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Test drive: Land Rover Discovery SE

  • By Neil Dowling
  • The Sunday Times
image This is simply a brilliant 4WD that is equally as composed and assured in the dirt as on the road. Photo Gallery

Land Rover has discovered a better product equals a bigger audience.

Legends are created by vehicles like the Land Rover in much the same way that John Wayne became an icon in the never-ending television war between cowboys and Indians.

John Wayne would now roll in his grave. The Indians have taken the legend and are ready to make it their own. No, not John Wayne and the cowboys — the Land Rover.

There's an expectation that things would change as Land Rover's new owner, the giant Tata conglomerate of India, starts exercising its rights of ownership.

But it's early days. Land Rover is reputed to be a better company over the past few months as Tata peers into its more recent quality issues.

Something must be working because Land Rover agents report almost non-existent warranty issues with the most recent Discovery 3.

That's welcome news because about the only hiccup I had with Land Rover was its perceived lack of quality. Go back a decade or two and we're talking rubbish quality.

On test this issue, the latest Discovery TDV6 SE showed the past issues have been purged.

This is simply a brilliant 4WD that is equally as composed and assured in the dirt as on the road.

Models and pricing

For the price — $75,990 — it is a whopping $8000 cheaper than the Toyota Land Cruiser GXL V8 turbo-diesel and it's a better vehicle. I wouldn't have said that 10 years ago.

The S version that sits under the SE is $67,590 as an automatic and is just as inviting as the SE though probably better suits the family that will actually go bush.

You can then pay $86,590 for the even more upmarket HSE but you'd be better off going to the $90,900 Range Rover Sport TDV6. Exterior:

There is no mistake that if this is parked in a supermarket carpark, on a private school verge or halfway up the Canning Stock Route, that this is a serious 4WD.

It's functional to the point of being military and yet there's something domesticated about it as well. Look how there's no spare tyre on the back door (it's under the chassis rails) so the shape is uncluttered.

Think about a plastic roo bar for this one, even if it's just to save that blunt 1sq.m of plastic nose that is just dying to crumple up against a tree in the desert, Skippy's great grandson or the tight Turn 6 in the city carpark.

Interior

Inside it's equally as neat. Functionality meets subtle luxury in a cabin that, in the TDV6 SE tested, includes leather and lots of pastel hues with alloy-look trim pieces and interesting arrays of switches and knobs. Kids would have a ball in here (just don't give them the keys).

The Discovery is a seven seater. But it's a seven seater with a difference because it seats seven adults. Not leprechauns, amputees or kindergarten pupils — real big people.

Granted, it does it with minimal luggage room though there's enough flexibility to arrange the seats to store an eclectic mix of humans and stowage.

The horizontal split tailgate may be a tad old fashioned and be a clumsy two-handed operation, but the fold-down section aids loading heavy luggage and doubles as a seat.

Above everything, the cabin looks fantastic. Even your mates with luxury saloons will love this thing.

Drivetrains and chassis

You've heard about the 2.7-litre turbo-diesel through its use in some Jaguar sedans, other Land Rovers and some Peugeots.

Different electronic mapping and different turbochargers alter the power and torque figures. For the Discovery the bent six gets one turbocharger and one intercooler.

This is a lovely little engine though suffers a tad in the 2.6-plus tonne Discovery.

But it gets a reprieve thanks mainly to the ZF six-speed auto with sequential shift — a box that now is as common as noses — and a 4WD low-range ratio that is one of the lowest in the off-road business.

The Disco gets Land Rover's famed Terrain Response system. This is basically a Play School panel with bright colours and diagrams — no words, let's keep it simple folks — allowing the driver to select the terrain, the high or low-range gearbox, the hill descent function or height adjustment courtesy of the pneumatic suspension.

In a word, brilliant. Just dial up, go easy on the throttle and any terrain is putty in your hands.

I love the suspension for its ultra-supple ride but criticise it for its poor wheel travel. However, just when you think traction will suffer, the Disco's sophisticated traction control — which sources firm ground via sensors and will redirect power to any single wheel — pulls the wagon out of potential trouble.

The Discovery sits on a frame to which a body is then affixed. This adds a lot of weight but keeps everything durable. Monocoque bodies are lighter and can be tauter, but there's something secure about having a couple of train tracks under your seat when taking to the dirt. Equipment

Standard fare rates highly. The more sophisticated sat-nav in the test car was the only extra-cost item. Around town it's a nice aid but serious bush folk would get a big-screen unit from VMS for about the same price.

Leather is a luxury touch and looks great with its perforations. However, while it suits the city you may consider downsizing to the cloth-trimmed Discovery S or get seat covers.

The SE adds a six-disc CD player with eight speakers, park sensors front and rear, cruise control and climate airconditioning.

The xenon headlights are a boon for the country and are also standard issue on the SE.

Driving

This is a big machine with a relatively small engine. And it's a diesel, to boot.

But though there can be some initial lag off the mark, it's a sprightly performer and will more than keep up with most traffic.

Unusually, it doesn't seem to lose its spark when there's three adults aboard which reflects its meaty torque output.

Much of the performance can be aimed at the six-speed auto box that neatly spaces the cogs to suit the low-end power delivery of the engine. Drivers who want to work the box for extra zing may use the sequential mode, though this is suggested mainly when overtaking, towing or for specific off-road sections.

The engine's quietness and smoothness is so petrol-like that you'll fool most of your friends. That keeps the vehicle quiet and comfy for long journeys and won't make it compete with the clarity of the audio system.

The ride comfort will also surprise you. Sure, on the road it's like a big sedan but it's the first corner that will reassess your opinions of large 4WDs.

Thanks to an electronic suspension monitor working on the air springs, body roll is kept to a minimum. That's welcome but just don't get too confident — the body may feel controlled but the tyres may be ready to sign off.

The steering is pleasantly light — because there's a lot of hydraulic assistance between the wheel and your hands — making city parking easy and off-road excursions painless despite the large number of turns lock-to-lock.

Most work on test was gravel though there was a beachside exercise. The low-speed engine torque indicates 4WD High will complete most tasks though the Discovery really comes into its own when the 4WD Low lever is engaged.

The drive is a very low 2.93:1 (most 4WDs are in the 1.5:1 category) which gives the heavy vehicle a lot of pull when things get very sandy or slippery.

Hot beach sand has the traction coefficient of body talc but it didn't deter the test vehicle. Select the Terrain Response picture with the cactus (that's desert as in sand) and raise the suspension and the system refines its power for a low-speed, low-response delivery that will minimise wheel spin.

The tyres were partially deflated — down to 18psi — for the beach stint. They could have gone down to 12psi if things became tricky.

In the gravel the picture of rocks was selected, so again there was a slightly retarded throttle response.

When raised on its suspension the Discovery has a 310mm ground clearance which is more than sufficient for most off-road pursuits. I was initially concerned about the spare wheel bolted under the rear of the chassis rails but the only touchdown on test was the exhaust pipe under the driver's seat while crawling over a gravel mound.

After the drive to the country and the day's outing in the sun, the Disco's computer recorded 11.2 litres/100km. How good is that? Around town I made it climb to 11.9 l/100km but even that was with three adults and a route through morning traffic.

This is a superb machine. Perhaps I'd ask for a bigger fuel tank — it's 82 and could go closer to 100 litres — to give it more legs in the country. Beyond that, I'm sold.


 

Price: $75,990

Engine: 2.7-litre, V6, quad-cam, 24-valve, turbocharger, intercooler

Power: 140kW @ 4000rpm

Torque: 440Nm @ 1900rpm

Fuel tank: 82 litres (diesel)

Economy (official): 10.2 litres/100km, (tested): 11.9 litres/100km

Performance: 0-100km/h: 11.7sec

Transmission: 6-speed automatic, sequential, 2-speed transfer; constant 4WD

Tow (max): 3500kg

 

Comments on this story

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  • Although very few people will probably read this I have to agree wit Mel Green. I am not sold that all of the problems with the older models are gone, I have had front diff replaced too, radiator sensor, airconditioning push road, just to name the ones I can remember.

    John Jackman of Adelaide SA Posted on 20 June 2009 11:50pm
  • Most versatile car out there - even if you don’t go bush a lot. I love mine, have done around 80,000 km in the last 3 years, been on several offroad trips, transported seven non-amputees in style (the Leprachauns had to make do in the boot), moved 2.4x1.2m ply-wood sheets inside (ok, they were flexible), can carry 3 meter long bits of wood inside, put 3 bikes in the boot and still take 4 people along (2 bikes on carrier at the back)and use less fuel than in any other people mover I have ever owned (what choice have you got if you have three kids and want to take some friends along as well?).
    My main complaint? It is way too comfortable out bush; sometimes in between the more difficult bits I have to wind down the windows just to remember I am out there.
    Certainly beats the Toyota Prado Grande I had before hands down. And I am sure that in the hands of ‘real men’ such as Morris it can do even more.
    After initially disliking the design I was sold after the first test drive on bitumen - the difference to the Prado was unbelievable. And being able to sit comfortably in a proper seat in the last row at 183cm is pretty cool, too, in a car which doesn’t look like a people mover.
    My apologies for any grammatical errors or typos.
    smile
    Life’s too short to be serious all the time.

    Steffan of Melbourne Posted on 16 May 2009 8:29pm
  • Morris Dancer, 12 PSI is not too low without rim locks and in your own style, you neglected to warn the motoring public that it is illegal at least in NSW to use rim locks on roads or land that require a vehicle to be road registered. Tailgate mounted spare tyres aren’t ideal either, so I’ll continue to happily mount the spare under the vehicle where it has suffered no ill effects over many years of off road and outback use.

    Mel green of Melbourne,  I am sad to hear you have had so much trouble, but it will be back to Japanese made 4WD’s for you.

    Melinda of Newtown Posted on 17 April 2009 12:54pm
  • LAND ROVER WILL ALWAYS REMAIN THE BENCH MARK FOR 4WD

    JOHN HAWK of QLD Posted on 08 April 2009 10:54pm
  • Hmmm good to hear that a few Land Rover Discovery 3 TD owners are happy with their vehicles. I purchased the Discovery 3 for my retirement and to undertake a major round Australia trip and have to say when I took delivery I thought this is the best car I had ever owned, three years and 50,000 kilometres down the track my experience includes, instrument pack faulty and replaced, air suspension faults, two new front differentials, tie rod replacement, RH front lower ball joint arm and ball joint replaced, second lower ball joint replaced, three wheel alignments, front window not working, loose wiring, indicators not working, loose wires, water leaking from sunroof, (twice), radio not switching off, radio complete fail, an intermittent fault with another window not working and countless stop light globe replacements. The vehicle has never been off road, always garaged. In the case of my previous (and much less expensive) vehicles, a Nissan Pathfinder, a Mitsubishi Pajero and a Toyota Land Cruiser, I never had the need to replace tyres under 80,000 km, (I have now been informed that one tyre is scrubbed out and requires replacement and 3 nearly worn out). In addition, I usually get 70,000 kms on a set of brakes, 31,000 kms and required replacement. I have always purchased new vehicles, and I have never suffered the litany of maintenance difficulties and inconvenience with any other vehicle, save this Discovery 3. I note from some recent advertising that the Discovery 3 TDV6 has won fourth year in succession both the “Best Large Diesel Wagon” and “Best Overall” category. I certainly purchased my vehicle on the basis of the Discovery 3 being awarded the “Best 4 wheel drive of the year award” and am bitterly disappointed. I have lost total confidence in the Discovery 3 and certainly would not contemplate any form of remote travel in the vehicle. Complaining gets you nowhere on the local scene and ended up going direct to the CEO of Tata Motors, who referred back to the UK who referred back to Australia with no effort by Land Rover to negotiate at any point about what has clearly been a poorly built vehicle. I guess next step is to advertise my experience on the back of the TDV6 and go to court.

    Mel Green of Melbourne Posted on 26 March 2009 11:32am
  • As an owner of an MY09 Disco 3 I would go even further in singing the praises of this remarkable vehicle.

    The build quality is excellent, the ride quality is sublime, and the engine and transmission work brilliantly to move such a large vehicle along.

    The space and flexibility of the interior is nothing short of amazing. The third row seating is brilliant and when stowed does not hinder storage space (meanwhile the Landcruiser still uses prehistoric fold up seating in the back).

    The Disco has a feeling of coherence and solidity about it - like it has been sculpted out of a single block of metal.

    I recently drove a new Toyota Kluger and it felt like a toy in comparison.

    The Disco’s TDV6 is a brilliant engine, but for those who think it is not enough there is a new 3.0 L turbo diesel V6 on its way later this year.

    Anyone who is thinking about buying a 4wd/ people move / luxury saloon MUST put the the Disco on their test drive list.

    Once you drive it you will discover just how far behind the competition are.

    Matt of Brisbane Posted on 08 February 2009 10:30am
  • morris, still freelancing?

    havn’t’ heard of you before mate!

    your just one one those annoying know it alls….get a life

    Good job Neil

    mik of bris Posted on 05 February 2009 10:27pm
  • Good to see an article written about a Landrover without inbuilt bias toward a Toyota.
    Morris Dancer should be aware that rimlocks or beadlocks are actually illegal on road registered vehicle & in fact deflating tyres to 12lbs is OK if the driver is consistetly aware of the terrain & the speed they are travelling. I consistly air down to 15lb as do most of the group I 4wd drive with - no one has rolled a tyre off the rim yet.
    In addition my traction control systems have remained operational in fairly severe conditions.
    You can purchase a spare tyre mounting system to relocate the spare from under neath to the rear bar.

    David Waterfield of Fawkner Posted on 04 February 2009 6:17pm
  • Harry – I hope Tata can reduce the gap between the petrol and diesel but the R & D costs were low on the petrol and huge on the diesel, building such a different block plus the extra cost of redesigning it to be single turbo for a more suitable torque curve to pull 6730kg.

    David of Townsville Posted on 04 February 2009 5:56pm
  • Neil – Good article, apparently your grammar was not correct? I asked an amputee if she enjoyed the article and she did. I could not find any Leprechauns or Kindergarten pupils at this point in time but plenty of real big people.
    Morris – Did you miss out on getting this job? I do hope you don’t write about anything younger than an FJ40 because you clearly don’t have a clue. I could correct your misunderstandings but I do believe you are stuck in 1978.

    David of Townsville Posted on 04 February 2009 4:27pm
  • Will Tata be looking at the price difference between the standard Petrol and the Diesel - almost $10k difference is a bit much

    Harry of Sydney Posted on 04 February 2009 12:21pm
  • After 35 yrs on all dirt roads,fixing travellers and my own fleet of Mail Delivery 4x4’s I’d submit that Morris Dancers comments don’t indicate the understanding of the real-world use of a current Landrover. That car has proved OK out here,(in the outback of SA) proving that truck-type 4x4’s are unneccessary in most uses. Dancers comments on tyre pressures are quite wrong in my experience of crossing the Simpson dozens of times at 10psi and no rim locks. I think Dancer must be an old guy with a grudge and beard!

    adam plate of oodnadatta SA Posted on 04 February 2009 11:26am
  • As if the author’s numerous basic grammatical errors (”... equally as ...”; ) and insensitivity (” ... Not leprechauns, amputees or kindergarten pupils — real big people.”) weren’t bad enough, he demonstrates ignorance of off-road basics such as:
    * the limitation of all electronic traction control systems (they stop operating during sustained use);
    * the stupidity of deflating tyres without rim-locks to 12psi (BTW, we went metric several decades ago);
    * the inherent unsuitability and structural weakness of all-independent suspension;
    * the fact that raising independent suspension diminishes its articulation; and
    * the value of a tailgate-mounted spare tyre.

    Oh, and hydraulic steering assistance is between the rack (another of the Discovery 3’s many off-road weaknesses) and the steering wheel, not the ” ...wheel and your hands.”.

    Yet another boy sent on a man’s errand.

    'Morris Dancer' (freelance 4WD journalist) of Sydney, Australia Posted on 04 February 2009 1:35am
  • The alloy wheel design has been around for about fifteen years. Can we move on Land Rover.

    Howard Posted on 03 February 2009 2:41pm
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