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Things that have had a name change AFTER they’ve become famous…
Okay… there’s Kanye West’s switch to Ye, Twitter’s rebranding to X and now this – the Audi Q8 e-tron.
As the brand’s first production EV, it used to be known simply as Audi e-tron. But that was confusing, because – Porsche Taycan-based GT and RS sports sedans aside – every electrified vehicle that the company has made before and since wears e-tron as a suffix.
Beyond new badging, the Q8 e-tron also brings a facelift and improvements underneath, to better challenge the BMW iX, Jaguar I-Pace and Mercedes EQC and EQE large electric SUVs, among others.
How does the Ingolstadt EV fare? Let’s find out.
Freedom of choice has been the focus for the luxury car industry for more than a decade. Buyers were free to choose from a seemingly endless amount of variations and bodystyles to suit their taste and lifestyle.
It gave birth to the ‘four-door coupe’ then the ‘SUV coupe’ and so many more. But now it seems car makers have reached their limit, as evidenced by Mercedes-Benz’s newest offering - the CLE Coupe and Cabriolet.
While technically a new addition to the range, the CLE actually replaces not one existing model, but two. The CLE will fill the gap left by both the C-Class Coupe and E-Class Coupe, allowing the German brand to simplify its line-up (ever so slightly).
So, what is the CLE Coupe and how will it live up to expectations of two different car buyers? Read on to find out…
The Audi Q8 e-tron ushers in welcome improvements to an already likeable and capable large luxury SUV.
But it is also feeling dated compared to newer and fresher rivals like the BMW iX, isn’t as good to drive as the best, offers disappointing range for the size of the new battery, and prices are creeping up for what is essentially a half-decade-old EV.
The name change isn’t enough. What the Q8 e-tron really needs is a massive leap in its Vorsprung durch Technik in a rapidly evolving electrified landscape.
Very good… but far from great.
The CLE Coupe really feels like a car of the times. As the electric vehicle market continues to suck in resources, the days of endless variants and body styles is going to wane. But the truth is the CLE does a nice job of filling the demands that both previous C-Class Coupe and E-Class Coupe buyers are looking for.
It’s a stylish model with plenty of technology on the inside, so it should appeal to those who want something refined and elegant for their lifestyle. It has a hint of sportiness on road, without being overtly dynamic or uncomfortable; although Mercedes-AMG will cater to those buyers soon enough. And it offers the kind of space inside that buyers of both models will find acceptable (as long as they don’t have to climb into the back regularly).
The biggest challenge will be convincing C-Class customers to take the big jump up in price over the model it replaces, while at the same time convincing E-Class buyers that this is still something special and different given its similarities to the old model.
Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with travel, accommodation and meals provided.
The Q8 e-tron looks smaller than it actually is, with the SUV wagon’s length/width/height/wheelbase numbers measuring in at 4915/1937/1633mm/2928mm, respectively.
The Sportback version is slightly lower at 1619mm.
You’ll need a keen eye to spot the difference between the old e-tron and new Q8 e-tron, with almost all of the visual changes reserved for the front end.
For starters, there’s a new, two-dimensional four-ring logo that looks larger and flatter than before, sitting within a sleeker and slimmer grille treatment that now takes in the restyled headlights. Along with the redesigned bumper, the effect serves to broaden the SUV’s stance.
The effect also suggests improved aerodynamics, aided by small air foils near the wheel arches and a fully-clad underbody section.
Otherwise, aside from the odd inclusion of the make-model name on the B-pillar and minor trim updates out back, the Q8 e-tron keeps the same, contemporary appearance of its predecessor. Which is no bad thing.
And there are even fewer changes inside.
Thankfully for the German brand its family look across its range means the CLE seamlessly integrates into both the C-Class and E-Class line-ups.
Mercedes does use some colourful language to describe the looks, with terms like 'sharknose' for the front end, and these ‘powerdomes’ on the bonnet, and there’s a swooping design that wraps around the tail to create a dynamic-looking vehicle.
The biggest question about design, though, is the size of the CLE, specifically how it compares to the two coupes it replaces. While based on the same basic underpinnings as the C-Class sedan, Mercedes has stretched and pulled the body to try and fill the space between it and the old E-Class Coupe.
The result is a car that is 164mm longer than the C-Class Coupe and +15mm longer than the E-Class overall, with the wheelbase stretched 25mm over the C-Class but actually 8mm shorter than the old E-Class two-door. It’s also 50mm wider than the previous C-Class but exactly the same width as the E-Class. So it’s definitely on the bigger size without actually matching up with either model it supersedes.
More than merely good enough.
Entry and egress are easy thanks to a lofty ride height and wide-opening doors. Once sat, you’ll discover Audi has not changed anything much inside compared to the old e-tron. Frankly, very little needed to.
You’ll still find a strikingly stylish and upmarket cabin offering sufficient space for five people, a commanding driving position, superbly supportive front seats that are a boon when long-distance driving, plenty of storage options, ample ventilation and suitably moody lighting.
While not the most modern dash on the market when contrasted to the vast ‘hyper’ screens of some rivals, the Q8 e-tron’s remains very architectural in appearance and presentation.
Trim and material quality are certainly up to brand expectations. Practicality remains a priority, with lots of storage areas within the dash, console and door cards.
There are no fewer than three screens – a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster Audi calls 'Virtual Cockpit', a 10.1-inch central multimedia display with haptic feedback and an 8.6-inch unit for climate control.
While they may seem daunting at first, a little familiarisation means most users will find them easy to operate.
Kudos, too, to the super-clear markings in the instrumentation, as well as the very satisfying tactile sensations of using the quality switchgear and controls. Typical Audi thoroughness here.
The same applies to the Q8 e-tron’s roomy and pleasantly-presented back seat area, with intelligently designed seating offering a nicely angled backrest as well as supportive cushion.
Three people can fit across without too much pain, though two is better, as the folding centre armrest and other amenities like air vents and climate control systems can be better-accessed and enjoyed.
You can see, smell and feel where your money’s gone inside. This is a quiet, isolated and cocooning experience, whether cruising on the motorway or stuck in heavy urban traffic. As you’d expect from a luxury SUV.
About the only real jarring aspect are the $3500 virtual exterior mirrors, created to improve aero performance. Their door-mounted screens are set low, outside the natural visual eyeline of the driver, creating confusion and adding precious extra seconds of eyes not on the road ahead. They’re irritating to the point of frustration.
Otherwise, the Q8 e-tron gets the job done inside, with cargo capacity at a reasonable 569 litres in the SUV wagon and 528L in the Sportback. And there’s even a 62L tub in the frunk up front to store the cables that also come standard with the EV.
Audi interior and packaging expertise strikes again.
Not surprisingly given the exterior growth over the old C-Class Coupe, Mercedes is talking up the increased interior room and practicality. Which is crucial to the success of the CLE because in replacing both the smaller C-Class and larger E-Class coupes, it now needs to appeal to both audiences.
Front seat room is generous, with plenty of shoulder room and the seats offer good comfort and support. In the back Mercedes’ designers have managed to create 95mm more legroom than the old C-Class Coupe, but fractionally less than the E-Class Coupe (just 1mm less). The rear seats are wider than both outgoing models, both across the shoulders and the mid-section. Headroom has been increased by 10mm over the C-Class but decreased by the same amount compared to the E-Class.
Putting the measuring tape aside, while the rear seats are fine for short trips, the back of the CLE is clearly not the place to be and if you plan on using the rear seats regularly then you should be looking at one of the brand’s sedans.
As for the boot, at 420 litres it’s 60 litres bigger than the old C-Class but five litres smaller when compared to the E-Class Coupe; so once again there’s a trade-off between the two.
First thing’s first. The Q8 e-tron has very little in common with the existing Q8 petrol, diesel and SQ8 high-performance models.
These, along with the larger Q7, have internal combustion engines.
However, keep in mind all leverage variations of the same 'MLB Evo' architecture that first saw the light of day all the way back in 2015. So, no spring chickens here.
But as it currently also serves Bentley, Lamborghini and Porsche SUVs, we’re talking about a classy set of components, anyway. Plus, the pre-facelift model was only rolled out on the world market in 2019.
For now, only a single variant is here, known as the Q8 e-tron 55, meaning the previous, smaller-battery 50 and flagship SQ8 aren’t here yet. That will happen sometime during 2024.
As before, there’s the choice of a traditional SUV wagon or more-popular BMW X6-style Sportback SUV coupe.
Prices start at $153,900 (all prices are before on-road costs) for the former and $165,900 for the latter, and that’s a jump of nearly $8K and $9K respectively over their old e-tron-as-a-noun-rather-than-an-adjective predecessors.
At least the Q8 e-tron is well equipped.
On the safety front, you’ll find about 40 driver assistance systems, backed up by a plethora of cameras, radar sensors and ultrasonic sensors to help keep the SUV as secure as possible.
These include a 360-degree camera system, adaptive cruise control, lane-support systems, rear cross-traffic assist and Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB).
More on safety further down below.
All models also include adaptive air suspension with a variable ride height range of 76mm, a drive-mode selector that switches between normal and sport settings, LED headlights with auto high beams, keyless entry/start, front and rear climate control, heated and powered front seats and adjustable regenerative braking paddles on the steering wheel.
There's also a head-up display, three digital screens including electronic instrumentation and a central touchscreen with haptic feedback, satellite navigation, Android Auto, wireless Apple CarPlay, digital radio, wireless smartphone charging, four USB-C ports, an electric tailgate with gesture control, roof rails and 20-inch alloy wheels – with a space-saver spare wheel to boot.
Plus, an undisclosed number of Launch Edition SUVs from $165,900 are also available, adding Audi’s S line exterior styling touches, 21-inch wheels, sports front seats, a racier steering wheel, electric steering column adjustment and more.
Note that the base Q8 e-tron 55 does not include leather upholstery (it’s synthetic material instead) or a sunroof as standard.
Pricing and spec, then, are generally in-line with the luxury Euro EV SUV competition, which is to say, a bit on the exxy side.
Let’s check out the changes.
The initial range consists of just two models - the CLE200 and CLE300 4Matic, but an AMG variant, the CLE53 is due to follow soon (as is the expected-but-not-confirmed V8-powered CLE63), but not before the Cabriolet arrives. While the CLE300 Cabriolet was on hand for us to look at, we weren’t allowed to drive, so we’ll focus this review on the hard-top models.
The CLE200 is priced from $103,900 and the CLE300 is $124,900 (neither price includes on-road costs). While it’s hard to do a like-for-like comparison between the old models and this new one, the CLE is more than $20k more expensive than the old C-Class but around $9-12k cheaper than the equivalent E-Class Coupe.
For future reference, the CLE300 4Matic Cabriolet will be priced from $135,900.
Standard features on both models includes 19-inch alloy wheels, AMG Line exterior and interior packages, a panoramic sunroof, 64-colour ambient cabin lighting, heated front seats with memory function, a head-up display, a 12.3-inch digital instrument display, plus the latest MBUX infotainment system which runs through an 11.9-inch touchscreen as well as Burmester surround sound system. One of the key specification differences between the CLE200 and CLE300, aside from the powertrain, is the interior trim, with the cheaper model using synthetic leather while the more expensive one gets the genuine article.
Tech-overload alert. As per its predecessor, the Q8 e-tron 55 continues with two electric motors – one on each axle – for ‘quattro’ all-wheel drive.
Upgraded internals are said to improve efficiency substantially. Both are induction/asynchronous motors, mated to a single-gear two-stage ratio planetary transmission.
In the 55 model, the dual-motor set-up delivers a combined 300kW of power and 664Nm of torque, for a healthy 0-100km/h sprint-time of 5.6 seconds, on the way to a 200km/h top speed.
That’s impressive, given the lightest Q8 e-tron 55 tips the scales from 2595kg. That said, the Audi’s power-to-weight ratio is an equally strong 116kg/tonne.
Other updates include more direct steering, stiffer front suspension and retuned chassis controls.
Suspension is a five-link arrangement all-around, with adaptive air suspension featuring an electronically controlled with continuously variable adaptive damping system.
The CLE200 and CLE300 are both powered by four-cylinder turbocharged petrol engines, albeit in different states of tune, and each assisted by a mild-hybrid integrated starter generator.
The CLE200 Coupé makes 150kW and 320Nm and sends it to the rear wheels via a nine-speed auto transmission. While the CLE300 4Matic Coupé gets 190kW and 400Nm but also gets (as the name gives away) Mercedes’ 4Matic all-wheel-drive system.
While not really a hybrid in the conventional sense, the integrated starter generator adds an extra 17kW/205Nm boost when required while also helping to save fuel.
The good news is that the lithium-ion battery pack size rises from 95kWh to 114kWh, and is accompanied by faster DC charging capability, due to a jump from 150kW to 170kW.
While far from the class best, this cuts down charging times by a considerable margin.
The claimed driving range is 454km, while average consumption is a disappointing 25.6kWh/100km. The Q8 e-tron’s trip computer during our run in it recorded a mid-to-high 20s readout, by the way.
Make no mistake, the integrated starter generator is a mild-hybrid system, so don’t expect to see miserly returns from the CLE. Instead, the official figures for the pair are quite close, despite the different drivetrains.
The CLE200 has a claimed fuel rating of 7.2L/100km, while the CLE300 uses 7.4L/100km.
For decades, Audi used the advertising tagline ‘Vorsprung durch Technik’ – which means Progress through Technology in its native German – to highlight how advanced its vehicles are.
So, how has the Q8 e-tron advanced over its predecessor?
Right from the get-go, there’s so much to dig about the electric Audi SUV, especially if you’re new to luxury EVs.
To start with, it’s as quiet as you’d expect, even by luxury brand standards. As the Audi accelerates, the sense of momentum is somewhat masked by how refined and civilised your progress is.
Watch that, though. You could get a speeding fine more easily than you expect!
Anyway, with 664Nm of torque coming on instantly, there’s certainly no shortage of it, backed up by enough muscle for effortless and instantaneous overtaking. This sort of motoring can become highly addictive.
Similarly, a low centre of gravity, combined with a beautifully modulated electric power steering and the quattro AWD set-up, provides pleasing agility combined with reassuring roadholding. Even when you’re pressing on, the Q8 e-tron corners and grip with confidence and control.
So far, so good. Especially considering the air suspension is further cushioning your sense of speed, with excellent bump absorption for an isolated ride.
That’s on the standard 20-inch alloys spec. Riding on the larger wheels, there is a bit more firmness, as well as some road-noise intrusion.
Plus, it doesn’t take long to realise the Q8 e-tron is a very heavy vehicle. Though undeniably quick and athletic, changing directions in a hurry means that the SUV can feel a bit unwieldy.
Throttle response at higher velocities can seem a little muted and, over certain crests and humps when travelling fast, there is a sense that the driver really needs to have their wits about them.
Best to take it a bit easier, then, and enjoy the serenity the Audi EV SUV delivers in more typical and restrained travelling scenarios.
There is so much that the Q8 e-tron brings, and driving it normally really does reveal a sophisticated, comfortable, dependable and high-quality grand-touring experience.
Push a bit harder, though, and some cracks show up.
To judge the CLE on its driving merits you first need to understand where it fits within the broader Mercedes-Benz line-up. Put simply, while coupes are seen as sporty cars, the German brand has other models that are designed to appeal to driving enthusiasts; such as the upcoming AMG versions of this car and the AMG GT Coupe.
So within that context, the CLE200 and CLE300 do an admirable job of being stylish cruisers that feel at home in the city but not out of place on a winding country road.
Sports suspension is standard on Australian delivered models, making it 15mm lower than overseas versions and fitted with firmer passive damping too. But still, it doesn’t translate to a dynamically agile and engaging sports coupe suddenly, instead it just gives the CLE a bit more sharpness when turning, at the expense of some comfort on pockmarked roads.
The engines perform nicely, the CLE200 feels adequately endowed with its 150kW/320Nm, so naturally the 190kW/400Nm CLE300 just feels like it has a bit more pep in its step. But I’d question the value of the all-wheel-drive system in a car like this, especially in Australia where the roads are rarely very slippery.
Tested way back in 2019 but updated in September, 2023, the e-tron/Q8 e-tron range scored a maximum five-star ANCAP crash-test rating.
There is no shortage of safety equipment – with passive and active, driver-assist-heavy technologies designed to avoid an accident, with full surround-view cameras also providing an extra level of security.
Standard kit includes Audi’s 'Pre-Sense front' and 'Pre-Sense rear', offering AEB, cross-traffic alert and active lane-keep assistance tech, as well as adaptive cruise control with full stop/go, eight airbags (dual front as well as side and curtain airbags for all outboard occupants), hill-descent control, anti-lock brakes, electronic brake-force distribution, brake-assist, electronic stability control, traction control and tyre pressure monitors.
The AEB system can detect pedestrians and cyclists between 10km/h and 85km/h, and even at night, while for other motor vehicles that increases to 250km/h (an upper velocity more relevant for the coming SQ8 e-tron). The active lane warning operations is from 65-250km/h.
Both outboard rear seats feature ISOFIX child-seat latches, along with three top tethers for straps.
Both CLE models come with all the usual passive and active safety features you’d expect on a modern luxury car, including autonomous emergency braking, ‘Active Lane Keeping Assist’, ‘Active Brake Assist’, blind spot monitoring, traffic sign assist, active cruise control and Mercedes’ ‘Pre-Safe’ accident anticipation system. There’s also a ‘Parking Package’ with 360-degree camera view to keep you and those around you safe at low speeds.
There’s no ANCAP rating for this new model announced yet, but previously both the C-Class Coupe and E-Class Coupe were tested.
Audi provides a five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty as well as six-years’ worth of free roadside assistance, which is nothing unusual these days, while the battery warranty is eight years or 160,000km.
The first six years of scheduled servicing is free, too. Intervals are every two years/30,000km (whichever comes first).
Plus, owners also receive six years of complimentary access to Chargefox’s network.
The CLE is covered by Mercedes Australia’s usual five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty.
The brand offers pre-purchased service plans for maintenance covering three, four or five years, starting at $3325 then $4535 and then $6800.