Kia Seltos vs Lexus Lm350H

What's the difference?

Kia’s updated Seltos is more expensive than the previous version but it's better as well.

The entry grade no longer has hubcaps and gets alloy wheels, all grades have directional air vents in the second row, the jerky dual-clutch auto is gone and an excellent regular eight-speed auto has arrived, plus there’s more safety tech and modern displays screens.

What hasn’t changed is the Seltos’s size. It’s a big, small SUV, that’s easy to park in tight spaces but roomy inside even for tall, awkward humans like me. 

The sweet spot in the range is the Sport+ with the 1.6-litre engine, if only it had the LED headlights that only come on the GT-Line.

Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with meals provided.

The Lexus LM is going to be a niche model. This was not designed to appeal to people that may have bought a Toyota Tarago back in the day, or even a Kia Carnival now.

It has a specific purpose for ferrying people around in absolute comfort and at that, it succeeds in a big way.

It’s just a bonus that it’s great to drive.

Welcome to the automotive equivalent of a business class airline suite.

Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with accommodation and meals provided.

This updated Seltos has had a few styling tweaks, too. The grille is taller and  there’s a new headlight design which on the GT-Line is stunning with its LED running lights.

The rear of the Seltos has been restyled as well, with a new tail-light design and again on the GT-Line there’s an LED strip which runs between them.

The Seltos is pretty big for a small SUV. At 4.4m long it’s bigger than a Hyundai Kona and a Honda HR-V and about the same size as a Nissan Qashqai and Corolla Cross.

What’s good about that is you’re getting more space inside with a package that’s still smallish on the outside.

If you think the Seltos’ look is familiar, then I agree. The Honda HR-V and Haval Jolion have very similar tail-light designs and the profile follows many of the same styling cues of the Toyota Corolla Cross.

To my eyes, though, I think the Seltos is the more refined looking of its peers with a more modern and interesting interior.

Speaking of which, keep in mind that the top-of-the-range GT-Line’s cabin is far more fancy than the interior of the entry grade S. The GT-line’s large double digital displays are impressive and the buttons around the shifter for seat heating and ventilation are replaced with blank plastic panels in the S. 

Hard plastic armrests were another of my gripes about the previous entry grade Seltos, too.

Still all cabins have a premium look even if the feel isn’t luxurious throughout on all grades. 

Look, people movers are not considered the sexiest of automotive body styles, but that’s changing.

The Kia Carnival and Hyundai Staria are examples of good MPV design.

And the Lexus LM steps it up again. 

It is based on Toyota’s TNGA-K architecture that underpins a bunch of Toyota and Lexus models, including the Lexus RX, and it measures a whopping 5.1 metres long and has a three-metre wheelbase.

It shares its underpinnings with the latest generation Japanese-market Toyota Alphard, which is a cult hit in Australia among the grey import set.

The front-end design is bold, with the latest take on Lexus’ big ‘spindle grille’, pinched slimline headlights and a stubby nose. 

I am a big fan of this design. It is far more than a box on wheels and it has quite a bit of presence. 

The interior design up front is modern Lexus, with a few familiar Toyota touches, and while it’s not exactly minimal, it’s still visually appealing.

Some small SUVs are seriously small, which might be fine for some, but if you’re hoping to also have enough space for passengers in the back seats, and a boot which can carry plenty of luggage then the Seltos is a good choice.

Even at 191cm tall I had more than enough room to sit behind my driving position with good headroom back there, too.

Cabin storage is also good with door pockets front and rear, and a deep centre console box. As for cupholders there are two up front on all grades, while the Sport+ and GT-Line get two more in the second row fold-down armrest.

Boot capacity depends on if you’ve requested a full-sized spare wheel or the space-saver spare. With the space-saver you’ll have more room at 469 litres, while the full-sized wheel under the boot floor will leave you with 433 litres. That’s still decent for the class.

The new Seltos has directional air vents for back seat passengers which is a win (motoring journalists had been complaining about the lack of them for years) and there are also two USB ports (Type-C) for the second row along with another two for those in the front, plus a 12V outlet.

While most of the fun happens in the second row of the Lexus LM, there is a lot to like in the front compartment.

The dash is dominated by a large touchscreen that houses Lexus’ latest multimedia setup. The logical menu and uncomplicated sub-menus ensure this is an easy system to navigate. Speaking of, the in-built sat-nav is one of the better systems I have experienced. 

Comfort isn’t just the domain of the second row - the driver’s seat is very supportive and comfortable, with power adjustment.

There’s plenty of glass including a smaller front quarter window that helps eliminate front blind spots, so forward visibility is exceptional. Rearward visibility is aided by the digital rear-view mirror that is designed to ensure privacy for second and third-row occupants. You don’t want the chauffeur spying on you while you’re sleeping, do you?

The other big tick for me is the driving position. Other people movers, namely the Hyundai Staria and Mercedes-Benz EQV, have very low window lines and it leaves you with a feeling of sitting on the car, rather than in it. I am sure it helps with extra light and it probably makes it easier for kids to see out of, but from a driving perspective, I find it a little disconcerting.

But the LM has flipped that. The front compartment is designed in such a way that it feels like a cockpit that you’re ensconced in. This helps the driver feel more connected with the car, and in the LM it feels like you’re sitting in the driver’s seat of a sporty sedan, not a five-metre bus. Very well done, Lexus.

And now to the main event - the second row.

Where to begin. Let’s start with space. Because there is so much of it. Unsurprisingly given the seating layout, there is an unending amount of head, leg, knee, bum, shoulder and whatever-else room. I can’t imagine anyone complaining about space back there.

Also, getting in and out is a breeze thanks to the sliding power doors on both sides. These can be opened from the front seat, and via several buttons in the rear.

Those captain’s seats are plush. Not quite Benz S-Class plush, but still.

They are adjustable six ways - power adjustable, of course - and they’re heated and ventilated. They recline almost flat, too, if you need a nap on the way to the country estate. And while you do that you can look up through the split sunroof, or close the shade a number of ways.

Is there a massage function? Of course there is a massage function. And it’s not bad. You can choose two settings - weak and firm.

Adding to the feeling of a business class airline seat, there is a fold-out table in the armrest, although it’s a smallish one. And there is dual-zone climate control in the rear.

There is a roof-mounted control panel for things like climate, sunshades and sunroof blinds, but much of this can also be controlled by the Apple iPhone-like devices clipped into both rear seats. These are closer to the seats, so it is easier to access than the roof.

Another function in the device is the Climate Concierge that features different modes - Dream, Relax, Focus, Energise. Depending on which one you choose, it alters the seat settings, massage, climate and lights to suit.

I love the massively wide side windows that are tinted (or privacy glass), too.

Other amenities include map pockets, knee and roof-mounted air vents and a 14.0-inch display screen that retracts from the roof and connects to an HDMI cable, allowing you to watch whatever you want.

The third row is not as appealing as the second. It is technically a three-person row, but the width and the fact that it has a sizeable gap in the centre suggests that this is best thought of as a six-seater van.

The seats are not as plush of course, so you might not want to spend too much time in that row unless you are a small child. But you do get USB-C ports, cupholders, air vents, lights, sunglasses holder, power side shades and grab handles.

Getting in and out of the third row can take a while. It’s all power adjustable, so you don’t have to lift anything heavy - but it takes a while for the second row seats to move forward and up.

With all seats in place the cargo space is limited. In fact, it’s just 110 litres.

That’s similar to what you get in a seven-seat SUV. But it did fit all our overnight luggage easily.

Drop the rear row and that expands to a maximum of 1191 litres in the 350h or 752 litres in the 500h.

All grades have a space-saver spare wheel.

From launch there will be two versions of the LM350h Sports Luxury on offer - front-wheel drive and all-wheel drive, priced from $160,888 and $165,888 before on-road costs respectively.

They both have seven seats across three rows and share the same four-cylinder hybrid powertrain, but an even more high-end version is on the horizon.

The LM500h will land in January 2024, priced from $220,888, and it adopts a newer more powerful hybrid powertrain. Something else that sets the LM500h apart is the seating layout - it is a four-seater. Behind the driver and front passenger compartment are two big captain’s chairs that recline flat if required. Decadent luxury. Or so the pictures suggest. We will have to wait until the New Year to sink into the sumptuous seats.

Given the positioning and interior layout, the LM will probably not appeal to people looking at a Kia Carnival, or who would have opted for the departed Toyota Tarago. It will, however, appeal to large families that aren’t short of a dollar, airport limo operators, and even as tourist transport.

Thankfully, there’s a substantial amount of standard gear fitted as standard in the LM.

The only difference in spec between the two 350h grades is the addition of all-wheel drive. Otherwise you’ll find keyless entry and start, front heated seats, automatic retractable side steps, power opening side doors, rear privacy glass, a pair of sunroofs, and semi-aniline or L-aniline upholstery.

Tech-wise, there is a digital rearview mirror, and a 14.0-inch touchscreen, a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster, a head-up display, seven USB ports, a smartphone charger and a rear 14.0-inch multimedia display.

The 500h adds niceties like a separation partition with elevating and dimmable glass, that doubles as a 48.0-inch widescreen display to watch films and TV, or take conference calls with. It also gets two partition glove boxes, a pair of umbrella holders, two second-row phone chargers, a 23-speaker Mark Levinson 3D audio system and more.

In terms of rivals, there really aren’t many other luxury people movers on the market. Aside from the Mercedes-Benz V-Class and all-electric EQV, there are higher-grade versions of the Volkswagen Multivan, and the LDV Mifa 9 EV.

The Seltos range has two engines to choose from: a 2.0-litre four-cylinder petrol engine making 110kW/180Nm and a 1.6-litre turbo-petrol engine producing even more grunt at 146kW/265Nm.

The 2.0-litre engine comes with a CVT which is a type of automatic transmission and the 1.6-litre engine has an eight-speed auto.

CVT stands for Continuously Variable Transmission and some people (me included) find the droning they cause the engine to make to be annoying. They also come with a feeling of less acceleration. 

The good news is the eight-speed auto that comes with the 1.6-litre is a great transmission with smooth shifts and a sporty nature that matches the punchy engine. 

This eight-speed auto is welcome because it also replaces the jerky dual-clutch transmission that had been paired with the 1.6-litre engine in the previous Seltos.   

All-wheel drive is only available with the 1.6-litre engine while front-wheel drive comes solely with the 2.0-litre.

So, if you’re after great acceleration and better traction then the 1.6-litre is the way to go. If you’re not after a sporty driving experience then the 2.0-litre engine will suit you, and it costs less.

There are two hybrid powertrains available. Coming next year, the LM500h combines a 2.4-litre turbocharged petrol engine and a hybrid setup, making for power and torque of 202kW and 460Nm respectively. It is all-wheel drive and is paired with a six-speed automatic transmission.

The LM350h comes with a 2.5-litre naturally aspirated petrol engine and a parallel hybrid system, offering up a total system output of 140kW and 239Nm. The 350h comes in front or all-wheel-drive guise and uses a continuously variable transmission (CVT).

The smaller engine actually uses more fuel, but not a great deal more. Kia says the 1.6-litre engine with all-wheel drive uses 7.4L/100km after a combination of open and urban roads. The 2.0-litre engine according to Kia will use half a litre less at 6.9L/100km.  

Both engines only need 'standard' 91 RON petrol, too - that’s the cheap one.

Where is the hybrid variant? Good question. The answer is, there isn’t one. And neither is one coming, I’ve asked. That’s disappointing considering the Corolla Cross comes with a hybrid version of each grade in its line-up.

It’s for this reason the Seltos range scores a lower mark for fuel efficiency.

As you’d hope with an all-hybrid line-up, the LM excels when it comes to combined cycle fuel efficiency. The 350h FWD sips just 5.5 litres per 100 kilometres, while the AWD version is 5.6L/100km. The 500h is a little thirstier at 6.6L. 

Our drive was so brief we did not get to record an on-test fuel figure.

The theoretical range of the LM, considering the 60-litre fuel tank and 5.5L/100km (350h) and 6.6L/100km (500h) fuel consumption figures is about 1000km.

The Kia Seltos has two personalities. The laid back Seltos with a 2.0-litre engine and the enthusiastic sporty Seltos with the 1.6-litre engine.

Regardless of which Seltos you pick, the ride is comfortable, the handling is good, and the steering is excellent. 

Kia says it's worked to make the Seltos’s cabin more insulated from road noise, but having driven it on country roads for hours I think it could do with more sound dampening.

If you’re considering the Sport+ grade and are not sure if the $3500 premium for the 1.6-litre engine is worth it, my answer would be absolutely, if you can afford it.

That 1.6-litre turbo petrol is a great engine and the new eight-speed transmission is excellent. Even as a daily driver I think anybody would enjoy driving this version of the Seltos more, and for those who like sporty driving then it’s definitely the powerplant for you.

As mentioned earlier, I spent much more time in the second row as a passenger than I did behind the wheel of the LM350h. But it was enough time to capture some initial high-level drive impressions.

But let’s start in the rear. The ride in the second row is comfortable - as you’d hope. Our trek from Melbourne’s inner north down to the Mornington Peninsula included a lot of freeway, which was smooth. The only thing that disturbed the peace was a chunky bridge join that caused a bit of a thump. But we were hardly disturbed. 

Back in the driver’s seat, there’s a lot to like about how the LM350h drives. First of all, it feels smaller on the road than its ample dimensions would otherwise suggest. It even feels relatively light on the road. 

After the LM, I drove a Mercedes-Benz EQE SUV that has a similar kerb weight (the Lexus is about 2.4 tonnes), and the LM felt lighter.  

The hybrid powertrain is responsive enough, offering decent acceleration from a standing start. The more potent 500h will of course be quicker.

The transition from electric to petrol propulsion is pretty smooth in Lexus (and Toyota) models these days, and the additional noise-deadening materials in the LM ensure it’s subtle.

The 2.5-litre petrol engine is really only noticeable when accelerating hard, and the CVT a slight drone, but it’s in no way unpleasant. 

Otherwise it’s a superbly refined and quiet cabin on all but the absolute worst road surfaces. Whisper quiet power windows adds to that feeling of luxurious refinement.

Given the brief time behind the wheel, we didn’t get to test the handling capability of the LM, so that might have to wait for a review in the New Year. 

The steering is heavily weighted and doesn’t feel overly responsive, but it’s perfectly suited to this sort of vehicle.

That supple ride we experienced in the rear was also evident behind the wheel.

This was especially impressive on a couple of pock-marked peninsular back roads. The ride is also much more compliant than the Mercedes-Benz EQV I tested early in 2023.

The LM is yet to be crash tested by ANCAP, and it is unclear if it will be given the fact that it’s a niche model. However, as with other current Lexus models, it has a long list of standard safety gear.

The safety suite, including intersection assist, and a pre-collision system with vehicle, pedestrian, bicyclist and daytime motorcyclist detection.

It also comes with emergency steering assist, full-speed radar cruise control, ‘Curve Speed Reduction’, ‘Lane Trace Assist’ with lane-departure alert, automatic high beam, ‘Road-Sign Assist’ (speed signs only), ‘Emergency Driver Stop System’, a blind-spot monitor and rear cross-traffic alert.

The Seltos is covered by Kia’s seven-year, unlimited-kilometre warranty. 

Servicing differs between the two engines.

A Seltos with a 1.6-litre engine needs to be serviced every 12 months or 10,000km and over seven years the average service cost comes to $497 per year.

A Seltos with the 2.0-litre engine needs to be serviced every 12 months or 15,000km and over seven years the average service costs comes to $434 per year.

Capped price servicing is good, but the prices can get higher than $600 for some visits.

When you buy a Lexus, you get a bit more than a car. The brand has a customer loyalty program - Lexus Encore - and depending on what model you buy, you are eligible for some pretty cool discounts, bonuses and experiences. 

There are three tiers, depending on your model. UX, NX, RX and ES fall under regular Encore, and electric models the RZ and UX300e sit beneath Electrified Benefits. But the LM, as well as the LS, LC and LX are under Encore Platinum - the top tier. 

That means access to the ‘On Demand’ program that allows access to another Lexus model for a few days or longer. So if you own an LC Convertible but need an RX for a few days to ferry people around, that’s all free. There’s valet parking service loans and more.

It also includes upgrades at Lexus partners. Our launch took us to Jackalope Hotel on the Mornington Peninsula, which is a Lexus partner, and you can get a bunch of extras here as a Lexus owner that other guests won’t get.

In terms of other ownership details, the LM is covered by a five-year, unlimited-kilometre warranty, and the servicing schedule is every 12 months or 15,000km.

Lexus is yet to announce the capped-price servicing details for LM, but it is expected to cover five years, and should be in the vicinity of approximately $700 per service.