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Toyota fuel cell car for 2014

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    Toyota's Craig Scott says hydrogen will eventually take the place of gasoline, overtaking recent gains in battery-powered plug-ins.

A super-green hydrogen-powered Toyota priced at less than $50,000 should be ready for the road as early as 2014.

The zero-pollution city car will be ready for preview drives in less than two years, and perhaps as early as the second half of 2012, after a long-running fuel cell development program in the USA. Toyota is running a small fleet of hydrogen-powered Kluger SUVs and has now completed the essential work needed to transplant its knowledge into a showroom car that's similar in size to the Yaris.

"It's going to happen," Craig Scott, manager of the advanced technologies group at Toyota in the USA, reveals to Carsguide. He is convinced hydrogen is the fuel of the future, even if there are only a handful of filling stations in the USA and none yet in Australia.

Honda already has a limited number of its Clarity fuel cell cars on the road in Japan and the USA, Mercedes-Benz is well advanced with a program using its B-Class - and has just completed a round-the-world promotional tour - and GM is also running Chevrolet SUV trial cars in California on hydrogen.

Scott says hydrogen will eventually take the place of gasoline, overtaking recent gains in battery-powered plug-in cars.

"I'm a believer. I think there will be a very limited role for batteries (inside 50 years), they will be second or third cars." He says it will be easier to convert to hydrogen, despite the existing power grid for plug-ins.

"If everyone plugs their car in at home in the same street the local transformer will blow. If you upgrade the local one, then next one will blow. There isn't enough capacity," Scott says. "Electric-vehicle infrastructure will be more expensive to instal than hydrogen infrastructure."

He only hints to Carsguide about the coming production car but points to a much smaller vehicle thanks to advances in the fuel-cell 'stack' - which generates electricity - and high-pressure tanks that use a combination of plastic and aluminium. Comparing with the Kluger - officially called the Fuel Cell Hybrid Vehicle - he points to several advances.

"The new car will be nothing like this. The powertrain is considerably larger than the production model," says Scott. "This is an engineering experiment. We've had a lot of learnings. Previously we needed a vehicle of this size for packaging, but not now."

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  • Battery electric cars are great, but have limitations even if they were ideal today, meaning that the batteries lasted 20 years+ and you could charge them in 5 minutes so the car could do 500kls.Our existing petrol gas cars use chemical energy we get from crude oil, and such is extremely energy rich.500kls of energy for a car is a lot of energy and battery electric cars that are ideal as above, must get a lot of electrical energy from somewhere. We must make the electrical energy for battery electric cars; we can't dig it up from the ground like crud oil. For a large number of battery electric cars to run on our roads within say ten (10) years, many more power stations would need building just to produce the energy needed. Dispensation is another issue. Renewable power stations are taking time to build so why is electric power being pushed in the US at the moment, contrary to Europe? What forces operate in the US at the moment and why is the $64K question? There are "smoke" screens backed by funding but the hidden focus is Hydrogen and has always been so. Such a massive movement away from oil was always going to cause trouble, hydrogen has been behind it all-have a think about it.

    Stephen Zorbas of Australia Posted on 02 September 2011 9:37pm
  • Haha, Garry you are a clod. If I bought a hydrogen vehicle, and they are a great idea, I wouldn't buy it for the "green" aspect of it because I am not in the slightest interested in appeasing Greenies violent fury over a load of hot air about a fabricated theory which has no backing. Rather, I'd buy it because they are so cost effective. If they got the manufacturing of the technology to similar to normal cars, it would be so much cheaper to run. Don't get rid of fossil fuel, though, because I just can't imagine an EV towing a 3 tonne trailer full of materials and tools to work. Or an Electric B-Double. Forget it.

    whoozi Posted on 15 August 2011 8:46am
  • I believe the Hydrogen fuel cell car has a future up until the time when battery technology can match the range of Hydrogen and will have a recharge time comparable to filling the tank with Hydrogen. In all other respects it is an electric car so it will be a far easier job to replace the Hydrogen tanks and Fuel cell with the next generation of batteries. I believe that Hybrids are transitionary technology and are a bit of a waste of time. Let?s go straight to Electric with a mixture of batteries for short range vehicles, which by the way is over 90 per cent of the cars on the road today! With Hydrogen fuel cells for longer range. Let?s give Fossill fuel the flick; we don?t need it any more. We are moving from the Flintstones to Star Trek.

    Garry Barbuto of Sydney Australia Posted on 11 August 2011 3:13pm
  • Fuel cell makes more sense than electric vehicles.

    phuong Posted on 09 August 2011 2:49pm
  • What shade of green do you call "super green"? I've seen some very nice shades of green on recent Commodores and Mazda?s. And the picture you put with the article is obviously not relevant to the story - it doesn't appear the least bit green. Or are you referring the fuel? Well I'm afraid hydrogen is colourless.

    David of rainbowland Posted on 09 August 2011 2:29pm
  • @john spooner, hydrogen can not be stored in liquid form unless cryogenically in large insulated tanks unlike LPG that is liquid at normal ambient temps. It has to be stored in very high pressure bottles or combined in a substrate such as a metal hydride so the storage is vastly different.

    James Hunter of metford nsw Posted on 09 August 2011 1:41pm
  • In reality these types of vehicles will only be affordable to be driven by the affluent members of society. Being a flammable gas such as LPG at least tends to indicate that existing gas system technology could be used with H2.

    John Spooner of Adelaide. Posted on 08 August 2011 10:03pm
  • Sean T, a fuel cell makes electricity therefore a fuel cell powered vehicle needs an electric motor. It would also need to include a battery to provide the peak power required for acceleration, therefore regenerative breaking would be a given. A battery about 1 to 2 kW hrs capacity would be likely.

    Alan G of adelaide Posted on 08 August 2011 11:12am
  • How about mating fuel cell to an electric motor to make it a hybrid, in order to make use the regenerating braking power?

    sean t Posted on 05 August 2011 12:24pm
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