What's the difference?
Things that have had a name change AFTER they’ve become famous…
Okay… there’s Kanye West’s switch to Ye, Twitter’s rebranding to X and now this – the Audi Q8 e-tron.
As the brand’s first production EV, it used to be known simply as Audi e-tron. But that was confusing, because – Porsche Taycan-based GT and RS sports sedans aside – every electrified vehicle that the company has made before and since wears e-tron as a suffix.
Beyond new badging, the Q8 e-tron also brings a facelift and improvements underneath, to better challenge the BMW iX, Jaguar I-Pace and Mercedes EQC and EQE large electric SUVs, among others.
How does the Ingolstadt EV fare? Let’s find out.
I'm going to reveal something of myself here - I used to be a RenaultSport Clio owner. This is what the purists call what we now know as Clio RS, and I find myself constantly corrected yet unrepentant. It was a 172 - a nuggety three-door with wheels that looked too small, a weird seating position and a 2.0-litre naturally aspirated engine that was big on torque as long as you belted it.
It was a classic and you could still see the links back to the epoch-making Renault Clio Williams, that blue and gold Mk 1 Clio we never saw in Australia that redefined the genre. The current Clio has been around for four years now and I even drove this current RS Clio at its launch in 2013, memorable for the sudden bucketing rain that drenched the circuit and made things very interesting indeed.
This Clio was a big change from the cars that went before - slimmer-hipped, less aggressive-looking and with a 1.6-litre turbo engine, five-door-only body and (gasp!) no manual, just Renault's twin-clutch EDC transmission. It was a hit, at least with enthusiasts. Back then it was the dawn of a golden age in small hot hatches. But that was then, this is now. With a small power bump and a couple of features thrown in, is the ageing RS still at the pointy end?
The Audi Q8 e-tron ushers in welcome improvements to an already likeable and capable large luxury SUV.
But it is also feeling dated compared to newer and fresher rivals like the BMW iX, isn’t as good to drive as the best, offers disappointing range for the size of the new battery, and prices are creeping up for what is essentially a half-decade-old EV.
The name change isn’t enough. What the Q8 e-tron really needs is a massive leap in its Vorsprung durch Technik in a rapidly evolving electrified landscape.
Very good… but far from great.
The Clio RS is still a ton of fun and in Cup spec, probably the best compromise between price and livability. Despite its advancing years (it turns five this year, so ready to start kindy) and big brother Megane hogging the limelight with a fancy new model on the way, the Clio is a stayer. It's missing some frustratingly obvious things like CarPlay, AEB, rear airbags and rear cross-traffic alert, but it's hardly alone in the segment.
With the departure of the Fiesta ST, though, the Clio returns to the top of the list of best small hot hatches on sale today.
The Q8 e-tron looks smaller than it actually is, with the SUV wagon’s length/width/height/wheelbase numbers measuring in at 4915/1937/1633mm/2928mm, respectively.
The Sportback version is slightly lower at 1619mm.
You’ll need a keen eye to spot the difference between the old e-tron and new Q8 e-tron, with almost all of the visual changes reserved for the front end.
For starters, there’s a new, two-dimensional four-ring logo that looks larger and flatter than before, sitting within a sleeker and slimmer grille treatment that now takes in the restyled headlights. Along with the redesigned bumper, the effect serves to broaden the SUV’s stance.
The effect also suggests improved aerodynamics, aided by small air foils near the wheel arches and a fully-clad underbody section.
Otherwise, aside from the odd inclusion of the make-model name on the B-pillar and minor trim updates out back, the Q8 e-tron keeps the same, contemporary appearance of its predecessor. Which is no bad thing.
And there are even fewer changes inside.
The Clio is a handsome small car but nothing out of the ordinary until you apply the very cool Liquid Yellow paint. That hue really is quite something and works even better with the black alloys of the Cup chassis.
The car has some lovely surfacing and in a recent-ish refresh, the slightly odd headlights were reworked, as were the front and rear bumpers which now link to the RenaultSport Megane. Sorry, Megane RS. The RS flag signature lighting is a nice touch, acting as DRLs at the bottom corners of the front bumper.
The lovely organic shapes of the Clio's sides still look good and the rather tough rear end with the chunky diffuser leaves you in no doubt that it's the proper RS not the halfway-house, 1.2-litre GT-Line.
Inside is starting to look its age, but graceful, a bit like Jamie-Lee Curtis' or George Clooney's embrace of grey hair. There are still some of the sharp edges I didn't like. It's certainly a Renault to look at and ergonomically works pretty well. One thing that has been fixed at some point is the switch on the gear selector - it won't bite you if you curl your finger underneath when you press it. You might think that's a small thing, but when you did it, damn it hurt.
More than merely good enough.
Entry and egress are easy thanks to a lofty ride height and wide-opening doors. Once sat, you’ll discover Audi has not changed anything much inside compared to the old e-tron. Frankly, very little needed to.
You’ll still find a strikingly stylish and upmarket cabin offering sufficient space for five people, a commanding driving position, superbly supportive front seats that are a boon when long-distance driving, plenty of storage options, ample ventilation and suitably moody lighting.
While not the most modern dash on the market when contrasted to the vast ‘hyper’ screens of some rivals, the Q8 e-tron’s remains very architectural in appearance and presentation.
Trim and material quality are certainly up to brand expectations. Practicality remains a priority, with lots of storage areas within the dash, console and door cards.
There are no fewer than three screens – a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster Audi calls 'Virtual Cockpit', a 10.1-inch central multimedia display with haptic feedback and an 8.6-inch unit for climate control.
While they may seem daunting at first, a little familiarisation means most users will find them easy to operate.
Kudos, too, to the super-clear markings in the instrumentation, as well as the very satisfying tactile sensations of using the quality switchgear and controls. Typical Audi thoroughness here.
The same applies to the Q8 e-tron’s roomy and pleasantly-presented back seat area, with intelligently designed seating offering a nicely angled backrest as well as supportive cushion.
Three people can fit across without too much pain, though two is better, as the folding centre armrest and other amenities like air vents and climate control systems can be better-accessed and enjoyed.
You can see, smell and feel where your money’s gone inside. This is a quiet, isolated and cocooning experience, whether cruising on the motorway or stuck in heavy urban traffic. As you’d expect from a luxury SUV.
About the only real jarring aspect are the $3500 virtual exterior mirrors, created to improve aero performance. Their door-mounted screens are set low, outside the natural visual eyeline of the driver, creating confusion and adding precious extra seconds of eyes not on the road ahead. They’re irritating to the point of frustration.
Otherwise, the Q8 e-tron gets the job done inside, with cargo capacity at a reasonable 569 litres in the SUV wagon and 528L in the Sportback. And there’s even a 62L tub in the frunk up front to store the cables that also come standard with the EV.
Audi interior and packaging expertise strikes again.
The Clio's interior is certainly snug. Rear seat passengers do okay for legroom but headroom is a mite marginal with the falling roofline for six footers. There are no cupholders out back, that curious French habit of supplying just a couple of cup receptacles of different and weird sizes persists. The front doors have space for bottles, the rears do not.
The boot is class-competitive at 300 litres (worth knowing the Trophy loses 70 litres to the Cup) and with the seats down stretches to a claimed 1146L.
First thing’s first. The Q8 e-tron has very little in common with the existing Q8 petrol, diesel and SQ8 high-performance models.
These, along with the larger Q7, have internal combustion engines.
However, keep in mind all leverage variations of the same 'MLB Evo' architecture that first saw the light of day all the way back in 2015. So, no spring chickens here.
But as it currently also serves Bentley, Lamborghini and Porsche SUVs, we’re talking about a classy set of components, anyway. Plus, the pre-facelift model was only rolled out on the world market in 2019.
For now, only a single variant is here, known as the Q8 e-tron 55, meaning the previous, smaller-battery 50 and flagship SQ8 aren’t here yet. That will happen sometime during 2024.
As before, there’s the choice of a traditional SUV wagon or more-popular BMW X6-style Sportback SUV coupe.
Prices start at $153,900 (all prices are before on-road costs) for the former and $165,900 for the latter, and that’s a jump of nearly $8K and $9K respectively over their old e-tron-as-a-noun-rather-than-an-adjective predecessors.
At least the Q8 e-tron is well equipped.
On the safety front, you’ll find about 40 driver assistance systems, backed up by a plethora of cameras, radar sensors and ultrasonic sensors to help keep the SUV as secure as possible.
These include a 360-degree camera system, adaptive cruise control, lane-support systems, rear cross-traffic assist and Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB).
More on safety further down below.
All models also include adaptive air suspension with a variable ride height range of 76mm, a drive-mode selector that switches between normal and sport settings, LED headlights with auto high beams, keyless entry/start, front and rear climate control, heated and powered front seats and adjustable regenerative braking paddles on the steering wheel.
There's also a head-up display, three digital screens including electronic instrumentation and a central touchscreen with haptic feedback, satellite navigation, Android Auto, wireless Apple CarPlay, digital radio, wireless smartphone charging, four USB-C ports, an electric tailgate with gesture control, roof rails and 20-inch alloy wheels – with a space-saver spare wheel to boot.
Plus, an undisclosed number of Launch Edition SUVs from $165,900 are also available, adding Audi’s S line exterior styling touches, 21-inch wheels, sports front seats, a racier steering wheel, electric steering column adjustment and more.
Note that the base Q8 e-tron 55 does not include leather upholstery (it’s synthetic material instead) or a sunroof as standard.
Pricing and spec, then, are generally in-line with the luxury Euro EV SUV competition, which is to say, a bit on the exxy side.
Let’s check out the changes.
The iconic 'Liquid Yellow' ($750 option) Clio I had for the week was the Cup spec chassis. The Clio RS 200, as it is officially known, comes in two specs - Sport and Cup - and there's a Trophy 220 at the top of the range. I had the Cup, which retails at $32,490 (plus on-road costs). The RS220 Trophy, with a bit more poke and stuff, weighs in at $38,990 if you're interested.
The Cup spec is heavily based on the more affordable ($30,990) Sport, which means you get 18-inch alloy wheels (painted black, so watch those kerbs), climate control, four speaker stereo, keyless entry and start (the "key" is still that unwieldy keycard style thing), reversing camera, cruise control, front and rear parking sensors, fog lamps, LED daytime running lights, sat nav, auto LED headlights, auto wipers, launch control, leather bits and pieces and a tyre inflation kit instead of any kind of spare.
The 7.0-inch 'R-Link' touch screen software runs the four speaker stereo with DAB digital radio, Bluetooth and USB. If you get the optional RS Monitor, there is a full-on telemetry system from which you can save your, er, "track day" data and overlay in Google Maps to compare with your mates' or past efforts. You can also change the piped-in engine sound to various different sound effects which are delightfully silly.
Android Auto is part of the breathtaking $1500 'Entertainment Pack' option that includes RS Monitor (which used to be standard) and no, there's no Apple CarPlay. Leather is a further $1500.
Bottom line is that you do get a decent spec bump from the $30,990 Sport along with the more capable (and less comfortable) Cup chassis.
Tech-overload alert. As per its predecessor, the Q8 e-tron 55 continues with two electric motors – one on each axle – for ‘quattro’ all-wheel drive.
Upgraded internals are said to improve efficiency substantially. Both are induction/asynchronous motors, mated to a single-gear two-stage ratio planetary transmission.
In the 55 model, the dual-motor set-up delivers a combined 300kW of power and 664Nm of torque, for a healthy 0-100km/h sprint-time of 5.6 seconds, on the way to a 200km/h top speed.
That’s impressive, given the lightest Q8 e-tron 55 tips the scales from 2595kg. That said, the Audi’s power-to-weight ratio is an equally strong 116kg/tonne.
Other updates include more direct steering, stiffer front suspension and retuned chassis controls.
Suspension is a five-link arrangement all-around, with adaptive air suspension featuring an electronically controlled with continuously variable adaptive damping system.
The 200-equipped RSes pony up 147kW/260Nm, which is pretty much bang-on the obvious competition (Peugeot 208 GTI and the outgoing Fiesta ST), driving the front wheels through Renault's six-speed EDC twin-clutch. Unlike those two, there is no overboost function.
Dieppe's finest sprints from 0-100km/h in a claimed 6.7 seconds, pulling along a kerb weight of 1204kg.
The good news is that the lithium-ion battery pack size rises from 95kWh to 114kWh, and is accompanied by faster DC charging capability, due to a jump from 150kW to 170kW.
While far from the class best, this cuts down charging times by a considerable margin.
The claimed driving range is 454km, while average consumption is a disappointing 25.6kWh/100km. The Q8 e-tron’s trip computer during our run in it recorded a mid-to-high 20s readout, by the way.
Renault claims 5.9L/100km on the combined cycle but, yeah, nah. My week was admittedly filled with plenty of horseplay and spirited driving, yielding 11.4L/100km. If you were careful you may fare better - but not that much better.
The fuel tank is a fairly standard 45 litres. It requires 98RON premium unleaded.
For decades, Audi used the advertising tagline ‘Vorsprung durch Technik’ – which means Progress through Technology in its native German – to highlight how advanced its vehicles are.
So, how has the Q8 e-tron advanced over its predecessor?
Right from the get-go, there’s so much to dig about the electric Audi SUV, especially if you’re new to luxury EVs.
To start with, it’s as quiet as you’d expect, even by luxury brand standards. As the Audi accelerates, the sense of momentum is somewhat masked by how refined and civilised your progress is.
Watch that, though. You could get a speeding fine more easily than you expect!
Anyway, with 664Nm of torque coming on instantly, there’s certainly no shortage of it, backed up by enough muscle for effortless and instantaneous overtaking. This sort of motoring can become highly addictive.
Similarly, a low centre of gravity, combined with a beautifully modulated electric power steering and the quattro AWD set-up, provides pleasing agility combined with reassuring roadholding. Even when you’re pressing on, the Q8 e-tron corners and grip with confidence and control.
So far, so good. Especially considering the air suspension is further cushioning your sense of speed, with excellent bump absorption for an isolated ride.
That’s on the standard 20-inch alloys spec. Riding on the larger wheels, there is a bit more firmness, as well as some road-noise intrusion.
Plus, it doesn’t take long to realise the Q8 e-tron is a very heavy vehicle. Though undeniably quick and athletic, changing directions in a hurry means that the SUV can feel a bit unwieldy.
Throttle response at higher velocities can seem a little muted and, over certain crests and humps when travelling fast, there is a sense that the driver really needs to have their wits about them.
Best to take it a bit easier, then, and enjoy the serenity the Audi EV SUV delivers in more typical and restrained travelling scenarios.
There is so much that the Q8 e-tron brings, and driving it normally really does reveal a sophisticated, comfortable, dependable and high-quality grand-touring experience.
Push a bit harder, though, and some cracks show up.
The RS has always had a belter of a chassis. The Cup chassis became a thing just over a decade ago and is lauded by the fans as The One To Have. I've not always been convinced of this as my earlier drives of the Cup-equipped machines have usually been in close proximity to the Sport chassis.
The Cup is slightly lower than the Sport, with 15 per cent stiffer springs and dampers and perhaps more importantly it scores 18-inch wheels with Dunlop Sport Maxx RT2 tyres, which you can reasonably expect to be a bit firmer than the 17s with Goodyear F1s on the Sport. And they are.
However, in most situations, the Cup chassis is perfectly benign. You certainly feel the bumps and lumps, but you haven't bought a Cup chassis for Lexus-like isolation. It's certainly sharper than the Sport chassis and when you're really giving it a go around the bends, the comfort deficit is more than made up for by the extra grip and poise.
The RS has always had a belter of a chassis.
The chassis is aided and abetted by a torquey 1.6-turbo that cheerfully...no, gleefully spins to the redline which could do with another thousand revs, but that's forced induction for you. The aluminium shift paddles need a good positive pull to get a gear, but that gear is delivered quickly and effortlessly. The Clio is a great deal of fun in Sport and Race modes, with throttle mappings and gearshifts becoming more aggressive as you switch through the modes.
The brakes are tremendously effective and the electronic limited slip diff (*cough* brake-based torque vectoring) ensures you'll hit your apexes and the tyres spend more time gripping than spinning.
But it's not all hairpins and off-camber left-right-lefts, is it? Plenty of owners have to live with the car in traffic day to day. Driving the Cup in isolation, I've changed my mind about it. I reckon it's the best of the two chassis settings. The city ride is better than decent, with the hard edges potholes chamfered off by the dampers and decent compliance. It's not too noisy, either.
Tested way back in 2019 but updated in September, 2023, the e-tron/Q8 e-tron range scored a maximum five-star ANCAP crash-test rating.
There is no shortage of safety equipment – with passive and active, driver-assist-heavy technologies designed to avoid an accident, with full surround-view cameras also providing an extra level of security.
Standard kit includes Audi’s 'Pre-Sense front' and 'Pre-Sense rear', offering AEB, cross-traffic alert and active lane-keep assistance tech, as well as adaptive cruise control with full stop/go, eight airbags (dual front as well as side and curtain airbags for all outboard occupants), hill-descent control, anti-lock brakes, electronic brake-force distribution, brake-assist, electronic stability control, traction control and tyre pressure monitors.
The AEB system can detect pedestrians and cyclists between 10km/h and 85km/h, and even at night, while for other motor vehicles that increases to 250km/h (an upper velocity more relevant for the coming SQ8 e-tron). The active lane warning operations is from 65-250km/h.
Both outboard rear seats feature ISOFIX child-seat latches, along with three top tethers for straps.
On board the Clio is four airbags (no curtain coverage for those in the rear), ABS, stability and traction controls, a reversing camera and two ISOFIX points along with three top-tether anchors.
The Clio was awarded a five-star ANCAP rating in November 2013.
Audi provides a five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty as well as six-years’ worth of free roadside assistance, which is nothing unusual these days, while the battery warranty is eight years or 160,000km.
The first six years of scheduled servicing is free, too. Intervals are every two years/30,000km (whichever comes first).
Plus, owners also receive six years of complimentary access to Chargefox’s network.
Renault says it was the first European maker to offer a five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty in Australia, and who are we to argue? The package also includes up to four years of roadside assist and three years of capped-price servicing.
Renault expects to see you just once a year or every 20,000km, which gives you a bit more headroom than some similar service plans, at least on the mileage. The first three services will cost no more than $369 unless you need a new air filter ($38) or pollen filter ($46). At 60,000km or four years you'll cop $262 for a set of spark plugs. The company's website also suggests if the Clio doesn't like the state of its oil, it will beep at you until you have that attended to.