Audi S8 vs Genesis G80

What's the difference?

The S8's existence is a source of joy for me because it's not a huge SUV. Yes, it's a huge sedan but it's a reminder that the technological flagship is alive and well, at least in Germany. And the important thing about these cars is the way the toys filter down through the rest of the range. That used to take years but we're seeing this cool stuff a lot more quickly, right down to the A1.

The S8 punches, and punches hard in this rarefied part of an already shrunken section of the market - the twin-turbo V8 matches its German rivals, it's lighter and it's as well-stacked as any of the three. What it doesn't do, however, is shout about itself the way the other two do.  It's the incognito choice.

Overall, then, the flagship G80 tries to be docile Clark Kent and the amazing Superman in one. As such, it stretches itself trying to be both a luxury GT and high-functioning sports sedan.

But while it doesn’t quite achieve either perfectly the Genesis gets near enough for most – especially at its exceptional price point.

The sheetmetal is obviously very restrained given it's an Audi first, and secondly, it's just not done to go wild in this part of the market.

It's an A6 that's joined a gym, but didn't join that weird gym with men that can't run after you when you insult them (don't ask how I know this). Rolling on 21-inch wheels as standard, you can go up to massive 22s if you so choose.

The A8 created a subtle redirection of Audi's passenger car look, with the updated A4 and A6 both picking up on the horizontal bar between the rear lights and the huge grille framed by family lights with signature DRL patterns. The S8 builds on that with subtle S cues but nothing even vaguely shouty.

The interior acreage - or 'cabin', if you will - is very comfortable, but you already knew that. The multi-screen layout was first seen in the A8 and has now found its way into A7, Q8 and Q7 and is, as ever, brilliant to look at and use.

The MMI updates that have found their way into other cars are present and correct. Like the exterior, it's very restrained but not to the point of sparse minimalism, despite the lack of switches and buttons.

I really don't like the steering wheel, though, and I can't put my finger on why. It certainly isn't especially sporty-looking but I wonder if the standard flat-bottomed S wheel just looked stupid.

The materials are beautiful and everything fits together perfectly.

Australia never saw the original 'BH'-series Genesis, which was created primarily with US buyers in mind to be a 5 Series alternative at a 3 Series price, complete with rear-wheel drive and advanced chassis dynamics.

Hyundai spun the series off as a stand-alone brand in the mid-2010s within the second-gen 'DH' Genesis’ run (that did include Australia) from 2015, which is when the G80 badge arrived, while the 'RG3' redesign you see here launched in 2020.

What you’re seeing here, then, is a facelift of a half-decade-old design, and doesn’t it give off Bentley vibes? From that blocky nose with its latticed grille to the sleek profile, the five-metre long by two-metre wide G80 passes for a Continental GT wannabe. Particularly in SL guise. And a convincing one at that.

When it comes to the interior, look around. A 27-inch OLED touchscreen takes in the crisp digital instrumentation and slick multimedia displays.

We like the configurable widgets that come complete with pictures for instant recognition, and the fact that Genesis decided to put an equally-user-friendly climate-control screen below, so eyes never need to leave the road once you quickly learn where all the switchgear is.

The cabin is clearly built with rear seat passengers in mind, with rear leg and headroom configured for those continent-crossing drives.

The S8 has plenty of comfort for two rear seat passengers and a few amusing options to while away the hours in traffic or on the autobahn.

That doesn't mean the front seat passengers are in purgatory, with huge but supportive seats adjustable in all conceivable directions.

Front and rear rows score a pair of cupholders and bottle holders while the boot is a handy, if not awe-inspiring, 505 litres.

Size may not be everything, some say, but it sure says a lot when a medium-sized luxury sedan is long enough to swing it with some large Germans. And in this case, the impressive dimensions are enhanced by a three-metre-plus wheelbase.

Behind the soft-close doors, you’re met with a cabin defined by the luxury of space and isolation from the outside world – just what you’d expect from a full-sized flagship sedan. There’s room to stretch in all five seats.

Plus, in the SL, the seats and chunky steering wheel silently whirr out of the way for easier entry and egress, before sliding back to their previous-memory positions.

The front seats are among the best we’ve experienced in a long time, holding and caressing in all the right places. Switching drive modes increases bolstering and/or support, whilst longer thighs will appreciate the extendable ottoman feature. Hot/cold control and a prodding massage function further enhances the users’ pleasure.

As in all Hyundai products the digital instrumentation and media touchscreen are paragons of simplicity and clarity.

Actual knobs for audio, tuning, fan and temperature controls flank these, along with buttons for 'Home', 'Menu', 'Driving Modes', 'Cameras' and parking sensors.

So thoughtful, so easy. Even vision isn’t too bad, aided of course by the surround-views available. This is quite an unintimidating vehicle to judge when parking despite its length.

Issues? The gear selector is the circular variety Jaguar debuted with the original XF during the late 2000s and is a bit clumsy to use; sited in prime console real estate, the cupholder lid is set-up for left-hand drive, meaning it provides a (minor) obstacle for the driver when open; the test car’s carbon-fibre-look trim won’t be to everybody’s taste and there’s no walk-to/away automatic central locking.

Meanwhile, the rear seat is in the spirit of a true limo.

Wide doors allow for easy entry/egress, revealing impressive levels of space for shoulders, hips, knees and feet (though headroom might be a mite tight for taller dos due to the sunroof). The left-side rear occupant can re-position the seat in front automatically to boost legroom even more.

Airliner premium-economy class-style backrest reclination is included. And you can sink yourself or your loose digits into the tactile and aromatic bliss of the perforated Nappa leather, thick pile carpet, suede trimmed pillars and ceiling and quality textures, further upping the luxury ante.

The large folding armrest facilitates access to heating/ventilation, audio, a sunblind, cupholders, phone chargers, USB-C ports and hidden storage.

The fortunate rear-seat passengers also face air vents and a separate climate control panel from the front-seat riders. So decadent. This was clearly designed for chauffer opulence and it shows. Very difficult to fault.

But further back, it isn’t so bountiful. Literally.

The pleasingly plush boot measures in at a smallish 424 litres, and that’s almost 100L down on a 520i’s. And while it comes with a ski or 'Bunnings port', simple folding backrests would have been more practical, particularly for car reviewers who occasionally need to transport their bicycle.

Oh well, that’s what SUVs are for.

The space-saver spare, in lieu of the hated tyre repair kit, is welcome, though. Thank you.

That HSV Grange analogy is pretty close to what the G80 3.5T AWD SL from $121,200 (all prices are before on-road costs) represents, and not just in dimensions and performance.

Adjusted for inflation, a 2015 Grange from $86,990 would equate to about $115,300 today, which nestles in neatly between the ‘base’ G80 2.5T rear-driver from $104,200 and 3.5T AWD SL.

And, like the big Holdens and Fords of yesteryear, the Genesis annihilates the German luxury sedan triumvirate for value for money as well as bang for your buck, when you consider what the competition is at its price point: Audi A6 45 TFSI quattro S Line from $122,415, BMW 520i from $114,900 and Mercedes-Benz E200 from $117,900.

Nowadays, even the entry-level Euro grades are pretty well specified, but all have 2.0-litre, four-cylinder, turbo-petrol engines of between 150kW and 180kW outputs and two-wheel drive, against the Genesis’ 279kW 3.5-litre V6 twin-turbo and AWD.

And then there’s the SL equipment levels, that includes everything you’d expect from a machine that is built like a Lexus, behaves like a BMW and wants to be as bourgeois as an S-Class Benz, with powered, electric and wireless everything.

It’s easier to list what’s missing: namely, walk-away door locking.

Still, listing some of the standout features is editorially required, so the SL’s lucky occupants can indulge in a heated front console armrest complete with UV-C sanitisation, a real-time concierge service with a five-year subscription included, a fingerprint recognition system for extra security (freeing society from a key!), a powered rear-window shade and the quietness that active noise-cancellation brings. And all are new with the MY25 facelift.

More opulence comes in the form of Nappa quilted leather upholstery, surround-view monitors, 18-way powered/heated/vented/memory front seats with massaging and ottoman extenders, powered reclining/vented/heated rear outboard seats with (manual) sun-blinds, tri-zone climate functionality with rear-seat controls, front and rear wireless smartphone chargers, 18-speaker Bang & Olufsen audio (with epic sound), soft-close doors, suede headlining, a panoramic sunroof with powered blind, solar-controlled glass, a powered boot lid with valet mode and remote-control parking.

We are pretty sure you won’t find this combination of gear in your entry-level German sedans at the 3.5T’s price point.

Genesis has also crammed in as much active and passive safety as possible. More on that in detail later on.

Note that there is also an all-electric G80 Signature Electrified AWD version from $155,000, making it the series’ true flagship.

Successive federal governments in Australia with their Luxury Car Tax have made this sort of vehicle a questionable value proposition as it balloons their prices, but within the context of what else is available, the G80 makes for a brave and bold alternative to formidable yet predictable alternatives.

Under that long bonnet is a 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8 pumping out 420kW and a diesel-like 800Nm of torque. 

That's a lot, even for this big bruiser. Obviously, being an Audi S-car, it has quattro all-wheel drive, which is fed by an eight-speed ZF automatic. Which is in everything now. Well, just about.

That huge torque figure is available between 2000rpm and 4500rpm while peak power arrives at 6000rpm. The 0-100km/h sprint is despatched in - gulp - 3.8 seconds.

As it's riding on the MLB platform, the mild hybrid system is a 48-volt set-up. A lithium-ion battery in the boot takes charge from the belt alternator/starter, which means the S8 can coast at higher speeds with the engine off and also cut out at 22km/h and under in traffic.

The system can also add up to 60Nm of torque in the right conditions for up to six seconds, and if it happened for me, I didn't notice it.

As the alphanumerics suggest, the G80 3.5T AWD is powered by a 3.5-litre twin-turbo V6 petrol engine, producing a hefty 279kW of power at 5800rpm and 530Nm of torque between 1300-4500rpm.

Tipping the scales at 2095kg (kerb), the SL’s power-to-weight ratio is 133kW/tonne.

Drive is sent to all four wheels via an eight-speed torque-converter automatic transmission. 'Normal', 'Sport' and 'Eco' modes are fitted.

The 10.5L/100km official figure is, shall we say, optimistic. The launch drive was mostly highway so there's no real information to be gleaned from that, so we'll have to wait for real world fuel figures.

I'd say 12-13L/100km is achievable if you don't like having fun, in which case, the lesser A8 is probably for you.

Audi says the MHEV system saves 0.8L/100km with an early cut-out for the stop-start and the ability to coast on the highway for over half a minute at a time.

Here is where the G80 has all four wheels rooted more in the past than in the future.

With no electrification of any variety (hybrid, in other words), high fuel consumption is always going to be the real price paid by going for a Euro-5 spec twin-turbo V6 weighing some 2100kg.

The official combined average figure is 11 litres per 100km, for a corresponding carbon-dioxide emissions rating of 250 grams/km. On the highway that drops to 7.9L/100km and soars to 16.3L/100km in the city cycle.

With a 73L fuel tank, that combined average number means a driver can expect around 660km of range between refills of 95 RON premium petrol, though Genesis says this G80 will also run on E10 ethanol blend.

Now, our trip computer said that we averaged less than the official figure, at just 9.7L/100km, but our pump-to-pump testing ended up being 11.4L/100km. Which isn’t that bad.

Driving any of the cars in this segment is a rare treat, whether it's the 'entry level' diesel or this top of the heap sports sedan. My day with the S8 was filled with the usual surprise and delight that only these tech-packed cars can deliver.

Heading out of the Sydney CBD in 'Comfort' mode, the car scans the road ahead and adjusts the active suspension accordingly. You already know it has active suspension because when you pull the door handle, the car lifts by 50mm to make it a bit easier to get in.

The suspension's party trick is flat-topped speed bumps - drive at one, brake a little and sense the way the body feels like it stays exactly where it is in the air but the suspension almost completely flattens the speed hump.

It's uncanny and almost unnatural, with just the tiniest change in altitude and no noise from the suspension.

It also manages the terrible narrow lanes of CBD thoroughfares with ease, the lane keep system letting you know if you're straying.

On to the motorway and you get a feel for its crushing performance. You won't hear much, though - the stereo's noise-cancelling system shuts out almost all tyre noise and consistent wind noise is largely banished, too.

I'm going to admit I gasped when I found some corners. Active suspension bodes well for the tricky stuff, as does the all-wheel steering. Both are exceptionally clever systems for making the car feel a lot smaller in town and in car parks but they're also really good if you want some fun.

But the way the rear-wheel steer adds agility to such a big car is hilarious and clever. While you can't quite chuck it around - and really, you're not buying an A8-sized car for that kind of nonsense - brisk progress is far from intimidating.

Now, obviously, a Ford Fiesta would drive away from the S8 in the really tight stuff but it would take some time to properly shake it. The colossal torque from the V8 hurls even this two-tonne-plus limo out of the corners in a most satisfactory manner.

It's surprisingly agile for a machine more than five metres long and two metres wide. If your passengers are corner enthusiasts, you'll all be having fun in near silence. It's oddly engaging to be moving at pace in such a hushed cabin.

The Genesis G80 3.5T AWD SL drives in a similar way to the big brutish American-inspired Caprice and HSV Grange V8s, in that it delivers effortless, lazy performance with a sophisticated twist.

No slouch off the line even in Eco mode, the twin-turbo V6 leaps into action if you’re heavy on the throttle in Comfort mode, hunkering down as the speed piles on quickly.

With 'Launch Control', the claimed 0-100km/h sprint time is 4.9 seconds, though in regular mode it is rated at 5.1s on the way to a top speed of 250km/h.

And while the enhanced exhaust orchestrates a nice warble from behind, it remains a strong, smooth and silent performer.

The AWD system is RWD-biased and is continuously variable according to prevailing conditions, performance and grip.

The SL also features an electronic limited-slip differential for better traction and grip, as well as rear-wheel steering that either counter-steers the rear wheels in relation to the front ones for a tighter turning circle (11.8m) or parallel steers them for “enhanced steering responsiveness and stability at high speed.”

Selecting 'Sport' or 'Sport+' is met with distinctly more-urgent responses, with the transmission holding on to ratios as the revs approach the red line, which can be annoying around town.

It’s quite surprising – and probably a good thing – that the beautifully balanced and connected steering can be light and easy when you’re relaxed, and yet hefty to the point of feeling heavy when you’re really on it. Likewise, the brakes in 'Comfort' are pleasantly progressive. In 'Brake Sport' they’re fiercely responsive.

Note that, in Sport+ with the safeties off, the SL's tail can become very playful indeed, even in bone-dry conditions.

Suspension is via multi-links at both ends of the car, whilst the SL grade includes what Genesis calls “Road Preview Electronic Control Suspension (ECS)”, that scans the road ahead and then adjusts the adaptive dampers for better ride comfort.

That all said, the Genesis’ sheer size and weight keep it from feeling like an out-and-out sports sedan. The speed and AWD grip is there - tyres are Michelin Pilot Sport 4S (245/40 fr - 275/35 rr) - and the handling results in some pretty astounding agility for one so large, but the steering connection, balance and alacrity are more about confidence and competence than light-footed athleticism.

This is no cut-price BMW M5. But HSV Grange owners might recognise something in its muscular good manners.

And what of the SL’s four-wheel steering? It provides a degree of tuck-in at speed which can catch out the unaware driver, though of course, it is also a boon for round-town manoeuvrability. The tight turning circle that ensues is incredible for one so long.

Ultimately, though, it is a large and heavy sedan that never quite stops feeling that way. It won’t shrink around you despite being an easy and rewarding car to drive.

Out in the wet, the AWD contributes to the G80’s squatted-down attitude, feeling impervious to prevailing external conditions.

But it’s also not quite the sumptuous luxury liner that, say, a Mercedes S450 is.

Very civilised on smooth roads, with a decent level of absorption from the multi-link suspension, the G80 struggles a little with smaller-frequency bumps at times, but then does a great job smothering the larger ones. It is certainly within the luxury sedan expectations for refinement, isolation and ride comfort, but just not the best.

If you stick with freeways and highways, this thing will bring years of civilised pleasure and punchy performance. It is a rapid yet relaxed grand touring family cruiser.

The Genesis G80 scored a maximum five-star ANCAP assessment all the way back in December 2020, though this figure does not cover the 3.5T model as tested by us.

Along with 10 airbags (including front-centre and driver’s knee protection), it is fitted with a wide variety of advanced driver assist systems (ADAS).

These include 'Autonomous Emergency Braking' (AEB) with forward-collision avoidance (taking in car/pedestrian/cyclist as well as junction turning/crossing detection), lane-keep assist, lane-change and evasive steering assist, rear cross-traffic alert, blind-spot warning/collision avoidance, traffic-sign recognition, adaptive cruise control, parking collision avoidance, safe-exit alert, surround-view monitors, driver-attention warning, traffic-sign recognition and auto high beams.

There are also two ISOFIX child-seat fixtures and a trio of child-seat anchorage points in the back seat.

Audi continues to fail to match Mercedes move to a five year warranty, sticking with three year/unlimited kilometre cover. BMW is still doing it too, so maybe Ingolstadt and Munich are playing chicken. 

You can get a five-year service plan for the S8, coming out at $3990 for the duration.

The Genesis G80 comes with a five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty, five years of what it calls 'premium' roadside assistance (increased to 10 years if serviced at a Genesis dealer) and five years/75,000km of free servicing. Service intervals are every 12 months or 15,000km.

While these are about on-par with most brands, it is behind better mainstream warranty and aftersales services, which are seven, and in a few cases, 10 years in length.