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Used Holden VS Statesman review: 1995-1999
By Graham Smith · 25 Jun 2004
If the battle between Falcon and Commodore is the main title bout in the local market, then the battle between the Fairlane and Statesman is the main support.  Today, Fairlane and Statesman have to contend with a large number of prestige and luxury cars from Europe and Japan. But while they might have lost some of their gloss they still offer more sheetmetal for the dollar, so if size matters there's little to compare with the local long-wheelbase sedans.Model watchIn 1995 the Commodore was going from strength to strength and the Statesman was tagging along, picking up the same improvements in design and build quality that were making such an improvement to the VR and VS Commodores.Most notably the 3.8-litre V6 engine was improved. Not only did it put out 13 per cent more power, 147kW at 5200rpm, and better fuel economy, it was also significantly smoother than the previous V6.The ECOTEC V6 came in for a major overhaul with a new, stiffer cylinder block, lightweight high compression pistons, new lighter cylinder heads, a new throttle body and sequential fuel-injection.The four-speed auto was also revised. It had greater computing power and a revised shift pattern to improve throttle response and fuel consumption. The Statesman also had Holden's well-developed 5.0-litre pushrod V8 as an option. With fuel-injection the V8 was putting out 168kW at 4400rpm.  To achieve much desired rear seat room in the Statesman, Holden added 95mm to the Commodore wheelbase and 128mm to the overall length.The VS II update in 1996 brought oval-shaped side indicator lamps, a restyled grille, while cup holders appeared inside along with chrome door handles. Underneath, the VS II got self-levelling suspension.The other big news in the VS II was the introduction of the supercharged 3.8-litre V6 engine which promised the punch of the V8 and an economy more in line with the V6. A further minor update, the VS III, was launched in 1998, and that included fog lamps and new alloys.In the shopThe VS Statesman was generally reliable, but now up to 10 years old it's really reaching the age when increasing problems could reasonably be expected.  Little goes wrong with the ECOTEC V6 engine, but while inspecting the engine for oil leaks, look carefully around the power steering pump for oil leaks, and take a look underneath at the rack and pinion as these are prone to oil leaks as well.The Statesman's auto transmission stands up quite well, but can need a rebuild at about the 200,000km mark. Observe carefully for a reluctance to shift up and a bumpiness when shifting, during a road test. Also, listen for any diff or rear axle bearing noise, both of which are increasingly likely to develop as the odometer climbs into the 200,000km range.Holden's electrical systems are generally reliable, but fuel pumps can be troublesome, and heater core failures are becoming more common (replacements cost $250 to $600).  As with all cars, servicing is crucial to keep them in good running order, so check for a verifiable service record.Owner's viewPeter Enzinger bought his 1996 VS II supercharged Statesman in 1999 with 30,000km on the odometer. It has now done 112,000km and he rates it the most comfortable and best handling car he's ever driven. Apart from servicing, fan belts and brake pads, he has had no problems.  Robert Leach's 1995 VS V6 Statesman has travelled just under 160,000km. After some early teething problems, he's now very happy with the car.Look forBe careful of high-mileage carsDistinctive panoramic rear windowLarge bootLots of rear-seat room for back seat driversRobust Holden mechanicalsSmooth, refined transportRating: 14/20 Smartly styled and affordable prestige car that won't break the bank, but be careful of cars with high mileage.  
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Don't tolerate it
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 05 May 2005

YOURS is not the only car that has failed to respond to the fix. Others have been rebuilt more than once. I would recommend you reject the area manager's assessment and pursue a fix, probably another rebuild. I would doubt that the rattle will get any worse and it's unlikely to cause any major problem in the long term, but it sure will be an annoyance now that you hear it. I wouldn't be so concerned about the rattle, but I would be careful about high oil consumption. I would certainly get it fixed.

The mad clatter
Answered by Graham Smith · 05 May 2005

ON THE basis of your description I can only conclude that your engine is a classic example of the problems that have afflicted the Gen III V8. The clatter you hear at start-up is probably piston rattle. It's also the more subdued rattle you mention at idle after start-up. You don't mention oil consumption, but some Gen III V8s use oil at a rather high rate. There is a fix. Holden replaces the pistons and rings, and it's mostly successful. Go back to your dealer and insist it be fixed.

Unstatesmanlike noises
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 23 Sep 2004

IT'S impossible to be sure without listening to the noise you complain about but it does sound like the piston rattle that afflicts many Gen III V8s. Some 5.7-litre engine Gen III V8s suffered from piston rattle, some from high oil consumption, some from both. Holden's fix is to fit new, tighter, Teflon-coated pistons. I would persist with the dealer until you get a satisfactory resolution. On the face of it, you have cause for complaint.

Admired statesman
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 05 May 2005

IF IT is in good condition it may go up in value, but it will take many years. The problem is that the HZ is yet to be regarded as a classic so it's valued more as an old used car than a collectable. Right now it's worth $3000-$5000, depending on condition, but given time it could rise to double that. You can identify the colour from the code on the build plate attached to the firewall. Take the code to an automotive paint specialist and they will be able to give you the name.

Help me convert
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 13 May 2004

YOU don't say whether you want a newish model or an older classic-style car. There isn't a modern convertible capable of carrying five adults in comfort, the roof mechanism usually takes up some back-seat space, making it more cramped than an equivalent five-seat coupe. As far as lopping the top off a Statesman, yes, it's possible, but I wouldn't recommend it. Converting a sedan into a convertible requires engineering experience, and money. It's more difficult in a four-door such as the Statesman than it is with a two-door coupe. If you really want to pursue the idea, consult a VicRoads engineer who could advise you on the difficulties. Rather than that, I recommend you buy an American convertible from the 1960s or '70s. A full-size B-body Chev, Pontiac, Buick or Cadillac would easily carry five adults, and would be a cool cruiser. It would also be a lot cheaper than converting a Statesman.

Gas backfire worry
Answered by Carsguide.com.au · 11 Aug 2005

I ASKED the experts at LPG Australia. Their opinion is that plastic is fine when new, but over time deteriorates and can become increasingly brittle. If, for whatever reason, a brittle plastic manifold were subject to extra pressure during a backfire on LPG with a first or second-generation system (where air and fuel are mixed in the manifold), then damage could result. Based on that, I would opt for the sequential vapour injection, even though it costs more. The only injection system that I know of being offered commercially for the 5.7-litre V8 is through Victorian Autogas (a Tartarini system) which is a slave system. It takes an injector pulse and seems to sort out the mixture at high revs. Victorian Autogas has tested the system on an SS Commodore with success. They can be contacted on 1800 620 945.

Moke auto motive
Answered by CarsGuide team · 22 Sep 2005

I'M SURE you could fit an auto to the Moke. After all, the Mini was sold with automatic transmission and the Moke is just a Mini in fatigues. If you really want to do it, try Northern Mini Parts who, I'm sure, could do a transplant for you. But I wouldn't recommend doing the conversion. Get a friend to go with you and learn to drive the Moke in manual form.

V6 sold short
Answered by Graham Smith · 05 Mar 2004

It's largely prejudice based on a perception that supercharged engines (or turbo engines) are less reliable than normally aspirated engines. Apart from the bearings in the blower, the supercharged V6 in the Commodore and Statesman is quite reliable.

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