that if a front hose fails you still have the rear brakes to use, and vice versa.

Faulty hoses
Answered by Graham Smith · 27 Feb 2009

I AM at a loss to how they could get the brake hose length wrong; someone should lose their job over it. But having got it wrong, Ford should have had a full recall and made sure that the problem hoses are removed so no one's safety is put at risk. As for the power steering hoses, we have had a few reports, but nothing like the number of reports on the brake hoses.

Falcon hose replacements
Answered by Graham Smith · 03 Apr 2009

YES. Dealers will replace the rear hoses on your car, on instructions from head office, but they will probably baulk at replacing the front hoses. Ford doesn't acknowledge there is a problem with the front hoses, but we beg to differ. Ford is investigating the hose failure issue and we are awaiting those findings.

I'm going bonkers
Answered by Graham Smith · 16 Apr 2009

WE'VE had heaps of emails complaining about the same problem, and not only on Falcons. It's a common problem and there seems to be no real fix. Anti-rattle glue behind the pads helps, but it's not permanent. The first time it came to my attention was soon after the release of the BA Falcon, when an owner complained of the noise in his new car. Dealers fobbed him off, and Ford couldn't help, so eventually he traded his car in for a Honda.

Shudder at the thought
Answered by Graham Smith · 28 Nov 2008

BRAKE shudder is a widely reported problem with the Falcon and is usually caused by warped discs. When the discs warp you might be able to fix the problem simply by skimming the discs and fitting new pads. You probably need new discs, but be warned that they will probably warp in no time as well. Most mechanics work on skimming the discs once, then replacing them when the problem returns. Discs last 50,000-70,000km in most cases before they need replacing.

Injection power
Answered by CarsGuide team · 24 Oct 2008

THE two types are the older Venturi/mixer system that has been around for 30 years or more and done a pretty good job. It will save fuel, but you will lose power and the driveability won't be as good. The other system is gas-injection, used on most modern cars like yours. It will give you the fuel savings, you won't lose power, and the driveability will be better than with the old system. The downside to the injection system is it's more expensive. You could fit an old Venturi/mixer system for about $2500, but an injection system will cost about $4500. I would recommend the injection system even though it costs more. Shop around to find the best installer in your area. Look for brands like Eurogas, Impco, Global Autogas, Speedy Gas, Apollo and so on -- they're all well-respected.

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