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Fuel Commuters turn to public transport as fuel prices hit almost $1.72 a litre in some cities.

More commuters are ditching their cars as petrol hits almost $1.72 a litre.

Sydneysiders are leading the push away from cars, with a 6 per cent increase in public transport use over the past year and a corresponding 6 per cent decrease in drivers.

But problems with the reliability and safety of public transport are still stopping other drivers who want to switch from leaving the car at home. Nationally three in five commuters drive to get to work or school, while one in five use public transport. Only one in 10 ride a bike or walk to work.


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Research, to be released today, shows Sydney commuters are the highest users of public transport nationally, with 26 per cent catching the train or a bus to work or school.

Battered by soaring petrol prices and peak-hour congestion, only 57 per cent of commuters now drive to work - the lowest proportion of any capital city.

But even so more than one-third of Sydney commuters (35 per cent) refuse to use public transport because it takes too long, almost four in 10 say it is unreliable (38 per cent) and one-quarter (25 per cent) say it is not available where they live, work or go to school.

About 7 per cent of Sydney commuters say they are worried about their safety on public transport.


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In Melbourne, only one in five braves the stretched public transport system, according to the survey by insurer AAMI.

But more than two-thirds of them said they would be happy to use public transport if services were more reliable, more frequent, and safer.

In Darwin, nearly 75 per cent of Darwin commuters drive to and from work or school - with the lack of availability and reliability cited as key reasons for not using public transport.

AAMI corporate affairs manager Mike Sopinski said high fuel prices, consecutive interest rate rises and sinking consumer confidence were contributing to a rethink in how people travelled in our cities.

He said there was also a growing concern for the environment among commuters.

"Forcing people's hands are fuel prices and the availability of fuel so governments will need to plan for that," he said.

"Over the next two to three years the use of motor vehicles will change and their attitude to daily commuting will change.

"Reports say the price of petrol is heading towards $2 a litre by the end of the year. This will force people into car pooling and into lighter vehicles." Click here for more news on the petrol crisis.

 

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  • Surely its time the media or the politicians asked the oil companies how they can make 16 million dollars an hour while holding the population to ransom. My business involves driving thousands of kilometres all over the country and its very hard to make any profit! It is also an essential business for the mining industry and trucking.

    Kaye Crawford of Broadford Posted on 20 June 2008 6:32pm
  • Petrol prices don't worry us any more. Ever since we purchased a dedicated gas Falcon stationwagon we haven't looked back, Im so impressed with the car i now want to by a second one for my self possibly a ute, we done a trip to QLD recently something we would have not even considered before. Not only that its a big car so we can fit all the kids all our gear and the dog as well, Try and do that with a prius.

    John of Echuca Posted on 20 June 2008 3:51pm
  • There is no doubt that fuel prices are hurting everyone in the wallet, including myself which is why I will be looking to change over my petrol engine to electric. There is a bit of research involved and ther are plenty of websites and books which will help out for the supply of the materials. From my research I have found that an average conversion is around $8000 which is the cost for all the parts to put into your existing car. Now a few interesting calculations, if you spend $8000 on a conversion and with the current price of fuel at around $1.70 a litre, $8000 equals 4700 Litres of fuel. If you have a family car we will say that you use 60 litres a week, so 4700 litres would last 78 weeks which is around 1.5 years. So this initial investment of $8000 already pays for itself in that time. This is a simplified way to look at the whole electric car conversion but from my calculations it works out cheaper than fuel. I'm prepared to go head to head with the big oil companies because I am sick of being ripped off at the petrol station.

    Cory of Adelaide Posted on 20 June 2008 2:50pm
  • Has anyone else cottoned on to the idea that the price of fuel may very well be realitive to the fact that we've almost wiped out any other way that a terrorist might be able to attack us. Think about it for a second. Who controls the oil? Who's fighting them? How much are we paying for fuel again? And I agree with another person whose commented- why doesn't the government cap the fuel excise to stop profiteering off our suffering.

    Kylie H Posted on 20 June 2008 1:29pm
  • Its time the government stopped talking about & watching petrol prices & actually did something about it. A start would be to reduce the tax excise on fuel, not a fuel watch scheme. What a ridiculous idea. So when we need fuel we get on the internet to see where the cheap fuel is all to save 2 cents a litre, but more than likely have to travel further out to get it. Who of us actually know how much fuel in in there car at the moment? Its not until you get in your car that you realise that you need fuel. Unless you have internet in your car or on your phone, you can check where cheap fuel is. But this has just cost you more than the saving that you where expecting on your fuel. So run back inside & check on the net... waste some more of your valuable time. As part of my business I have a fuel card that I can only use at BP stations, so this fuel watching scheme is useless to me & obviously to others too. The Rudd government must think we are stupid. Some of us pay enough tax, how much more do they need, when all they seem to do is spend it in useless areas. They need to get their priorities right rather than concentrate on unnecessary issues. As for public transport, most states have proved that their systems are unreliable. I am sick of hearing that we should use more public transport. Don't they understand that not all people have access to it or that its just not an option. As part of my job I am on the road most of the day. Fortunately the car I use in this instance has LPG but even that has increase significantly, which I cant understand why. Probably because more of us now have gas so why not increase the price of that too. My other vehicle only takes Premium unleaded which is always 10 cents a litre more. I don't drive this vehicle as often as I used to. Its absolutely ridiculous and I feel for the truckies, tradies & all others that are continuously on the road and have no choice but to pay these absurd prices. Rudd... stop talking & watching, pull your finger out & reduce the tax excise on fuel.

    Jim M of Adelaide Posted on 20 June 2008 1:21pm
  • This whole petrol panic thing is ridiculous. I drive a BA Falcon which I accidentally filled with premium yesterday - 1.81. It cost me abot 97 bucks to fill the tank. That's not a small amount of money, but at a 1.61 its only costing me an extra 10 bucks or something to cover the extra. Oh no. every tuesday when the prices are a few cents lower you see hoards of cars queing up at the cheap fuel for 20 minutes in order to save only a few dollars. These are 30-40k cars as well, which smacks of a complete lack of common sense and or absolute horrible management of money if its that desperate. Stop using your credit cards and buying stuff you can't afford and the problem wouldn't be so bad.

    Alasdair Underwood of Melbourne Posted on 20 June 2008 11:11am
  • I have moved to an environmental, fuel efficient and fun type of transport a number of years ago....... A Scooter!! Why wouldn't you ride a scooter? They run on the smell of an oily rag, you can park them anywhere and they are fun. Being in Queensland we have lovely sunny weather. I understand that petrol prices are getting high and it hurts alot of people financially but it is also showing us that in most cases there are REAL alternatives moving around our cities. I also agree Public Transport is quite poor in Queensland and needs improvement and is only as good as the road it runs own. Scooters should be eligible for Enviromental Government grants just like people who install solar hotwater systems and rain water tanks. We use less fuel and release less emmisions so why doesn't the Government get behind us and support 2 wheels????

    Ben Silver of Brisbane Posted on 20 June 2008 10:49am
  • All of this talk about ditching a car and going for unreliable public transport is nonsense. What about a scooter? This has the petrol, congestion and also the environmental benefit! Europeans have been doing it for decades. Get on a scooter! Have your own timetable!

    Peter of brisbane Posted on 20 June 2008 10:32am
  • Its all well and good that people are resorting to public transport when petrol gets excessive, but that doesn't help those in country areas with limited or no public transport. The only public transport where I am is the school bus. I personally live 30+kms from the nearest Primary School, Petrol Station, 50+ kms from the nearest shops, doctor, Ambulance service, High School, 70+ kms from the nearest hospital. So the more the fuel rises the less I can afford to do and unfortunately people in my similar situation can do nothing more than grin and bear it.

    Sally of Beyond the black stump, QLD Posted on 20 June 2008 9:38am
  • Its all well and good that people are resorting to public transport when petrol gets excessive, but that doesn't help those in country areas with limited or no public transport. The only public transport where I am is the school bus. I personally live 30+kms from the nearest Primary School, Petrol Station, 50+ kms from the nearest shops, doctor, Ambulance service, High School, 70+ kms from the nearest hospital. So the more the fuel rises the less I can afford to do and unfortunately people in my similar situation can do nothing more than grin and bear it.

    Sally of Beyond the black stump, QLD Posted on 20 June 2008 9:14am
  • Public transport is all good and well when you have a train every 10 mins during peak hour. What about us that only get 2 trains a day? Those of us that aren't in the cities pay more for fuel anyway and having to drive 53km's each way to work adds up to over $100 a week. More if i have to work weekends.

    Bob Posted on 20 June 2008 7:42am
  • Adjust excise and tax to a fixed price so it does not profit anymore off the Australian people. There is a need to take a tax to pay for roads but we need to fix the prices of these taxes so the Government does not profit from the rising petrol prices which will lead the government to listen to public outcry! The Government could also spend the 30billion it was giving in tax cuts on grants and research towards a sustainable and green alternative. With that sort of money Australia could lead the way in alternative fuels. I Voted Labor and I don't think that the government can influence crude oil prices but it can cut down on its taxes to a year or 2 ago and fix them.

    Keith of NSW Posted on 20 June 2008 2:00am
  • Iwas wondering with the petrol price rising and the Govenment subsidies for conversion to gas why is no one talking about conversions to the Fitch fuel catalystwhich i have just had installed you get better performance and extra mileage out of a full tankand cleaner burning fuel which is good for the inviromentpeaple can reseach the Fitch Catalyst on there website www.fitchcatalyst.com.au i highly recomed peaple lok at this alternative as i was going to go gas but could not come up with the $2200 for $450 i have a more aficent runing car and very minimal polution Thank you sorry about my spelling

    Russell Knight of Wollongong n.s.w Posted on 20 June 2008 1:00am
  • We all know that the fuel prices are a rip off. Arabs and Opec members are rolling in it, laughing away while the rest of the world suffers. It is time for all the common people like you and me to rise up against them. National Governments around the Globe must stand against them. People of the civilized world are starting to do just that. Fisherman, Truck drivers, Farmers etc are all standing up and letting their leaders know they are hurting. Soon we will not have to worry about Terrorists as people across all classes feel the pain as it worsens and worsens. The price of diesel is the craziest. Why is it so expensive? This is why food and everything else is going though the roof. Something must be done. Everybody is still sitting on the arse doing noting, especially the politicians. Stand up and fight I say. I don't care about getting money back from medicare, or child care. We need help now, every day or every day we go to the shops for food and every week we fill up our tanks.

    Matt Nudl of Brisbane Posted on 19 June 2008 11:12pm
  • Public transport in QLD is as useless as a water-proof teabag. Unfortunately not going to work would hurt a hell of a lot more than not driving.

    John Young Posted on 19 June 2008 11:07pm
  • i think the price of fuel is way blown out now why isnt the bloody government doing their job and fixing the problem i bet they are enjoying driving around though on our tax money while the rest of us are struggling and cant afford to go driving to far as it is to costly come on government get off your bloody asses and the problems NOW or it is going to start getting real ugly and painful

    debbi d of murray bridge Posted on 19 June 2008 9:52pm
  • I have noticed a reduction in traffic. I drive 160 klms a day to and from work, it costs $28 a day now. No public transport here at 4 am so little choice but pay and drive with economy in mind.

    Chris Pitman Posted on 19 June 2008 9:31pm
  • I don't understand why the oil companies can charge whatever prices they want, whereas most other businesses have to show justafication for increasing charges! Why can't the oil companies do the same thing! This can also go for the financial instituations charging above the interest rates set by the RBA!

    John Hudson of Sydney Posted on 19 June 2008 8:54pm
  • People should not stop driving they should black ban a service station such as BP or shell to create a price war to bring down the price .

    Trevor of melbourne Posted on 19 June 2008 8:43pm
  • Must be nice to have public transport . Were i live we dont and the price of petrol is higher than city prices .

    chris macgrath of esperance w.a. Posted on 19 June 2008 8:25pm
  • I would love to commute - but getting from Prestons to MaQuarie Park by busses and trains would usurp so much of my time it really is not practical. I guess I have to buy the petrol.

    Carl Svendsen of 2170 Posted on 19 June 2008 8:20pm
  • I'd like to know WHY we are paying SO CALLED world parity prices for our fuel when there are countries paying as little as 5 cents per litre Venezuela 12 cents per litre Saudi Arabia Check this link out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_usage_and_pricing The pricing of fuel by oil companies and the Fed and State govt RIPPING us off with taxes on taxes is totally BULLS**T

    Tom Cross Posted on 19 June 2008 7:52pm
  • A few points... I am amazed at the amount of big cars that are still on the road...maybe they are company cars? Luckily I live quite close to work (but too far to walk, not that I would at 4 am). I am glad that I bought a 4 cyl Camry in Feb, as it was hars to come across good, used 4 cyl's then. I use 1/2 a tank a week, so I get away with only spending $50 on average. I feel sorry for those who have to commute a fair distance to their workplace.

    Sophia Chandler of Redlands Posted on 19 June 2008 7:00pm
  • I was on the Gateway at about 7am and counted over 40 cars (there were many more) with just one person inside and all were heading to the city from south. Is this necessary? Higher fuel prices may be a blessing in disguise.

    Bobby Luckan Posted on 19 June 2008 6:58pm
  • People in the bush are forgotten again,we have to use our cars or stay home dont go to work Australians dont get fed ,bad luck.

    Lance of country south aust Posted on 19 June 2008 6:56pm
  • Dumb people are ditching their cars for hot smelly and unreliable public transport while smart people are just ditching petrol for LPG!!!! I've noticed that Sydney roads are less congested for me while i drive my BIG comfortable E-gas Falcon Wagon.........that's the reward for not being a snob and switching to GAS! Sure the Territory is better looking than my MK11 Wagon but my Wagon is bigger and cheaper to run than a Yaris......WAKE UP PEOPLE gas rules!!!!

    Carl of sydney Posted on 19 June 2008 6:45pm
  • I won't rehash the previous comments re: diesel, LPG, unleaded pricing - it's a heart breaking situation. What I will point out is that people in the outer suburbs are subjected to rubbish public transport and often have no alternative but to drive to work, yet the affluent people living within spitting distance of the city insist on driving even though there is plentiful public transport or short walking/cycling distances. Perhaps we can improve public transport in the outer suburbs to make it a viable option or introduce a congestion tax for the inner suburbs to force some of our inner city drivers off the road and reduce traffic jams (and thereby fuel usage) for outer suburb commuters. At the end of the day, fuels are not going to get cheaper and we need to work out some system to help out the poorer amongst us who seem to be copping it left, right and centre.

    Al Fowler of Melbourne Posted on 19 June 2008 6:38pm
  • why is the price still going up when the middle east has said they will up the ammount of oil sold from 500,000 to 10,000,000 barrels a day, isnt the reason of fuel prices rises a lack of supply issue. surely this would have seen a drop in petrol prices, once people make the change to alternative energy supplies like electric cars they will never change back, so the prices better start falling other wise the oil co's wont have anyone to sell oil to.

    Anthony of Adelaide Posted on 19 June 2008 6:36pm
  • Does anybody notice that Wednesday is the last day for cheaper petrol when the following day, Thursday, is PENSION day? This hits the pensioners in the pocket far more than the everyday worker. We are the ones who do not get a sufficient payments rise, when pay rates go up! It doesn't matter who is in power in Canberra, we, the Pensioners of Australia, are the ones who continually suffer. !0 cents reduction in excise? I advocate a 20% REDUCTION of THE FUEL EXCISE!!!

    Bart Harrison of 5162 Posted on 19 June 2008 6:26pm
  • I live in a typical working-class suburb of Sydney. As long as the neighbours are using a large 4WD to ferry their lazy kids to the station or school, and dad's using a V8 or large 6 to get to work, petrol is too cheap. Australians have been treating petrol like Americans (or Arabs) for too long - as if it is some cheap, inexhaustible fuel. Wake up ! And I have an easy fix for the mad price fluctuations at service stations: legislate so that they are only permitted to raise prices on one particular day of the week - the same day for all of them, and only permitted a maximum increase of 2c/litre. They are free to drop the price by any amount they like, but only on that same day. If the wholesale price goes up by more than 2c/litre, they'll just have to keep increasing each week until they catch up. This would smooth out the current absurd situation we have now.

    Scott Posted on 19 June 2008 6:26pm
  • I have to agree with Tony, as more people are starting to use PT the morning run is getting a little better. Saves heaps when you go from 14L / 100 to 11L / 100 - easily makes up for the extra 20 cents a litre.

    Scotty of QLD Posted on 19 June 2008 6:18pm
  • Where I live, I have no choice but to use personal transport. The public transport system is utterly useless, and how would it cope with these pressures? It won't, and how to fix it? By making roads worse, and increase traffic congestion by decreasing the capacity of roads with huge bicycle lanes. Typical.

    omn1potent of melbourne Posted on 19 June 2008 5:47pm
  • Look on the positive side of this, which is less traffic congestion. If there is even less traffic at $2 a litre for petrol, I would prefer that. Easier traffic flow saves time and fuel.

    Tony Posted on 19 June 2008 2:04pm

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