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Used Holden Commodore review: 2006-2009
By Graham Smith · 21 Apr 2011
A billion dollars and five years in the making the VE Commodore was a make or break model for Holden, and in many ways it also represented the future of the traditional Aussie big family car.MODEL WATCHThere was heaps riding on the VE Commodore when Holden launched it, the company had gambled heavily on being able to keep the old style large car alive in a market that was moving towards smaller cars.With its carved curves, chiseled lines and pumped wheel arches it was a good looking car.  Compared to the previous model it was also longer, wider, taller with a larger footprint, with a similar cabin that could seat five adults, and larger boot.  At the same time it was heavier, and there was only a small improvement in fuel economy, an important consideration when buying a car at the time.The Omega's engine was a 3.6-litre all-alloy V6 with double overhead camshafts and variable valve timing that put out 180kW at 6000rpm and 330Nm at 2600rpm.  It was also offered with an Impco-developed vapour-injection dual-fuel (LPG) system. In that form it's peak performance was 175kW at 6000rpm and 325Nm at 2600rpm.There was just the one transmission on offer in the Omega, it was a solid four-speed that had been recalibrated in VE for improved smoothness and shifting. Final drive, as with all Commodores, was through the rear wheels.Underneath it had all-independent suspension front and back and larger disc brakes.  Inside, the Omega was roomy with a well laid-out, well-equipped cabin boasting quality fittings and comfortable seats.IN THE SHOPService intervals for the Omega was 15,000 km. Check for a service record, proper maintenance is the key to a long life for a car.  Overall the VE was well built and is generally reliable, although the early cars suffered by production gremlins that were ironed out quite quickly.IN A CRASHAt launch the Omega had ABS brakes, ESP stability control and traction control with electronic brake distribution and emergency brake assistance overlaid with dual front airbags. When tested by ANCAP it was given four stars out of five.  In October 2008 Holden added head and side airbags, which enabled it to achieve a 5-star ANCAP rating.Parents often opt for a Commodore when buying cars for their beginner driver offspring, believing its solid build and overall safety will keep their kids safe, but a powerful engine with rear drive can often bring inexperienced drivers undone. The addition of ESP as standard equipment on the VE makes it a much better choice for a young driver than earlier models that don't have the important safety feature.UNDER THE PUMPHolden's claim for the 3.6-litre V6 petrol Omega was 10.5L/100km, the company's claim for the dual-fuel (LPG) engine was 16.0L/100km.Carsguide reader Dave Markham's Series 1 Omega V6 averages 12.5 L/100   km around town and 7.0 L/100 km on the highway.HOLDEN OMEGAPrice new: $34,490Engine: 3.6-litre V6 petrol; 180 kW at 6000 rpm/330 Nm at 2600 rpm;   3.6-litre V6 dual-fuel; 175 kW at 6000 rpm/325 Nm at 2600 rpmTransmission: 4-speed auto; rear-wheel driveEconomy: 10.9 L/100 km (petrol), 16.0 L/100 km (LPG)Body: 4-door sedanSafety: 4 stars ANCAP before 2008; 5 stars after 2008Expect to pay: $11,500-$22,000 (petrol); $13,000-$23,500 (dual-fuel)VERDICTBig, roomy family car that performs, handles, and rides well. Hard to   beat if you need the space. ***1/2Price: $11,500 plusCOMING UPDo you own or have you owned a Nissan Murano? Share your experience   with other Carsguide readers by sending your comments via e-mail to   grah.smith@bigpond.com or write to Carsguide, PO Box 4245, Sydney,   NSW, 2010.WE DRIVE THEMFord fan Geoff Warham is on his third VE Commodore, he drives them in   the course of his work doing around 70,000 km per year. In that time   he has only had to have a windscreen washer bottle replaced under   warranty on one them; the dealer put it down to poor quality plastic.   His current car is a Series I VE with the 3.0-litre SIDI V6 and 6-  speed auto."There is definitely an improvement in fuel economy, I can now easily   get more than 840 km from a tank highway driving without fear of   running out where I could only get 750 km from the previous model."Dave Markham drives a 2006 VE Commodore Omega that he bought second   hand in 2008. While overall he's happy with it he has had to repair   leaking heater hoses, replace worn anti-roll bushes and update the   software in a faulty computer."Apart from the above issues my car has been trouble free and what I   mainly like is the handling and smooth ride."
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The VY oil cooler is in the radiator and is generally trouble free, but the guys at AW Automatics recommend an external cooler for all towing applications.

Holden Berlina fuel reading
Answered by Graham Smith · 27 Apr 2011

It’s hard to say in absolute terms how accurate it is, but it is the most accurate indicator we have, given that the information comes directly from the injection system itself, and actually measures the fuel going into the engine. The claimed fuel consumption for the V6 VY Berlina was 6.6 on the highway and 11.00 around town, with an average of 8.2 L/100 km, which makes me think your car is about right.

Think seriously about LPG conversion
Answered by Graham Smith · 28 Apr 2011

It's unfortunate that you've had a bad experience with LPG, as your car is one that converts well and thousands of motorists have done it. But it is worthwhile talking to a number of converters and owners who have made the switch to get their first hand experience of any troubles they might have had.

 

Ask Smithy Xtra incorrect fuel gauge
Answered by Graham Smith · 10 May 2011

It’s normal practice for carmakers to leave a small reserve in the fuel tank when the gauge indicates that the tank is empty so you don’t completely run out of fuel before you get to a service station. If you really wanted to have the gauge recalibrated take it to an automotive instrument maker.

Holden Calais fuel economy
Answered by Graham Smith · 21 Apr 2011

It's a little higher than I would expect, but roof racks and bikes carriers would have an adverse effect of the fuel consumption, and it would be even more affected by carrying bikes.

Holden Calais lunges forward
Answered by Graham Smith · 27 Apr 2011

It could be that you’re driving on the point of torque convertor lock-up, change your speed when it happens.

 

Ask Smithy Xtra Commodore SV6 on LPG
Answered by Graham Smith · 17 May 2011

We know Impco has a kit for your car, and it’s a respected brand, so you wouldn’t go wrong with that. As far as costs go, a typical sequential vapour-injection system would cost around $4000.

Excessive fuel in Holden Viva
Answered by Graham Smith · 21 Apr 2011

The official fuel economy figure for your car is 8.8 L/100 km, which does suggest that there is something wrong with it. While the official figure is from a dynamometer test done in a laboratory and not necessarily representative of real life, it shouldn't be a long way off the mark as it seems it is in this case. Talk to the dealer and express your concerns to them and ask that they recheck your car and work out a course of action that will identify the cause of the problem, and consider going all the way back to Holden if necessary to get a resolution.

Ask Smithy Xtra Holden Zafira LPG conversion
Answered by Graham Smith · 03 May 2011

Right now you have a car that is worthless, but with a new engine it could be worth as much as $5000, which makes it worthwhile to spend the $4000. Cheaper European cars can become expensive as the kays climb, so I would be inclined to get out of it if you can. It could be converted to LPG, but I wouldn’t recommend you do it, and I doubt you would find a kit to do it.

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