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Or should I say, M-eight-fifty-I. That’s right. This is the all-new, 2020 BMW M850i Gran Coupe, the first ever example of its kind. It’s a big, long, luxury, sporty, coupey thing. And it’s gorgeous.
The BMW 8 Series 2020 range includes this new Gran Coupe body style, and also the Coupe and Convertible models. This particular model, the M850i xDrive Gran Coupe, is essentially BMW’s answer to, say, the Audi RS7. Or one of the many Porsche Panamera variants. Or the Mercedes-Benz CLS or Mercedes-AMG GT 4 door Coupe.
Like those cars it has svelte looks, striking dimensions and a sledgehammer engine under its long, shapely bonnet. This is first ever 8 Series Gran Coupe, as it essentially stands in place of the existing, now defunct, 6 Series Gran Coupe. But it’s bolder, bigger and more brutal - just take note: this isn’t a full-scale ‘M8’ Gran Coupe. It has more of a luxury speed cruiser angle to it, arguably like a Mercedes-AMG CLS 53, not the full-fat AMG 63.
The question is, then, should you buy it over one of its established rivals?
Let’s figure it out together, shall we?
Changing the name of a popular model is a big risk for any car company. Don’t believe me? Ask Nissan Australia how much it enjoyed the switch from Pulsar to Tiida…
Volkswagen is the latest brand to change the name of a critical model, dropping Tiguan Allspace in favour of the new Tayron (pronounced tie-ron). But while the name is new, the fundamental concept behind the SUV is not. It’s essentially a stretched version of the Tiguan - albeit with a few design changes - with the option of two more seats in the back to make it a seven seater (or at least in theory).
That puts the Tayron in competition with a wide array of SUV rivals, including (but not limited to) the Toyota Kluger, Hyundai Santa Fe, Mazda CX-80 and Mitsubishi Outlander. So regardless of what Volkswagen calls it, it will need to be an impressive car to woo buyers in such a competitive segment of the market.
If youâre the sort of buyer who wants a car that signifies a lifestyle that is âlarge and in chargeâ, the BMW M850i Gran Coupe could be just the thing for you. It isnât as showy as some of its competitors, and mightnât reach the same levels of excitement as those cars either - but it is a convincing offering in its own right, and a beautiful piece of design at that.Â
The Tiguan Allspace was not really an iconic Volkswagen badge, not in the same way as the Golf, Polo or even just the Tiguan itself, so the brand has taken a smaller risk than many in changing names. But, to be blunt, it doesnât really matter what the badge on the back is, as long as, at its core, it lives up to the Volkswagen attributes buyers expect - and the Tayron definitely does that.
This new seven-seat SUV is a very welcome addition not only to Volkswagenâs line-up, but to the entire family SUV segment. Itâs competitively priced, enjoyable to drive and very practical. The Tayron has a lot to offer those in the market for family-friendly transport.
That doesnât mean itâs best-in-class, and there are areas where it can be improved, but thereâs no reason why the Tayron shouldnât enjoy the same level of success the Tiguan Allspace enjoyed.
Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with accommodation and meals provided.
This could be BMWâs most convincing design in years. I mean, the X5 is predictably handsome, the X3 was unexpectedly muscled, and the less said about the frumpy 1 Series and busy 3 Series (apart from the wagon⌠drool) the better.
To my untrained but enthusiastic eye, the 8 Series Coupe is a bit too rounded over its rear haunches, and the rear screen is just a little steep - to me, that lets its dimensions down a little. But this. This is gorgeous.Â
I mean, you might have questions over the tail-light design, which is a theme across a few BMW models now. But there isnât as much confrontation between horizontal and vertical graphics for this model as youâll find one other big Bimmers, like the X7.Â
The M850i model has BMW Laserlight headlights, which throw a sharp beam and look menacing in their signature, while the grille and bumper are strong. The stance of the car is prominent - thereâs a long body, a long wheelbase, and a long body in general. The standard wheel package consists of 20-inch rims, and they donât look disarmingly large.
As our images show, thereâs a lot to talk about when it comes interior design and finishes, but the cabin doesnât quite benefit quite as mochas you might think it would from all that real estate. I mean, with dimensions of 5074mm long (on a 3023mm wheelbase), 1932mm wide and 1402mm tall, this is a squat, yet substantial vehicle. Itâs just more cramped than youâd think inside.
Despite the name change, the resemblance between the Tiguan and Tayron is strong, largely because they still share a lot of commonalities.
From the front windscreen forward, they are the same, but the Tayron gets a different lower bumper treatment across the variants to give it a unique front, as well as squared-off wheel arches for further visual separation from Tiguan.
Itâs a similar story at the rear too, with a unique lower bumper to make the pair look different when parked side-by-side.
But where you see the most obvious differences between the pair is from the side, with the Tayron 280mm longer than the Tiguan.Â
Crucially, the wheelbase has been stretched from 2681mm for the Tiguan to 2791mm for the Tayron, adding an additional 110mm of interior space. This means the side profile of the Tayron looks longer too.
Ultimately, while the changes are obvious when the two are side-by-side, thereâs still a clear visual connection between the pair, despite the different names.
I recall a Mitsubishi designer telling me, once upon a time, that he dreamed of making âa big car on the outside with a very small interiorâ. Maybe he made the jump to BMW, because thatâs pretty much the 8 Series Gran Coupe.
There arenât many other vehicles on the market, of this size, that offer less space inside. The boot capacity, for instance, is just 440 litres. Competitors like the Audi A7 (535L) and Mercedes CLS (520L) easily outdo it - but at least this car has more boot than the Panamera (405L), though the BMW is a smidge bigger. The cargo space is large enough for a couple of overnight suitcases, but youâre hardly going to fit a family of fourâs luggage for a week away.Â
And while weâre in the ânot quite what youâd expectâ column, the back seat space is hardly commodious. Thereâs enough space for me, at 182cm, to sit behind my own driving position, but not without wishing for a bit more toeroom, headroom and knee space.Â
The big centre console section eats into the space in the rear, justifying the brandâs â4+1â seating claim, and unpleasantly it has a hard plastic finish to rest your leg against. Getting in and out of the second row isnât easy for bigger people, and itâs quite a squat down into the rear seat - it really has taken inspiration from its squashy-back-seated predecessor in that regard.
If you have smaller rear-seat occupants, however, there will be catered for with dual ISOFIX and three top-tether points, plus there are air vents with climate controls (quad zone in total), and two USB-C ports as well. There are sun-blinds on the rear windows, too, which is a plus, and there is a pair of cup holders in the fold-down armrest, and map pockets in the seat backs, too. The door pockets are near-useless, though.
The front seats score better practicality, with bottle holders in the doors, bigger and sturdier cup holders, a covered centre storage bin between the seats with a USB-C port, and a wireless phone charger (Qi) with standard USB port in front of the gear selector.
Above that is the weird, very out-of-place quick buttons (1-8) that BMW could easily do away with, and further up are the controls for the climate control (thankfully with hard buttons for fan speed and temperature), and above that is the media screen, a familiar looking 10.25-inch touch display running BMW OS 7.0.Â
The screen is quick and crisp, and is backed up by the rotary controller and buttons on in the centre console area. Thereâs wireless Apple CarPlay (now at no cost for three years), as well as a built-in SIM card for 4G data and access to the BMW Online news and weather stations, accessed through the screen. Â
Itâs all pretty easy to use, and the sound system is excellent - the standard setup consists of 16 speakers, with DAB+ digital radio, Bluetooth and USB plus the smartphone mirroring tech, provided you donât have an Android device, as Android Auto is still missing from BMWâs range.
Itâs a nice cabin, but I couldnât help but thinking that Iâd want a little more differentiation from the lesser models in the range if I was spending this much. Especially considering the optional cost of the interior trim fitted to our test car - see below for more detail.
Volkswagenâs reputation for being âsemi-premiumâ came in part because it offered an elevated in-car experience compared to many of its mainstream rivals. And that is very much the case with the new Tayron, which is loaded with the latest technology but still looks and feels like a Volkswagen.
The interior is dominated by the central screen, which at 15 inches on the 150TSI Elegance and 195TSI R-Line pushes to the very limits of how big and how high an multimedia screen like this can be practically and safely included in a car. While itâs not the biggest in-car screen, it sits right at the top of the centre of the dashboard and almost gets in the way of vision across the bonnet.
The (slightly) smaller 12.9-inch display in the rest of the range is obviously better, but both screens are generous in size and offer good touchscreen usability, with fast reactions and relatively straightforward menus.
However, what neither offers is much in the way of physical switchgear, so most controls need to be changed via the touchscreen, which is not the easiest or safest way to interact with a vehicle youâre trying to drive.
But overall the cabin design is nice and what weâve come to expect from Volkswagen. The materials look and feel high quality and thereâs a nice mix to create a more premium-feeling environment.
One notable element is the extra storage in the console between the front seats, which includes a clever spot for two smartphones to wirelessly charge, with a lid on top for added usable space.
As for the practicality, that really depends on your point-of-view and reasons for needing a seven-seat SUV. Thatâs because the Tayron, like the Tiguan Allspace before it, is not really a true seven-seater but rather more accurately described as a â5+2â SUV.Â
What that means is, the third-row seats are for occasional use rather than regular use. So, if you need something to carry five or more passengers (most likely a family with multiple children) on a regular basis, then the Tayron is likely too small for your needs.
If, however, you need a five-seater the majority of the time but would like the option to carry two more if the need arises, then the Tayron is very much worth considering.
Even then, itâs worth noting that the third row is both tight on space (even with the second row slid forward) and there is only limited storage and no air-con vents, charging outlets or even child seat restraints.
Space in the first two rows is good, though, with the second row able to slide backwards and forwards depending on how much space your passengers need.
As for the 150TSI Life, with its unique five-seat layout, well it takes advantage of one of the biggest selling points of the Tayron - itâs big boot.Â
The five-seater gets 885 litres of boot space, thanks in part to some underfloor storage where the seats would normally be. So it will appeal to those who like a mid-size SUV, like the Tiguan, but need extra cargo room on the regular.
As for the seven-seat versions, Volkswagen claims the Tayron has 850 litres with third-row stowed and 345 litres with third row in use. The former is excellent, while the latter is adequate.
The addition of the extra seats means the Tayron is equipped with a space-saver spare wheel, rather than a full-size one.
No-one could level the accusation of affordability at the BMW 8 Series Gran Coupe, as itâs one of the brandâs most expensive models.
This one, the M850i xDrive Gran Coupe, is the range-topping version for 2020, with a list price of $272,900 plus on-road costs.
Where does that plot the BMW against its rivals? Itâs beyond the level that the existing Audi RS7 Sportback was (last sold in 2018 at $261,140), and the Mercedes-AMG CLS 53, which looks like a value offering at $182,740. Also, it splits the difference between and the Mercedes-AMG GT 4 door Coupe variants (GT 53: $251,140; GT 63: $351,640), and could best be considered a contemporary of the Porsche Panamera E-Hybrid AWD ($252,400) or the Panamera 4S ($316,500).
So, look - competitors might matter to you. But thereâs a good chance that if youâre shopping for an 8 Series, youâve already made up your mind that you want the BMW four-door coupe slugger. So hereâs what you need to know about it when it comes to equipment.
Standard it comes with the M Sport styling pack, 20-inch M alloy wheels with run-flat tyres and tyre pressure monitoring, adaptive M suspension with active roll stabilisation, 395mm M brakes, BMW Laserlight headlights, BMW Night Vision infrared camera with pedestrian detection.
Luxury touches include soft close doors, semi-autonomous parking, panoramic glass sunroof (front opening, rear fixed), keyless entry and push-button start and electric auto tailgate, heated and ventilated front seats with electric adjustment including lumbar and bolster, leather seat trim, a 16-speaker harman/kardon sound system, 10.25-inch media screen with gesture and voice control, 12.3-inch digital instrument display, full colour head-up display, ambient lighting and rear sun-blinds.Â
Youâre getting a lot for your money, though our tester had a couple of extras. Metallic paint is included, but no the Frozen Bluestone matte finish our car had ($2600), and the interior piano black trim elements cost $200, as well. Plus the Full Leather Merino finish in Ivory White and Night Blue - that box cost $10,200 to tick. All told, the price as tested before on-roads was $285,900.Â
Volkswagen Australia has spent the last two decades carefully positioning itself as a âsemi-premiumâ car brand, selling buyers on its European design and dynamics while still undercutting the genuine luxury brands.
However, with the influx of new brands and the post-pandemic inflation across the industry, Volkswagen knows it cannot price itself out of reach of the typical family buyer that would look for a Tayron.
Thatâs why the entry-level 110TSI Life starts below $50,000 and both the five-seater 150TSI Life and seven-seat 150TSI Elegance come in under $60k. Itâs only the flagship 195TSI R-Line that blows past $70,000 and pushes back into that true âsemi-premiumâ part of the market.
The decision to have the Tayron around that $50-60,000 mark is no accident, the brand revealed that's the price range many of its buyers prefer to shop in, so theyâve met them where they are.
The 110TSI Life starts at $48,290 (all prices exclude on-road costs) and the more powerful 150TSI Life from $53,990. Both come with 18-inch alloy wheels, keyless entry and ignition, a power tailgate, digital instrument cluster, a 12.9-inch touchscreen multimedia system, in-built navigation, wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, as well as a wireless charger.
Interestingly, the 110TSI comes standard with seven seats, while the 150TSI only has five, but weâll dive into the details on that later.
Next up in the range is the 150TSI Elegance, which is priced from $59,490. It has seven seats as well as 19-inch alloy wheels, LED headlights with an illuminated grille strip, LED tail-lights, chrome roof rails, rear privacy glass, heated steering wheel, leather-appointed upholstery, power adjustable front seats with massage function and heated rear seats.
Finally, the range is crowned by the 195TSI R-Line, starting at $73,490, and equipped with Matrix LED headlights, R-Line exterior and interior styling, progressive steering, a 15-inch touchscreen multimedia system, a head-up display and a Harman Kardon premium sound system.
If youâre going for the M850i, youâre getting the big bopper engine. Itâs a 4.4-litre twin-turbo V8 petrol engine, and it isnât short on horsepower.
The outputs for this engine are 390kW of power (at 6000rpm) and 750Nm of torque (from 1800-4600rpm). Hardly numbers to sneeze at.
And the performance figures are exceptional, too: the claimed 0-100 km/h time is just 3.9 seconds. Thatâs because thereâs the traction of BMWâs xDrive all-wheel drive system, and shifting gears is an eight-speed automatic transmission. Â
For what itâs worth, your humble reviewer saw a 0-100km/h time very close to that (4.2sec).Â
The quoted kerb weight for this model is 1995kg.
There are three powertrain choices for the arrival of the Tayron, but the company has also confirmed two plug-in hybrid variants are coming in 2026.
For now itâs an all-petrol-powered line-up. The 110TSI Life is powered by a 110kW/250Nm 1.4-litre turbocharged four-cylinder petrol engine. This is paired to a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission and sends all its performance via the front wheels only.
The 150TSI gets a bigger 2.0-litre turbocharged four-cylinder engine making, you guessed it, 150kW and 320Nm. It also has a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic but adds all-wheel drive.
Finally, thereâs the 195TSI R-Line, which VW claims offers âGTI levels of performanceâ, so it gets a 2.0-litre turbocharged four-cylinder unit pumping out 195kW and 400Nm. Once again, this is mated to a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission and gets an all-wheel drive system.
While the performance offered by all three powertrains is good, the lack of the hybrid option from launch does cost Volkswagen a point or two.
You canât really expect a big V8 beast like this to be a fuel miser, and it isnât.
The claimed consumption is 10.7 litres per 100 kilometres. Which is alright, honestly, given the sheer volume of car youâre driving.Â
But on my test - which consisted of more than 300km of mixed driving, including days of city commuting, some twisty mountain driving, and all the freeway floundering to get there - I saw an at the pump real-world figure of 15.4L/100km.
Thatâs not very efficient, and itâll be expensive to run on the daily â yet the argument could be made that if youâre spending this much on a car, fuel costs wonât matter much to you. But with a small fuel tank capacity of 68 litres, it could become a little inconvenient as youâll be seeing a lot of your local servo.
Going with a line-up of turbocharged petrol engines means the Tayron isnât the most efficient SUV in its segment, but the addition of the eHybrid PHEVs next year will change that.
In the meantime, what you need to know is that the 110TSI uses 7.6L/100km, the 150TSI has a 7.7L/100km claim and the 195TSI is unsurprisingly the thirstiest at 8.6L/100km.
Those are all relatively high when you compare them to key rivals, such as the Hyundai Santa Fe Hybrid, which uses just 5.6L/100km, the same as the Toyota Kluger Hybrid - and both of those are conventional hybrid systems.Â
The saving grace for VW is the non-hybrid Santa Fe uses 9.3L, so it makes the Tayron look better. But until the Tayron plug-in hybrids arrive, VW is at a disadvantage.
As for driving range, the 110TSI has a 55-litre fuel tank, so a theoretical range of 720km between fueling stops. The 150TSI and 195TSI get a slightly larger 58-litre tank, which means the former has a 750km range and the latter approximately 675km.
Itâs an impressive thing, this M850i xDrive Gran Coupe. But Iâm just not sure who itâs trying to please.
Itâs not the sort of German monster coupe-sedan that grabs you by the scruff of the neck and throws you around with its mammoth acceleration. Not unless you poke it and prod it and make it really angry.
And that might be exactly what you want to do - put it in Sport mode, sling the shifter across to sport or manual mode, hear the exhaust open up from a pursed-lip tongue-click to an open-mouth growl.Â
Youâll push hard on the accelerator, watch the tacho needle jolt to the redline, and if youâre in auto mode youâll feel the transmission whipcrack as it shifts rapidly up through the gears as youâre shoved back into your seat. Before you know it youâll be in licence-loss zone, and you wonât have even made the tyres chirp - thatâs how immense the traction from the all-wheel drive system is.
Youâll brake hard into a sharp bend, and youâll feel the front end dip and the body of the car change direction more readily than youâd think given its size as you turn in. The steering response will meet your expectation, with rapid reaction to adjustments mid corner. And the Active Roll stabilisation system will mean youâre not being thrown around in your seat, because itâs sitting flatter and truer than you might have expected - youâll notice how it works extremely well in conjunction with the carâs torque-vectoring-by-braking system. Thereâll be little weight shift or body roll to be counteracted, and thatâll inspire you to push it even harder.
Put it in manual transmission mode and youâll rejoice that it wonât overrule you and shift up, but youâll also feel shortchanged because it gets to the end of its limit very quickly. And when it hits redline, it emits a breathless little cough rather than a âoh maybe I should stopâ rev-bounce noise.
But, if youâre like me, you might be doing all this with a niggling thought in the back of your mind that, while this car is technically really good and itâs a clinical performance car, you might just think to yourself, âIâm not having as much fun as I thought I wouldâ.
A Mercedes-AMG would be more fun; itâd be more raucous, more of a muscle car experience. An Audi RS7 (at least the previous one) would be noisier, brasher, more theatrical than this car. And likewise, a Porsche Panamera - no matter the model you go for - would be more entertaining in the bends. Â
Maybe itâs just a bit too predictable - and maybe thatâs a result of this car being honed for drivers who will spend more time on the Autobahn than anywhere else. I have to say, there are much, much worse (and slower) ways of getting from A to B, and the highway cruising comfort of the M850i Gran Coupe was what impressed me most.Â
Itâs also surprisingly adept at urban driving duties, coping well with unpleasant city surfaces, though potholes can still upset things because of the stiff-sidewalled run-flat tyres. The suspension does an exceptional job otherwise, however, and I switched between the Adaptive drive mode and Comfort mode for my commuting duties. Both proved comfortable and controlled.
The M850i is by no means a failure when it comes to fulfilling the expectations you might have of a luxury sports sedan of this size. In fact, itâs close to a distinction. But I just canât help thinking that itâs not as much an âM carâ as that M850i badge might have you believe it should be.
Family-friendly SUV or not, a big part of Volkswagenâs âsemi-premiumâ reputation came from its more dynamic and engaging driving experience. While other brands have certainly caught up, and in some cases surpassed VW, it remains a core attribute.
That is very much the case with the Tayron, which has a very well-sorted powertrain and chassis, and that means good performance when you put your foot down and excellent response when you turn the wheel.Â
Obviously nobody really buys a seven-seat SUV for its dynamic qualities but itâs a nice bonus, especially when you are paying this kind of money.
One downside of the dynamics is the responsive handling comes at the cost of firmer suspension, so it can feel busy on bumpy roads.
However, there was a bigger issue on the cars we drove at the official launch event, with several suffering from noticeable rattles from the doors, especially when the road gets choppy.
This is very much not a traditional Volkswagen feature, which typically have very solid build quality, so it will be worth listening for if you take a Tayron for a test drive.Â
The safety equipment fitted to the BMW M850i Gran Coupe as standard is extensive - but this model has not yet been tested by ANCAP or Euro NCAP, so thereâs no safety rating or crash test rating available.
Standard equipment includes BMWâs Driving Assistant Professional system with adaptive cruise control with stop and go in traffic, auto emergency braking with pedestrian and cyclist detection, front and rear cross-traffic alert, lane keeping assist with steering input, blind spot monitoring, âcrossroads warning and evasion aidâ which can help you steer away from potential danger more easily.Â
Thereâs also a comprehensive camera suite with a reversing camera, surround view and forward view camera setup which can adjust based on what part of the parking manoeuvre youâre up to. Plus if you get stuck, the reversing assistant system can remember the last 50 metres you drove and get you out of the spot. Thereâs also a thing called Active Park Distance Control rear, which will apply the brakes when youâre reversing if it thinks youâre getting to close to an impact.
There are six airbags - dual front, front side and curtain - with no rear side airbag protection, which seems odd in a car at this price point but is likely down to packaging. Â
As youâd expect from an all-new model, the Tayron comes loaded with safety equipment, including both passive and active systems.
On the passive side, there are nine airbags, including a centre airbag between the passengers and side curtain âbags that cover the third row occupants.
On the active safety front, there is all the usual stuff you expect these days, including freeway-speed auto emergency braking (AEB) with vulnerable road-user protections and intersection features, lane keeping assist, blind-spot monitoring, both front and rear cross-traffic alert (including pedestrian and cyclist detection), driver attention alert, traffic sign recognition, adaptive cruise control and exit warning.
Volkswagen has also rolled out a new system called Travel Assist, which combines the adaptive cruise control and lane assist to create a semi-autonomous driving function under the right circumstances.
Notably, if you donât like all these systems, Volkswagen says that some of them can be switched off and stay off (rather than defaulting to on every time you start the car). These include the acoustic speed warning and adaptive cruise control for speed limit response and road layout response. However, all the other systems will switch back on every time you start the car.
Which is actually not a bad thing in the case of the Tayron, at least based on our initial drive. Unlike many rivals which feature overly-sensitive systems with annoying âbeeps and bongsâ that can actually become distracting at times, the Volkswagen system is both well calibrated and offers subtle warnings. It makes for a more enjoyable driving experience, while retaining all the benefits of these safety systems.
The Tayron has already earned a five-star rating from Euro NCAP, so the company is expecting the same from ANCAP.
BMW backs its cars in Australia with a three-year/unlimited kilometre warranty.
You may be confused if you head to the BMW site and see that M models and 8 Series models arenât covered by BMWâs pre-pay capped price servicing plan (as I saw when testing this car), but CarsGuide can confirm that the 8 Series is indeed covered - unless itâs the real M8, not this M850i jigger.Â
BMW Australia has clarified that the Service Inclusive pack for five years/80,000km of maintenance cover is $2490 for Basic cover (no brakes/pads, no wiper replacement), or $5641 for the more comprehensive Plus pack. Hardly affordable, but norâs the car.Â
The company uses a condition-based servicing program, too - there are no set service intervals, but the car will tell you when it needs maintenance based on how you drive it.
For what itâs worth, we ran the numbers on resale value using Glassâs Guide predictive analysis tool, and after three years/40,000km the expected retained value for this version is approximately 66 per cent - which is impressive.
The Tayron is covered by VWâs usual five-year, unlimited kilometre warranty. While thatâs not bad, per se, it also not particularly outstanding given the growing number of seven and 10-year coverages.
As for servicing, the Tayron requires a check-up every 12 months or 15,000km, whichever comes first. VW Australia offers either three or five-year Care Plans, which save you money compared to the pay-as-you-go offer.
For the 110TSI a three-year plan costs $1595 (saving $178) and the five-year plan $2910 (saving $528). The 150TSI and 195TSI cost the same, with three years $1891 (saving $211) and five years for $3550 (saving $554).