Subaru Forester vs Nissan Patrol

What's the difference?

To many people, this review won’t matter. There’s a large part of Subaru’s customer base that come back knowing they’ll get a practical, capable car regardless of refinement - something the brand’s rivals can’t quite match.

But even those people will be pleased to find the new Forester is a huge step-up over the last one in many areas. Sure, it’s a little late for Subaru to be joining the hybrid game in 2025, but it’s not the only brand from Japan that’s been slow on that front, and the brand’s philosophy hasn’t always been focused on efficiency anyway.

In a vacuum, the new Forester is a great adventure companion, but anyone considering a mid-size family SUV and not requiring the AWD and clearance the Forester has on offer could do better elsewhere.

For anyone else, there’s still only one option that really ticks all the boxes - and now it’s much better than before.

Just get the petrol if you’re going anywhere that could damage a tyre.

The Nissan Patrol Warrior is a very capable 4WD, it’s a refined, comfortable all-rounder with plenty of potential as a touring vehicle.

PremCar’s work here – as on the Navara – has made a good 4WD even better.

All of that conversion work, engineering upgrades and fitment of accessories is the kind of sensible work an experienced 4WDer would apply via the aftermarket. The bonus here is that it’s all factory-backed and covered by a 10-year/300,000km warranty, albeit with conditions. 

If you can cope with the fuel bills, this big V8 4WD remains a refreshingly old-school style of off-roader – relying more on sheer grunt than touchy tech – and the latest round of cabin updates has added more appeal to what is already a very appealing vehicle.

The new Forester is a slight departure from the characterful previous generation, and to this writer’s eye that’s to its detriment. It’s not unpleasant to look at, but it doesn’t look so much like a Forester anymore.

I wouldn’t be the first to say it looks like it had at least one pass through the North American Ford design centre, but even putting that aside, the rounded front is a less interesting design treatment than we’re used to seeing from Subaru.

Its side profile shows off its boxy, practical nature, however, and from the rear it looks much more Subaru-like than from the front.

In Sport guise, particularly, the Forester’s bronze trim and wheels are a decent give-away that the brand was going for a more premium look.

Inside, the Forester doesn’t look enormously different from the last generation, especially when it comes to buttons, shifters, and the big vertical 11.6-inch touchscreen, the latter right out of other Subaru models that have been around a while.

But perhaps that was deliberate, because some of the new Forester’s best features are those that follow the notion of ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’.

The Nissan Patrol Warrior is 5269mm long (with a 3075mm wheelbase), 2079mm wide, 1990mm high and it has a listed kerb weight of 2858kg. It’s 94mm longer and 84mm wider than the Ti.

Though this latest round of range updates have been mostly limited to the multimedia system, that’s a-okay because this Warrior has more than enough heavy-shouldered presence on- and off-road and not simply because it’s a chunky behemoth.

While other large 4WDs, such as the Toyota LandCruiser 300 Series, have bowed to contemporary-taste pressure and become a bit softer around the edges, the Warrior retains some of the blocky stature of 4WDs past.

Inside, the interior has benefitted from the new bigger multimedia system which sits atop the dash and dominates real estate up front. The interior feels slightly fresher than in previous iterations, but still comfortably familiar.

Perhaps the best selling point for the new Forester is that it hasn’t changed a whole lot inside. It’s spacious for its class and has physical buttons for a lot of things, while making sure the key controls like climate are always accessible on the touchscreen without needing to navigate through menus.

The steering wheel and gearshift look familiar and the general layout of the Forester seems to follow the brand’s established pattern of convenience over anything that could be annoying or complicated.

The software on the big screen is the same as any recent Subaru SUV with big buttons and a simple menu structure that means you rarely get lost. It’s not cutting-edge, but it works, much like a lot of the elements of this car.

The seats are comfortable and the seating position and steering wheel adjustment work well regardless of grade.

One element of the interior that works particularly well is visibility. Subaru made the headrest a little narrower to assist with shoulder checks and make looking over to the back seat easier. The result is a clear view, not only of the interior but also through those annoying side angles your wing mirrors might miss.

The back seat is also plenty spacious, with ample knee, foot and hip room in the second row’s outboard seats. Head and shoulder space is also fab. There’s little risk of feeling cramped in the back, even for a proper adult, especially if there’s a sunroof for that extra light.

Behind the second row, there’s 496 litres of boot space in non-hybrids, and 484L in hybrid variants, plus a switch in the boot to drop the second row from the tailgate.

That allows for 1174L and 1162L in petrol and hybrid models, respectively, though a big downside for the hybrid models is the lack of spare wheel, just a repair kit.

No spare tyre in a car you expect to be able to take off-road isn’t good enough, and it’s the key reason the Forester doesn’t score a full 10 for interior practicality. A shame, because the rest of the cabin is built for ease.

The Warrior cabin is essentially a Ti interior – as such, it’s roomy and plush, with expanses of soft-touch surfaces. Due to plenty of ‘Warrior’ touches and the most recent updates as noted earlier, the cabin feels made-over yet instantly recognisable. 

The centre console is no longer the confusion of buttons, dials and knobs it previously was and there are plenty of storage spaces for driver and front passenger – glove box, cupholders, bottle holders in the doors etc – as well as some concealed spaces (with pop-up lids) for keys, phone and other everyday carry gear.

Second-row passengers get comfortable seats, as well as two USB charge points, and temperature and fan controls in the back of the centre console. Those in this row also have access to the back of the centre console. 

There are cupholders in the fold-down armrest, map pockets in the seat backs and bottle holders in the doors. 

Second-row seats have a top tether point and an ISOFIX point on both outer seats.

Third-row seats are flat and hard compared to the other positions and, in terms of space, are better suited to children or adults for brief stints.

All three rows get air con – there are roof-mounted vents – and there are handy storage spaces in the third row, but no cupholders. 

The third row has one top tether child seat anchorage point. 

The rear cargo area has load tie-down points and a 12V socket, as well as tyre-changing tools under the floor. The new full-sized spare tyre is underslung at the rear.

With the third-row seats in use, boot space is listed as 467L. With the third row stowed away, there’s a claimed 1413L of cargo space. With the second and third rows stowed there’s a claimed 2623L.

The Nissan Patrol Warrior is a eight-seat 4WD wagon with a price-tag of $105,660, before on-road costs.

Standard features include a 12.3-inch touchscreen multimedia system (with wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto and sat nav), as well as a new 7.0-inch driver dash display, wireless charging and an off-road monitor.

Other features onboard include front and rear parking sensors, a 360-degree camera view and a tyre-pressure monitoring system.

The more than $15,000 worth of carried-over Premcar conversion work, upgrades and fitment of accessories include a re-engineered version of Nissan’s 'Hydraulic Body Motion Control' (HBMC) system, a 50mm total suspension lift with new springs front and rear increasing vehicle height to 1990mm (+50mm over the Ti), and increased ground clearance to 323mm (+50mm) and wheel track to 1735mm front and rear (+40mm).

Warrior-specific suspension modifications include not only the Warrior-tuned HBMC (front and rear) but front Warrior red springs, rear Warrior multi-rate red springs and Warrior rear bump-stop.

Exterior changes carried over into this Warrior iteration include a red Warrior-branded bash plate, front Warrior-embossed bumper valance, a black grille, Patrol Warrior decals, black side mirror caps, plus an upgraded exhaust system with bi-modal valve and a unique exhaust tip.

There's also a black flare kit (with grained finish), Warrior towbar (towbar cross member, tongue, harness only, all modified to fit the new, bigger full-size spare), two rear recovery points, Warrior rear bumper valance (with grained finish) and a black chrome tailgate Warrior badge.

The Warrior wheel and tyre package is the Yokohama Geolandar 15 All Terrain tyres (295/70R18) on 18 x 9 J cast-aluminium Patrol Warrior black machined-face alloy wheels.

The Patrol Warrior has a specially modified space for a full-size alloy spare wheel.

Inside, carried-over Warrior-specific touches include an Alcantara Warrior embossed garnish, clear-coated gloss black centre console and centre multimedia fascia as well as leather-accented and Alcantara door trim.

Exterior paint choices include 'Gun Metallic', 'Moonstone White', 'Brilliant Silver' and 'Black Obsidian'.

What you get in a Warrior for the price compares favourably, especially when cross-shopped with something like a GMC Yukon Denali, another eight-seat 4WD wagon with a V8 – as its price-tag is $174,990, excluding on-road costs. 

Both Forester drivetrains use the brand’s existing all-wheel drive tech and a continuously-variable transmission, but the hybrid does something Subaru is keen to point out its rivals’ don’t.

The petrol version is powered by a (136kW/247Nm) 2.5-litre naturally aspirated flat-four ‘boxer’ engine that's largely unchanged.

The hybrid consists of the same type of engine with different valve controls and lower outputs of 121kW/212Nm. 

The key part is it’s assisted by a 90kW electric motor that, rather than being mounted to the rear axle and engaging when traction is needed, is placed before the transmission and sends electric power to all four wheels. Total outputs for the Hybrid variants are 145kW and 276Nm.

The Warrior has a 5.6-litre V8 petrol engine producing 298kW and 560Nm, matched to a seven-speed automatic transmission.

This solid combination lacks a dynamic edge, but the Warrior produces such a supremely relaxed and assured delivery of power and torque – it feels almost lazy – that you forgive it for not being the zippiest thing around.

The Patrol has full-time four-wheel drive with high- and low-range and a rear diff-lock.

Subaru claims the Forester drinks 7.9L of petrol (minimum 91 RON) per 100km or 6.2L/100km in hybrid guise.

The latter's a bit of a let-down given Toyota’s RAV4 hybrid in AWD guise comes with a 4.8L/100km claim and that system's been around for ages.

Both Foresters have a 63-litre fuel tank, so could theoretically travel a maximum 797km (petrol) or 1016km (hybrid). 

Don’t expect to manage that in real-world driving, though. The trip computer reading for the last car I drove on test (a hybrid) was 7.8L/100km after a mix of highway and off-road running.

The Nissan Patrol Warrior has an official combined cycle (urban/extra-urban) fuel consumption figure of 14.4L/100km.

I recorded 21.4L/100km on this test. I did a lot of high- and low-range 4WDing – but the Patrol was never working hard.

The Patrol has a 140L fuel tank capacity, so going by our on-test fuel-consumption figure you could reasonably expect a full-tank driving range of about 654km.

On paper, the new Forester hasn’t changed to a great degree. With that engine and the late-ish introduction of a proper hybrid system, you might expect the Forester to be undercooked. 

Sure, Subaru is playing catch-up and it would be a fair to say adding a hybrid grade to its mid-size SUV in 2025 puts it behind the curve, but Subaru is leaning into its niche.

Subaru’s very happy about being able to claim the Forester is the only hybrid mid-size SUV on sale where the one hybrid motor drives all four wheels mechanically thanks to its 'symmetrical' all-wheel drive system. Then there’s the "class-leading" 220mm of ground clearance.

But as well as being capable off the road, the Forester needs to be a decent day-to-day companion. Fortunately, it’s both.

The new Forester’s road manners are a surprising step-up over the previous generation’s, which felt soft and agricultural at times.

Subaru touted the new car's incremental improvements, but behind the wheel it feels like they add up to a far superior experience. The Forester is still a little noisy - mainly wind and road noise - but many of the elements that were once a let-down are much more refined.

The CVT doesn't complain so much when called upon to pick up the pace, and the steering feels much sharper. The former could be down to a huge increase in sound-shielding, the latter likely due to Subaru’s use of the dual-pinion steering system borrowed from the WRX.

Subaru says it “reduces mechanical resistance and eliminates unwanted feedback from the motor”. It seems to have done exactly that.

Perhaps most noticeable is the suspension, which feels more tied-down and stable than before, without sharpening up too much and becoming uncomfortable. Subaru says revised spring rates, better under-body aero and a more rigid chassis all contribute.

The hybrid and petrol have different suspension set-ups, the latter feeling softer in terms of damper response but still far more confidence-inspiring than the previous-gen Forester.

It all comes together to create a driving experience that’s easy and comfortable at traffic speeds and fun and engaging at high speeds on, for example, the smooth winding back-roads of New Zealand’s South Island.

The problem for Subaru is that despite having introduced a new hybrid system, the petrol-only Forester is just as good from behind the wheel. The advantages the hybrid brings in terms of efficiency will be a draw for some, but in terms of driving dynamics the extra power and torque on offer is probably not worth the extra outlay.

Then there’s the lack of a spare wheel… which should be a requirement when you’re off sealed roads. The gravel and mud of the Canterbury region didn’t faze the Forester, though, and we put the mid-size SUV through its paces harder than most owners realistically would.

Deep mud ruts, creek crossings and jagged rocky trails were all traversed easily and comfortably, especially considering the standard road tyres fitted. 

None of the test cars were stuck due to either negligent road testers or lack of mechanical ability on the Subaru’s part, though two cars on test did succumb to an excess of water in the engine bay and went into a safety shut-down mode once we arrived back at the end of the off-road trail.

We asked Subaru for an explanation and we were told it’s a feature that saves components like the cooling fan from water damage.

“Two vehicles experienced this due to the nose being submerged from entering the water crossing at the incorrect speed and/or entry line… if water enters the engine bay at a sufficient level, a protective fuse is designed to engage to safeguard the radiator fan motor.

“This system functioned exactly as designed. Despite this, the vehicle continued to perform as intended, enabling the driver to complete the off-road course and return safely to the Homestead. 

“After cycling the ignition, a warning light alerted the driver, and the engine shut down automatically to prevent any potential damage. This sequence is outlined in the Owner’s Manual. This is a built-in protection protocol and not a fault.”

A replacement fuse meant one of the vehicles “resumed full operation,” a Subaru spokesperson added.

This latest update is cabin-centric so it’s brought no powertrain changes or any improvements to 4WD mechanicals or driver-assist tech. And that’s fine because the Warrior is pretty darned impressive, as is.

On-road and on dirt tracks, it’s all smooth sailing. The Patrol Warrior is tighter and more composed than its standard stablemates, and that's mostly due to its upgraded suspension and HBMC system.

HBMC acts as a sway bar and sway bar disconnect equivalent and combines with the Aussie-tuned suspension to rein everything in when you're on bitumen and loosen everything when you're on dirt or off-road. 

The Patrol as standard is a nice wagon to drive, but the Premcar work undertaken to create the Warrior – all the conversions and upgrades – have made it that much better. 

On the open road you have the opportunity to appreciate just how comfortable and refined the Patrol Warrior is. 

And as for 4WDing, well, the Warrior is a Patrol at heart so it has reliable four-wheel drive mechanicals, plenty of torque over a broad rev range and a rear diff lock. 

There's more ground clearance in the Warrior over the Ti at 323mm (+50mm ), so approach (40 degrees) and departure angles (23.3 degrees) are an improvement over the standard Patrol.

The Warrior’s tyres – Yokohama Geolandar 15 All Terrain tyres (295/70R18) – are bigger and offer more grip, so they provide plenty of traction on terrain where a standard Patrol may struggle. 

Premcar has modified the towbar position to accommodate the new bigger full-size spare wheel and tyre.

Another good thing is the fact the Patrol Warrior has two recovery points at the rear.

The HBMC system, which performs so seamlessly on-road, provides more articulation off-road, as well as a bit more wheel travel through difficult terrain.

And, as I’ve noted before on other tests, one of the impressive points about Premcar’s work here – the conversions, the modifications, the engineering upgrades and the fitment of accessories – is that it’s all the kind of common-sense upgrades an experienced 4WDer would apply to their Patrol. 

But, even in something this impressive, the news is not all good.

The Warrior is a big vehicle and at 2858kg you have to drive it with that in mind, all the time. It fills the trail and with its wider wheel track, you have to be focused on wheel placement, even more so than usual.

The bi-modal exhaust is awesome, but those exhaust caps (underneath the Warrior's right-hand side step) are too vulnerable to damage.

They compromise the vehicle's ramp-over angle, so you have to drive with careful consideration, especially if the Warrior rocks even slightly to the right-hand side going up or down a steep rocky hill, because there’s a risk of grinding those exhaust tips against rock steps, dirt or a tree stump. 

The Patrol is a towing platform of note and towing capacities remain as 750kg (unbraked) and 3500kg (braked).

The Warrior's GVM (gross vehicle mass) at 3620kg is 120kg more than the Ti Patrol’s.

The Nissan Patrol range does not have an ANCAP safety rating because it has not been tested.

That said, as standard it has dual front airbags, front-side and curtain airbags that cover all three rows, as well as two ISOFIX points and two top tether points in the second row.

Driver-assist tech includes AEB, rear cross-traffic alert, lane-departure warning/intervention, blind-spot warning/intervention and adaptive cruise control.

Subaru‘s five-year, unlimited kilometre warranty is behind the curve for mainstream brands with many offering between seven and 10 years, but its eight-year/160,000 kilometre hybrid high-voltage battery warranty is par for the course.

Servicing intervals are every 15,000km or 12 months, with servicing pricing locked in for the first 75,000km or 60 months of ownership. Total cost over this time is $2299 for either drivetrain, with the cheapest service being $347.95 and the most expensive $679.30 (at 60,000km or 48 months).

Subaru also offers 12-months complimentary roadside assistance.

All new Patrols have a 10-year/300,000km warranty when the vehicle is serviced with Nissan and the Premcar work is covered for the same amount of time – with the same conditions applied.

Five years of roadside assistance also applies – with the same conditions.

Servicing is scheduled at 12 month/10,000km intervals, and capped price service rates apply for five years. That means each of the first five services will cost you $499.