The mystery of just when Toyota and Subaru's performance twins will debut might just have been solved, with Japanese media reporting the new BRZ and 86 will launch in November 2021.
So the wait isn't quite over, but at least the countdown has begun to the launch of the two hotly anticipated, entry-level performance cars.
International reports suggest the next 86 and BRZ will debut roughly 18 months after the current models are removed from sale (expected to be in July this year), and that both will ride on Subaru's SGP platform.
The timing news follows reports - previously published in CarsGuide - that the next Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ will be sporting a non-turbo 2.4-litre engine good for 162kW and 240Nm.
The engine is expected to be a non-turbo version of Subaru's 2.4-litre boxer engine, which would see outputs increased from their current levels (152kW/212Nm).
There were hopes a turbocharged engine would join the party this time around - the 2.4-litre Subaru engine is turbocharged in other applications - but these most recent reports suggest the BRZ and 86 will remain naturally aspirated for now.
According to earlier reports, the new model measures in at 4250mm (width), 1780mm (width) and 1315mm (height), and rides on a 2570mm wheelbase. The new models will be offered with a choice of Aisin-sourced six-speed manual, or an eight-speed automatic.
Toyota and Subaru are yet to confirm details of the new models.