LDV G10 vs Toyota Tundra

What's the difference?

The LDV G10 is a solid option for those buyers who just want a van that gets the job done. It was decent with weight on board, but is probably better suited to parcel carriers rather than pallet shifters.

Safety levels are the biggest concern, as it is falling behind in the class when it comes to active safety tech, and its weak crash test score could be enough to rule it out for some customers. 

The Tundra Platinum is a good-looking and well-engineered RHD full-size US pickup which stands apart from local competitors with its unique hybrid drivetrain and unmatched power/torque outputs. However, it also comes with a conspicuously high purchase price, which given the quality of local Ram, Chevrolet and Ford competition could be a deal-breaker for some.

The more you see LDV G10 vans, the more regular they look. Familiarity breeds ignorance, I guess, but I still think the G10 looks smart. 

It isn’t quite as boxy as some, with its sleeker front-end styling and almost sedan-like tail-lights helping it stand out from the ‘box-on-wheels’ stigma. It gets 16-inch alloy wheels as standard, and has halogen headlights and misses out on daytime running lights.

But it still is a box on wheels, measuring 5168mm long (on a 3198mm wheelbase), 1980mm wide and 1928mm tall. That makes it a darn sight smaller than the new HiAce, which stepped up significantly in size, and about on par with a Renault Trafic SWB or Ford Transit Custom 300S SWB. 

The perceived build quality is mostly okay, though our test car had a few loose plastics on the outside and a seemingly mis-fit windshield rubber.

This is a substantial vehicle with bold, bluff-fronted styling characterised by an enormous grille that has an imposing presence wherever it roams.

Toyota's TNGA-F ladder-frame chassis platform is shared with the LandCruiser 300 Series and Prado models, but the big American has a much longer 3700mm wheelbase, spans almost six metres in length (5955mm) and is more than two metres wide (2040mm). However, it’s less than two metres tall (1985mm), so it can access underground and multi-storey carparks. 

It rides on double-wishbone coil-spring front suspension and a multi-link coil-spring live rear axle, with electric power-assisted rack and pinion steering and big four-wheel disc brakes.

Off-road credentials include 216mm of ground clearance, 23 degrees approach and 21 degrees departure angles – which are ample for accessing rugged worksites – while the turning circle is an expansive 15 metres.

The interior, with its panoramic sunroof, has a spacious and airy ambience, enhanced by contrasting blue stitching on its leather-appointed upholstery.

Although the cabin has a high standard of fit and finish, as you’d expect from Toyota and WAG, it doesn't look and feel quite as lavish as the sumptuous interiors found in its top-shelf US rivals. The centre console lid in particular feels too light and plasticky for a vehicle in this price range.

Those dimensions translate to a cargo space of 5.2 cubic metres, with a load space spanning 2500mm long, 1590mm wide (1270mm between the arches) and 1270mm tall. That mightn’t be big enough for you, and that’s too bad - there is no high roof version, nor a long-wheelbase model; but you could get an LDV V80 if you really need to step up in size… but we wouldn’t suggest you do that.

The payload for this model is 1010kg, which is decent but not benchmark-setting. It has a gross vehicle mass of 3000kg, meaning a kerb weight of 1990kg. The gross combination mass depends on the model: the GCM for diesel models is 5000kg for a braked trailer, while petrol models have a GCM of 4750kg for a braked trailer (auto) and 4500kg (manual). All models have a GCM of 3750kg for unbraked trailers.

The petrol versions have 1093kg of payload, if you prefer that fuel type. Interestingly, the manual versions have leaf spring rear suspension, while the auto models have coil springs as part of a five-link suspension architecture.

The load area has a six floor-mounted and four wall-mounted tie-down hooks, and the floor is lined with a vinyl covering while up to half-height the inner walls are lined, too. There are four lights mounted on the walls, which is handy for after-hours work.

And every LDV G10 comes with dual sliding side doors (some brands charge thousands more for this convenience), while the back door is a tailgate as standard, with the option of barn doors for diesel models.

For those who need to fork loads in, the barn doors are a no brainer, because the side door apertures (at 820mm wide) aren’t broad enough to load in using a lift. The tailgate also makes it very difficult to load weight in, as we found on test, as our mates at Crown Lifts had to use long tines to fork in our 750kg ballast.

When it comes to creature comforts up front, there is a pair of low-mounted pop-out cupholders, and an open storage area between the seats. There isn’t much covered storage, so if you often carry valuables, you may need to keep that in mind. 

The seats are comfortable and offer good adjustment, and they’ve been changed since the diesel auto model launched. They’re no longer a cheap-feeling fabric, but rather a faux-leather accented, mesh-lined set of seats, and both have armrests. Nice.

The presentation is okay, but the ergonomics could be better. The touchscreen is mounted down lower than most, and means you may need to take your eyes away from the road because the controls are down even lower. And the USB? Near the floor.

That screen is still a 7.0-inch display, but now has the same software system as the newer models in the LDV range. That means a nice crisp colourful display with the added advantage of Apple CarPlay… if you can get it to work. We had a few issues when reconnecting a phone without re-starting the car. 

With its 2834kg kerb weight and 3536kg GVM, the Platinum has a 702kg payload limit which is modest compared to smaller 4x4 utes with genuine one-tonne-plus capabilities.

However, it’s rated to tow up to 4500kg of braked trailer on a 70mm ball and with its substantial 7980kg GCM (or how much weight it can legally carry and tow at the same time) that would require only a small drop in payload from 702kg to 646kg to avoid exceeding the GCM. So, that’s a practical set of numbers if you ever need to tow the maximum 4.5 tonnes.

The load tub is 1660mm long, 1491mm wide and 531mm deep, with 1237mm between its rear wheel-housings allowing either a standard Aussie or Euro pallet. It’s accessed through a power tailgate, which can be operated from the driver’s seat if required.

The tub’s internal surfaces are protected by a composite drop-in liner, with handy slots moulded into each side for vertically inserting planks of wood to serve as lateral load-dividers if required.

The Platinum's tub also has unique hooded LED lighting in each sidewall, plus there’s fixed load-anchorage points front and rear at mid-height (would be better if just above floor height) and rails with adjustable sliding anchorages along the top of the front and side walls for securing taller loads.

Cabin storage includes two 600mL bottle-holders and storage bins in each front door plus a decent-sized single glovebox, a 12V dash socket and an overhead glasses-holder.

The centre console offers open storage up front including a wireless phone-charging pad, plus a pair of small-bottle/cupholders in the centre and a large lidded box at the back containing USB ports.

The large rear doors, with pull-up privacy screens on their windows, provide wide entry to the rear bench seat. There’s enough shoulder room for three adults and even tall passengers enjoy ample legroom, although those seats in the centre must contend with a transmission hump, which is absent in its flat-floored rivals.

There’s two 600mL bottle-holders and a bin in each rear door, plus large pockets on each front seat backrest and two more bottle/cupholders at the rear of the centre console, which also has controls for rear seat heating/cooling, plus USB ports and adjustable air-vents.

If travelling with two, the centre seat backrest folds down to provide a comfortable armrest and two more bottle/cupholders (that's 14 in total), so drink storage is well catered for in this cabin.

The rear seat’s 60/40-split base cushions can also swing up and be stored vertically for more internal luggage space, but there’s no storage compartments underneath as this space is occupied by the hybrid drivetrain’s battery, with large vents on either side providing it with ample ventilation.

Our only criticism of the rear seating is limited headroom for tall people, caused by a deep contour in the roof-lining to accommodate the Platinum’s sunroof.

This contour sits very close to foreheads and limits head space. So, if you have tall passengers, they might get cranky on long drives, particularly those seated in the slightly higher centre position with (like me) the top of their head pressed firmly into the roof lining.

Our recently launched Platinum test vehicle is, like its Limited sibling, available only with Toyota’s ‘i-FORCE MAX’ hybrid powertrain, which combines a 3.5-litre twin-turbo V6 petrol engine, electric motor-generator, traction battery and 10-speed automatic transmission, for a list price of $172,990 plus on-road costs.

That pricing is $17,000 more than the Limited and considerably higher than Australian premium-grade RHD rivals including the Ford F-150 Lariat LWB ($140,945), Chevrolet Silverado 1500 ZR2 ($141,500) and Ram 1500 Limited ($159,950). Note the F-150 has temporarily been withdrawn from sale in Australia due to an ADR compliance issue.

The Tundra Platinum shares numerous standard features with the Limited, including 20-inch alloy wheels (although the Platinum’s wheel design is unique) with 265/60R20 tyres and a 245/75R18 ‘space saver’ spare (to optimise its underfloor-mounted ground clearance), LED lighting, heated door mirrors, an automatic ‘active’ front spoiler, side steps, a power tailgate, a tub liner, a 3500kg towing kit and front/rear parking sensors to name a few.

The cabin has smart entry/start, dual-zone climate, front seat heating/cooling, a leather-accented steering wheel and shifter, a 12.3-inch driver’s digital instrument cluster, a 12-speaker JBL audio system with a 14-inch multimedia touchscreen and multiple connectivity including Apple/Android devices, wireless phone charging, power sliding rear glass, five USB ports and more.

The Platinum adds not only its unique black-painted alloy wheels but also a bold mesh grille design with dark chrome surround, black body detailing, tailgate spoiler and rain-sensing wipers.

The cabin gets a full-length panoramic sunroof and leather-accented trim, with the front seats equipped with 10-way power adjustment including a massage function. There’s also heating/cooling for the outer rear seats, heated steering wheel with power tilt-reach adjustment and 10.9-inch colour head-up display.

Under the bonnet of the diesel G10 is a 1.9-litre four-cylinder turbo-diesel with 106kW of power and 350Nm of torque. There’s the choice of a six-speed manual or six-speed automatic, and the G10 is rear-wheel drive. It has a diesel particulate filter, but not stop-start or AdBlue.

Prefer petrol? There’s a 2.4-litre five-speed manual model (105kW/200Nm) or a 2.0-litre turbocharged six-speed auto (165kW/330Nm). Those models are cheaper - $25,990 for the manual for ABN holders, while the turbo-petrol auto is $30,990 d/a. 

The Tundra’s powertrain consists of a 3.5-litre twin-turbocharged V6 petrol engine that produces 290kW of power at 5200rpm and 649Nm of torque between 2400-3600rpm.

This is paired with an electric motor mounted directly behind, which produces 36kW/250Nm and draws its electrons from a 6.5Ahr Ni-MH (nickel metal hydride) battery located beneath the rear seat.

Their combined output is 326kW and 790Nm, which is more power and torque than any of its local rivals and therefore appealing for those who need to haul and/or tow heavy loads.

Its refined 10-speed torque converter automatic offers the choice of sequential manual-shifting, a dedicated Tow/Haul setting and three drive modes comprising Normal (default), Sport and Eco.

The 4WD system is part-time, dual-range with 2H (2WD High Range), 4H (4WD High Range) and 4L (4WD Low Range). There’s also an automatic limited-slip rear differential, but unlike its competitors no full-time AWD mode is available.

The combined cycle fuel use claim for the LDV G10 diesel auto is 8.6 litres per 100 kilometres. The manual version uses 8.3L/100km according to the brand.

On test we saw a fuel use return of 9.7L/100km at the pump, across a mix of urban, highway and freeway driving, with and without a load. 

Petrol models use a claimed 11.5L (manual) and 11.7L (auto) per hundred.

With the Tundra’s GVM rating exceeding 3.5 tonnes, Toyota is not required under current ADRs to publish fuel consumption figures. Even so, we covered a total distance of 298km, which comprised a mix of suburban, city and highway driving of which about one third was hauling a near-maximum payload.

When we stopped to refuel, the dash display was claiming average combined consumption of 14.1L/100km, but our own figure calculated from fuel bowser and tripmeter readings was 15.8, which is in the same ballpark as mid-teen figures we’ve achieved in its six and eight-cylinder rivals.

Therefore, based on our own figure, the Tundra Platinum has a real-world driving range nudging 800km from its big 122-litre tank, which according to Toyota requires minimum 95 RON petrol.

You probably wouldn’t choose an LDV G10 as a daily driver if you didn’t intend to use the cargo zone at least 80 per cent of the time.

But if - for whatever reason - you really want to use a van like this on a day-to-day basis, you won’t hate it. 

The G10 drives pretty nicely for this type of vehicle. It isn’t as bouncy when unladen as some of the other vans out there, with the suspension proving very quick to settle and mostly very compliant across mixed surfaces. 

The steering wheel can jostle a bit over sharp edges, but it steers well, with decent (not too heavy) weighting and predictable response at all speeds. 

Without weight on board the engine feels reasonably urgent in its response, which is a bit of a surprise because it’s not a powerhouse based on its outputs. It revs smoothly and pulls with good strength, with little turbo lag to contend with. While it is a bit of a grumbly engine at times, the response is better than adequate.

Plus the transmission is well sorted, with smooth shifts that are predictable.

The braking response is definitely better without weight on board, with a decent progression to the pedal and decent bite when you press hard on the anchors.

The side steps are set close to the sills and, therefore, a bit narrow for size 12 boots, but big handles on the A and B pillars assist climbing aboard, where you’re rewarded with a spacious driving position with multiple adjustments.

The analogue-flavoured RHD dash module has numerous physical dials, buttons and switches, which thankfully leaves minimal reliance on distracting touchscreen prompts. Some items, like the left-hand-side indicator stalk and HVAC controls, are biased towards LHD, but you soon get used to these idiosyncrasies.

Its excellent steering feel, braking response, supple but responsive four-coil ride quality and effective noise insulation are what we’ve come to expect from WAG’s extensive remanufacturing process. In the Tundra’s case, it uses many original equipment components from existing Toyota 4WD vehicles and OEM suppliers.

The V6 engine produces a meaty V8-style soundtrack, with a melodic throb at idle and a guttural roar at full throttle. From standing starts, the abundant torque gets more than 2.8 tonnes of pickup to triple-digit speeds in about six seconds, which is comparable to Ford's sporty Ranger Raptor.

The hybrid drivetrain displays excellent refinement, as it continuously and seamlessly switches between petrol and electric power to optimise performance and economy. The Tundra is also an effortless highway cruiser, with negligible tyre and wind noise at 110km/h allowing conversations at loungeroom levels.

To test its load-hauling ability we strapped just over 500kg into the load tub, which with our two-man crew equalled a total payload of 675kg that was nudging its GVM limit. The coil-spring rear suspension only compressed 50mm, leaving ample bump-stop clearance and no risk of bottoming-out on our test route.

It made light work of hauling this payload in city and suburban driving and didn’t seem to notice it had anything in the load tub on our 13 per cent gradient, 2.0km set-climb at 60km/h.

Engine-braking on the way down, in a manually-selected second gear, wasn’t as robust as expected given the assistance of regenerative braking, but the large four-wheel disc brakes were more than capable of keeping speeds under 60km/h when called upon during the descent.

Like its local US competitors, the RHD Tundra does not have an ANCAP rating but comes with a suite of passive and active safety features. These include eight airbags, AEB with day cyclist detection and day/night pedestrian/oncoming vehicle detection, lane-keeping, trailer sway control, trailer back-up guide with straight path assist (makes reversing a trailer easy and safe), blind-spot monitoring, rear cross-traffic alert, front/rear parking sensors, panoramic view monitor and more. The rear seat has two ISOFIX and two top-tether child-seat anchorages.

LDV isn’t close to the leaders in the segment for ownership, with a behind-the-times three-year/100,000km warranty (admittedly with the same cover for roadside assist), and no capped price servicing plan. 

Service intervals are every 12 months/10,000km, which is short, and you need to get an initial service done at 5000km, too. 

If you’re worried about long-term longevity, you can check out our LDV G10 problems page.

The Tundra comes with Toyota’s five-year/unlimited-kilometre warranty, which is class-leading.

Scheduled servicing is six months/10,000km whichever occurs first, with capped-pricing of $450 per service for the first five years/100,000km. So, that’s $900 annually, if serviced twice a year as scheduled.

Toyota currently has 275 dealers across its vast network located in metro, rural and regional areas. Toyota dealerships are also service centres.