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THE automobile industry has produced so many lemons in its time it should have been in the lemonade business.

We've heard recently of Toyotas with sticking accelerators, but what about the "haunted'' Audi 100 that could accelerate when you went to hit the brakes because the accelerator pedal was too close?

Some lemons are so acidic they are downright dangerous, such as the rear-engined 1960s Chevrolet Corvair that required the tyres to be pumped up so high they exploded.

Ford had issues in the late 1980s with the Ford Bronco and Explorer SUVs that did more rolling than the Stones and the Ford Pinto that not only burst into flames on rear impact, but also jammed the doors shut so the occupants were well done.

The capitalist world wasn't alone with its duds. The Trabant gave communism a bad name with its two-stroke smoker. If left alone in a field, livestock would eat its cotton-made body.

Here in Australia we made some of our own lemons and others we imported such as 1970s Lancias and Fiats that arrived pre-rusted.

There have been other cars that exploded, spontaneously combusted, fell apart, leaked oil, overheated or just never worked.

A mechanic friend of mine reeled off some of the biggest mechanical lemons that have made him a wealthy man, such as old Daewoos, the Holden Sunbird, Datsun 180B and the king of them all, early model Kia Carnivals.

Thankfully, standards have improved and there are very few lemons in the market today.

Over the past few years, car recalls in Australia have dropped from 79 in 2005 to 63 last year, with a peak of 91 in 2008. In terms of aesthetics there are still some eyesores (all SsangYongs) and some inane packages (BMW X6).

Here are 10 lemons I have driven:

  1. Datsun 120Y: Why indeed? It was underpowered, thank god, because the brakes were useless and the handling downright dangerous. At least when you crashed it was at slow speed. Unfortunately, it was very reliable, so there are still a few around.
    Leyland P76: It held a 44-gallon drum in the boot and the design reflected such practicality. The Aussie-made gas-guzzler arrived just as the oil crisis hit.
    Morris Marina: It should have come with a cardigan and a death warrant. Mechanically nasty, unsafe and unreliable.
    Ford AU Falcon: Ford spent $600 million to build it and immediately it failed as plain ugly. It also blew head gaskets, radiators and thermostats, yet there are still a lot of AU taxis limping around.
    1960-1990 Jaguars: Some nice models, but you needed two as one was always in the garage. You also needed to be a bank manager as they were expensive to fix. XJ12s were perhaps the worst.
    Holden Camira: Once a Wheels Car of the Year, but prone to rusting and overheating. Chewed oil and should have been booked for underage smoking.
    SAAB 900 Turbo:  One of the early turbocharged cars. Unhappily the turbo unit didn't outlive the tyres. Major engine problems and expensive to fix. Despite being Swedish, they rattled and squeaked.
    Rover Vitesse: Designed around a large-dimension, mid-capacity V8 engine, but they also fitted six-cylinder engines in the UK which were complete duds. They even considered a four-cylinder plant! The electrics were UK Lucas, known for good reason as the Prince of Darkness.
    Mitsubishi Magna: Early models fell apart before they needed their first refuelling. Early carby engines were known to have four-cylinder performance and six-cylinder economy.
    Hummer: America's insensitive answer to the first Gulf War. An itinerant in San Francisco actually spat on one I was driving. Although mechanically sound, a GM PR disaster.

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  • What about Holdens supposed 4x4 adventura wagon and dual cab things? , or great walls x240 ..

    j tilgals of sunshine coast Posted on 10 February 2014 3:17pm
  • I agree maybe he drove a 30 year old 120y with rooted suspension and brakes.. I have one as a club car today clearly only drive a bad one never OWNED a good one. I actually owned a marina coupe many years ago... cheap upgrade on the shock absorbers and it handled well it never ever broke down probably still running today.... must maligned for no reason sold as a cheap run about and did that very well. P76 never owned one but drove a few and although the finish wasnt so hot a good one drove better than an equivalent falcon or holden of the era, Jags absolutely beautiful to drive great finish and simply luxurious yes had there faults but were minor and even today parts arent so expensive if you know where to buy them, like any thing you buy from the dealer regardless of brand then its expensive I wish I never sold my xj6 s2. there are many worse cars top ten? not even close.... this guy is clearly not a driver!!!

    kb of NZ Posted on 05 February 2014 6:48pm
  • THose AU Falcons are still going long after the equivalent holden/korean/japanese/euro cars

    redlaser of BERWICK Posted on 31 December 2013 11:10am
  • Bloody idiot, the 120Y had great brakes for it's size, especially when the later models got a booster. and I'm not sure where he got underpowered from? underpowered compared to what? it's a 1.2L carby engine... it's not a bloody ferrari.

    Alex of Australia Posted on 21 November 2013 2:17pm
  • writer is clueless about jags. 80's xj6 xj12 were incredibly durable cars if taken care were the sixities Mark II"s and S. Not to mention they were incredible to drive. And these comments that come from a country that thinks falcon's and monaro's are beautiful cars....

    d. French of Adelaide Posted on 03 October 2013 4:25am
  • I had a first model manual Camira that did huge amounts of high speed country work (over 250k) and never had a problem with it. Maybe they were not good city cars. The 3rd model was a great car, but by then their reputation was ruined.

    Chris McDonnell of Noosa Heads Posted on 30 September 2013 8:06pm
  • You sir are simply incorrect. I have owned a few of the cars that you have on this non-sensical list of cars. Because you personally are not a fan of a particular brand or model has no bearing on a cars "lemon" status. I have taken 3 Saab 900 turbos (all prior to 1986 models) to over 300k miles. Quirky, yes, lemons, not even close. Saab revolutionized turbos, safety and passenger comfort. You're just a knuckle head and I'm wasting my time even writing this.

    Rob Tames of Scottsdale Arizona Posted on 12 August 2013 6:23am
  • I have owned a 1962 Jaguer Mk2 3.8 for 43 years. It has covered 280000 miles with utter reliability.

    Mike Bremner of Perth W.A. Posted on 24 July 2013 7:33pm
  • It is clearly that who ever put the Datsun (nissan) 120y on this list must have never had any experience with it. Living on 960m high mountain and going up and down to the beach, with all the curves and downhills for year, I could never feel that it is unsafe. If you are going downhill on neutral, any car could be dangerous. When you spin the 120Y, the centre of gravity is so central that makes it do the correction on it is own mile easier that any other car even when it was powered with 2.0L bluebird engine and nissan pick up diff. It is soo unfair to make such statement. Owners of 120Y never even want to sell them and they kept them even if they have bought other nicer cars because they appreciate what they are. they are some of the most simple yet the best and most reliable card man kind has ever made. their thin tires makes them good on surface must and light snow. shame that they dont have 5th gear. a little kid could fix anything on that car and no need for a pro mechanic. I absolutely think that they should go away from the above list as you must do more research on that before putting such info up to the public

    MAC Posted on 18 June 2013 9:48am
  • One has to clearly define 'lemon.' A car which has many things wrong, has a driver who neglectfully fails to check the oil level, and still keeps going is not a lemon. But a car which refuses to move for the slightest of problems, is a lemon. You know the type, there is a slight glitch with the ECU and the car completely shuts down, you call road side assistance and they can't help, you have it towed to a garage, and they spend a day over it and can't diagnose it, you have to take it to a diagnostic specialist, and after about 10 days , and a lot of money, they tell you what's wrong. Of course, they haven't fixed it yet, they are just giving you the bad news. Now that is a lemon!

    Tony Nemaric of Melbourne Posted on 11 June 2013 4:47pm
  • The 120 y is a legend. Mum had one and even I as an 18 year old could not break it. Replace it on the list with a VS Commodore from Suttons.

    John of Wahroonga Posted on 02 April 2013 8:49pm
  • My mum had a 120y and it gave us long, honourable and reliable service. I don't know how it can possible top this list

    Gary of Perth Posted on 04 March 2013 3:41pm
  • I would like to know where these some of these riotous statistics came from....maybe someone has been seriously misled...... tRacy Datsport International

    tRacy Datsport of Lonsdale, South Australia Posted on 27 February 2013 3:11pm
  • 1978 120Y is cheap to run and 35 yrs later i'm driving a full auto with original everything -right down to the bickie wheels and the leaky petrol cap.Still getting good mileage and speed 140km-with me and the mrs(lol)sure its a bit rough now-but im only 8 years older than it and i'm not sure who's in the best condition!i kid you not.Even dragged off a A15 with twin carbs -but slo and handles like a wheel barrow-good heater.

    ghetto retro datto of new zealand Posted on 23 February 2013 10:47pm
  • I agree with L-J. You only have took look at the period road tests of the cars in question to know that a lot of what is said is not true. Contemporary testers were happy with the 120Y's handling and front disc brakes. Speak to owners who owned the cars from new to get the true story. For example, the P76's problems were rust (a neighbour owned a green one from new - it rusted in the bootlid and doors, he didn't tow a boat, and we lived nowhere near the water) and parts availability. If the 120Y were as bad as quoted they would never have sold by the truckload. Now if Joe Kenwright had said it, that would be a different matter.

    John Roberts Posted on 06 December 2012 12:10am
  • the au xr8 is a nice looking version. but nether the less looks have nothing to do with a car being a lemon. eb had the issues not au newb... datsons were reliable. if it broke down any could fix it. magnas were reliable to. but crap turning circle. even the misti trucks had the same issue. that i drove. Would never buy a misty. Oh didnt they also say sorry for making dodgy cars back in the 90's? of goldy Posted on 17 October 2012 9:25pm
  • Who cares what some motoring journalist opines. We all know motoring journalist get paid by the various car companies to rubbish certain brands and praise others. When I want a genuinely honest opinion or assessment about a car, a motoring journalist wouldn't be the first person, I'd be asking - in fact they'd be the last on my list!!

    L-J Posted on 18 September 2012 1:31pm
  • Holden commdore current

    Skiz Posted on 09 August 2012 7:41am
  • Spot on.

    Datsun Dan Posted on 08 August 2012 8:09pm
  • i own a 2000 au fairmont giah with 235k on clock. had it 7 months now. not a problem with it. best sedan i ever had. shure the base model forte was lame with no extras. i have no intention of selling my fairmont.

    john of adelaide Posted on 07 July 2012 4:27am
  • jags! id still love one, au falcon! my first ford 350000+ km still going strong, only ever had to change discs, pads and alternator. its an au1, its ugly, and ive flogged the hell out of it, would buy another one tomorrow and the fact they are so cheap i might just do that. you might be confused with the ea!

    andrew of tamworth Posted on 09 May 2012 1:21am
  • Mark Hinchcliffe just seemed to pluck the cars from now where. Camira and Magna yes but the others. I think Mark needs to move on and retire or else he keeps looking like a goose.

    sab plat of sydney Posted on 07 March 2012 4:18pm
  • Owned an AU Falcon, did a little more than 200,000klm, not a single warranty claim. Not aware of the engine issues your talk about as with others I know who have had them. The AU engine is considered very reliable retrofit to earlier falcons also. To put and AU in the list above a Camira? Credibility shot right there.....You've got to be kidding.

    Mark Lowe of Melbourne Posted on 30 January 2012 8:47am
  • I feel the SAAB 900 Turbo review is very unfair. It is well to note AAB were the pioneers of Tubos as efficiency improvers in petrol vehicles and only the early Garrett turbos used did not have water cooled bearings so if not cooled by timed idling cool down pursuant to factory instruction or having use of wrong grade oils or failure to change oil were prone to oil coking in the turbo bearings. This is essentially a user problem . Owners of high performance cars like these have to expect more maintenance issues and some compromises in driveability. Later, water cooled turbos are however quite reliable and properly serviced the engines are otherwise bulletproof with chain driven crankshafts not needing expensive timing belt changes like many other makes. A US 900i clocked up well over 1 milllion miles on original engine and transmission and is in a museum there.

    Jeanette Flint of Hurstbridge Posted on 21 January 2012 11:09pm
  • The AU utes weren't a flop. Why doesnt anyone mention that? They were a very versitle ute at the time and flogged Holden ute sales during the time the AU was made even with holdens new 5.7Litre V8 at the time. They were very popular I dare anyone too reseach this issue and prove me wrong.

    mick Posted on 09 January 2012 12:20am
  • These reviews are so subjective - However some cars have been rather unfairly maligned Datsun 120Y: How this handle any worse than the 808 or Corolla at the time? Super reliable and economical to run and service. Can't agree Leyland P76: Economy of both the 6 and the V8 markedly better than any of the big three. Morris Marina: Granted Ford AU Falcon: Granted Although I admire Ford for trying to differentiate on the styling front 1960-1990 Jaguars:Granted Holden Camira: It didn't become the world's most popular car because it was garbage. Floor-plan seen in Alfas, Saab , Pontiacs, Opels, Vauxhalls. Some plumbing problems caused probs in Aus but otherwise a brilliant car. SAAB 900 Turbo: Most people who owned this loved it (I know some) - how does that make it a lemon? Rover Vitesse: Beautiful looking car with a couple of warts Mitsubishi Magna: Leaps and bounds ahead of XF and VL at the time of its release. Hummer: Granted

    Denis R of Sydeny Posted on 07 January 2012 8:34pm
  • If there was a top 10 worst car reviews.. this would be number 1 Well done Mark (insert sarcasm)

    Joe BLo of QLD Posted on 28 December 2011 9:16pm
  • Couldn't agree more about in relation to the HQ, despite being the biggest selling Holden, it's features what you would've expected on a late '50s car. The wrong Falcon is on the list, the AU certainly meets the qualifications for its ugliness, but the XC was the equivalent to the HQ Holden, 10 years behind its time! Lastly where are all the Toyota's? If boring & ugly is a qualification, I think I could justifiably fill this list with early............ & late model Corolla's, Corona's & Camry's. Add Echo's & when will we finally recognise that the Electric Car is a just a political stunt. Add the Prius, the worst of them all!

    Heath Raymond of Adelaide Posted on 27 November 2011 10:23pm
  • Just bought an AU 2001 XR8 with only 98,000 on the clock. love the car, I do lots of country driving and let me tell you she purrs and sticks to the road like super glue. I sold a 1995 Ford LTD, it did lots of country miles too but not as good as the XR8 Au 2001. By the way it is my 18th Ford since i was 17 and now I am 57. I think i know a little about by them now and I do my own repairs. The AU XR8 is good. Look out for the bargains.

    Jim Jimbo Dougan of Bassendean WA Posted on 26 November 2011 11:28am
  • Didn't the the Magna win wheels car of the year??

    mark of perth Posted on 29 October 2011 11:11pm
  • Thanks for putting the Datsun 120Y on the top 10 worst cars ... now I can't get one!

    John Morrison of WA Posted on 24 October 2011 8:36pm
  • Being a lemon is only one factor that could contribute to a car featuring a in a list of the worst cars. Clearly, the 120Y was not a lemon, but it was boring, slow and had marginal brakes and handling. I'm not sure it would make my list of the 10 worst cars though. One that would, and doesn't seem to have been mentioned in the responses so far, was the Holden HQ Belmont. It completely escapes me how anyone in Australia thought it acceptable for a car in 1972 to have non-assisted drum brakes all 'round, 3 on the tree, an appallingly flat and slippery bench seat and god-awful handling. I notice several comments suggesting Lada, specifically the Niva, should be in the list. However I have one of the last Nivas brought into the country and it's been a gem. It now has 200,000km on the clock, 80,000 of which are mine, and it has never left me stranded. Sure, things have worn out, as you would expect with any car, but they've always given plenty of notice. It's pretty basic, agricultural even, but excellent off-road and a far more successful design than the HQ Belmont.

    Smartypharts of Melbourne Posted on 23 October 2011 10:42pm
  • Obviously knows nothing about AU's ... reliable as anything, looks are debatable, XR Series look good. Just seems like this guy is a tool and doesn't know much about cars. How about the Pintara? That was a piece of crap!

    Wanderlai silva of Octagon Posted on 17 October 2011 10:35pm
  • Benchmark #1 Lemon cars VOLVO XC90.

    JAIME SERRA Posted on 11 August 2011 12:31pm
  • I'm a mechanic and if you ask me all falcons were shit after the xc all the way up to the ba all imbetween suffered the same head gasket problem. they tried fixing it in the au by using a different head gasket material. this only delayded the inevitable

    Daniel Posted on 06 August 2011 7:33pm
  • He wasn't referring to the TR. I'd be confident it was an early TM 2.6 auto in his sights. Everything TN and later had a great reputation.

    Mike Williams of Melbourne Posted on 16 May 2011 5:17pm
  • I think the early 80's commodore(vb,vc) deseve a spot on the top 10 list.

    jimy jim jim Posted on 13 May 2011 3:14am
  • Who wrote that shit about au fords own two of them ,reliable solid vehicles Check your facts they are not known for bowing head gaskets : holden loving wanker

    wayne of here Posted on 09 May 2011 8:16pm
  • I had a TR Magna that went to the crushers with 802,000 km on the clock, and only after it had been T-boned, ironically it's only major collision, by a runaway truck (nobody hurt, which was good) when parked. Reliability..well it was on it's 4th Astron 2.6 as 200,000km was about as good as I could ever get from one and I drove sensibly and serviced the car properly and most of the motors used oil though two of them were second-hand and had only minor reconditioning, if any at all so the shorter lifespans are probably understandable. The auto trans was the original, never missed a beat though it did have the apparently typical vibration at idle from new. Towards the end there were all sorts of electrical and high-mileage mechanical gremlins cropping up, but it had lived it's life mostly as a country car in a dusty area. Never re-charged the air con and it was fine the day I got rid of it (I did use it often though). Certainly not a sexy car, nor a great performer but fairly good on juice. I would not get anther, but that car owed me absolutely nothing.

    Shebs Posted on 03 April 2011 2:19am
  • It sh*ts me that apparently if it's not a Ford or Holden, that it's not a car worth buying ... the Magna V6 and 380 are both better cars than that of Holden and Ford of the same year ... Drive one and compare it!

    luke of melbourne Posted on 21 March 2011 2:57pm
  • You talk of the Saab 900 as a lemon? The whole MY11 range will be another lemon in Australia. I went to the dealer to trade my MY08 9-3 Aero. They offered me $12K for an $80k car. I was hoping to to stay with the brand now that it has left GM. It has left a sour taste in my mouth. After 4 Saab`s. I won`t be fooled into buying another one.

    Ex-Saab owner of Sydney Posted on 02 March 2011 3:41pm
  • Wow, I cant believe the crap i was just reading I hope you are no older than 13. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

    Do some research! Posted on 16 February 2011 9:32am
  • You?re a down right idiot, if you think that the Datsun 120Y is the worst. As a proud Datsun 120Y owner I would have to say that you literally do not know anything about what you are talking about. The things you write after why they are the worst are just opinions. The Datsun 120Y was not made to be thrashed but to be cruised in, take it slow, enjoyed. You know nothing!

    DATO_DION Posted on 04 February 2011 3:00am
  • Mark Hinchliffe please do some research before writing articles. AU Falcons didn't blow head-gaskets or radiators. Most likely confused with the EA model (ten years apart) Explain to me how does a thermostat blow up? You are vague about Magnas 'early models' and calling a Hummer a lemon because it's 'insensitive' is mindless.

    XTURBO of sydney Posted on 23 January 2011 4:03am
  • I'm aware of the problems that affected the TM series Magna. Cracked heads and automatic transmission issues weren't unheard of in that series. It was a Rev. A though, and by the TN/TP these issues were resolved. The Magna continued to be a success, setting benchmarks for their reliability right up until their replacement in 2005. The article would have you believe the entire line were duds, which isn't the case. I've had 3 Magnas, cycled through from a 1991 to a 1993 and now a 1997 mostly for the sake of upgrading, and each one has been excellent. The 1997 still puts a smile on my face every time (but a 3.5L V6 will do that).

    Michael of Adelaide Posted on 06 January 2011 8:33am
  • as a retired dealer some of the worst cars in my opinion. renault fuigo, bmw x5 , daewoo espero, jeep, mitsubiihi magna, porsche 940, mercedes m4wd, ford cortina, holden camira, holden gemini, lets not foreget the lada,

    denis mulheron of goldcoast Posted on 02 January 2011 11:27am
  • I went over 120000 k (from 210000-330000) without servicing my au just topping up fluids and the only problems I had were a couple of fuses and an electric window switch.

    Tom of Brisbane Posted on 02 January 2011 3:02am
  • I owed a AU Falcon from new and never had problems with it. Issues can be found in many cars and you buy. Trouble is that Australian drivers are conservative and the AU design was to far advance in looks. This list is one man?s thoughts on what he drove. Everyone is different is what they like in a car.

    Matt out west of Perth Posted on 13 December 2010 1:06pm
  • I had a Nissan Tiida for four years which was a pile of crap and hard to believe it is from the same company that gave us the 350 and 370z AND the Patrol.I have since traded down to a Nissan Micra and much better.

    franz chong of adelaide Posted on 12 December 2010 11:22pm
  • Seriously the AU Falcon? They never had head gasket problems (that was EF and EL), they run the same radiator as any other Falcon and how on earth do you blow a thermostat? All lies. I can agree that the early model stock Falcons were ugly, but they also had the TS50 & TE50, series 2 XR8 Rebel & Series 3 XR8's, pursuit utes etc that are all good looking and powerful muscle cars. The AU should be removed from the top 10 worst cars.

    Joe Blow of QLD Posted on 08 December 2010 8:36pm
  • Don't ever buy a Ford Transit. They are the biggest bombs of cars on the market. I don't know how they can make them. I have a friend who is a mechanic, if anyone knows how to fix it cheaply please let me know. I have blown a head gasket.

    dave elmo of Gold coast Posted on 02 November 2010 1:51pm
  • Range Rovers up till the current model weren't reliable straight out the showroom door. 120Y, I wasn't allowed one as a first car, just too ugly. Got an unkillable AU falcon (at least it is the better looking Fairmont variant).

    James of Annandale Posted on 29 October 2010 10:48pm
  • I bought a brand new Morris Marina; every time you hit a bump, the middle of the dashboard vibrated up and down a couple of centimetres. I tried putting radial tyres on it, but the whole car shook and vibrated and nothing could be done, so I went back to the cross-ply tyres it came with. OTOH, that car brought my family back from Darwin to Sydney safely and without incident...

    Mike of Blue Mountains Posted on 10 October 2010 2:58pm
  • The 120Y was a great car, just slow, that's all. Apart from that, you can't kill them. The Falcon AU on the other hand was an ugly failure, even if they did keep going.

    Graham of Canberra Posted on 10 October 2010 7:19am
  • Yeah it's unusual for there to be no redeeming features in any car; 120Ys and AU Falcons have both proved to be ugly yet unkillable, so they're not really lemons. The P76 was ugly and fell apart, but had class-leading performance, economy and handling and was the first Aussie-built car with a bonded screen, just like every single modern car. Pity they didn't have the process correct and they popped out! But without attempts at progress, nothing changes. My friend's Corvair is impeccably assembled and 100% perfect, is 45 years old and has not been restored. It hasn't killed him yet and is extremely attractive, but if he does crash it he will probably die horribly. Bill Tuckey said the Isuzu Bellett GT1600 tried to kill him twice; mine's tried to kill me several times, but it's 42 years old and needs a complete resto, so mine's probably a lemon, but I know of 20 more that aren't. In fact, one person's lemon is another person's lime (or whatever), because nothing really quite sucks that hard. Although, I just spoke to an American who bought a Lincoln Mark 8. $45k new, $6k offered at trade 3 years later, broken down many times. Perhaps he found the lemon after all.

    Dave Carey of Happy Valley, SA Posted on 24 September 2010 2:47pm
  • Ah, but the 120Y is actually cool. And you can't kill them, they go forever, meaning that they kinda aren't a lemon. I'm willing to bet that diabolical handing you mentioned was due to old shocks or something stupid like that. Actually, any Datsun is cool, and as long as you don't buy a neglected one they are quite good, even the 200B. OK, I may be very biased (I daily drive a Bluebird and rally a Stanza) but you know I'm right... By your reasoning, though, some of the best cars out there are lemons - the Mini with the dizzy placement, any Lancia (early version Betas were rusty lemons, later Betas and other models weren't), etc. If you ask me, you forgot the Ford Escort. My mum had one for her 1st car and it was constantly breaking down right from the showroom floor. Even fully rebuilt rally versions generally only last 30km before they crap themselves... raspberry Still, they can be good cars, and I do like them. But really, not many cars are lemons from the factory. Mainly it's just idiots that trash and neglect their car then complain and whine about how it's a POS because it broke.

    Nate of Coffs Harbour Posted on 22 September 2010 3:00am
  • Ford Cortina, the last box shaped model with the 4.1L 6cyl engine, my father had one as a company car that broke down 18 times in 18 months. Gaskets, engine problems, gearbox self destruction, the list was endless. Even the mechanic said he had never seen a worse built new car

    Matthew of wollongong Posted on 20 September 2010 9:48am
  • My AU has 189000km still runs fine!! have known a few ppl now with AUs around the 400000km still running well. best car i have ever owned!I've had it 5 years, majority of driving is highway but does see city driving. why do you think there is heaps of AU's still "limping around"? my falcon doesn't use a drop of oil or water. still on the original radiator and hasn't done a head yet. If anything the AU Falcon 6 cylinder would be one of the most reliable cars going at the moment. maybe that's why the car that was such a "flop" is still getting around in high numbers. It is also the reason i intend too keep it for another 5 years. I bet the writer off this story has never owned any of the cars mentioned. I mean the comment about the Datsun 120 Y being unfortunately reliable is kinda a contradiction don't you think??? I'd rather a car that ran well then some puss bucket car that " apparently handled well and well liked by the masses" that left me stranded on the side of the highway!!!

    mick of where all the so-called award winning cars rust!! Posted on 19 September 2010 1:40am
  • I have owned 27 Holdens, I have no intentions of buying my 28th Holden. Let's say, that's how I learned how to fix cars.

    Brian Barker of Swan Hill Posted on 17 September 2010 8:56pm
  • Surprised the (Holden) Calibra didn't make the list. When I bought my wifes (SH) with 15000km on the clock about 10 years ago I was a skeptic but as long as you dont expect country road bashing its still a delight and has had no more dramas than one would expect with an imported car that has started its life in sub zero and crossed half a dozen climate changes getting here.

    Mike Wallace of Brisbane Posted on 16 September 2010 10:29pm
  • Was the writer (Mark Hinchcliffe?) overwhelmed by the number of recalls of various commodores? So many that the writer could not nominate one model Holden as each was as bad as the other. Not too many commodore taxis running about. Falcons can run up to 1,000,000 km economically and reliably.

    Laurie Posted on 16 September 2010 1:32pm
  • I think I drove the only Camira that never rusted, cost nothing to run and we tried to kill it - but never did... Over 250,000 km's.

    Kerstin Posted on 16 September 2010 11:33am
  • Nothing wrong with the AU bar looks. However you did miss one standout Ford dud... the EA Falcon. Everything that could go wrong with them went wrong....

    Paul Posted on 16 September 2010 9:46am
  • This website is nothing but a Ford bashing website... what about the Holden dunnydore lemons? What a joke. I am going to stay on Carsguide website no more. It is A JOKE!

    Why do you want to know Posted on 16 September 2010 8:36am
  • Hey Nicki, get over yourself. You might want to have another read as many other makes got bagged as well, so don't think it is just Fords that aren't liked... even though they are crap! LOL.

    Paul Carter of Morphett Vale Posted on 16 September 2010 6:36am
  • Nothing wrong with the Datsun 120Y? I don't understand.

    Rob Heering of aus Posted on 15 September 2010 8:25pm
  • Have owned many Magnas / Veradas over the years since they took over from the Sigma; had one of most models through to 2001 then purchased Lancers. Never had any engine or transmission issues and the 2.6ltr in the TM, TN, &TP; gave us good economy for a large 4 cylinder in a fairly heavy body. I don't have a heavy right foot though which is the secret to good driving.

    Les of Melbourne Posted on 15 September 2010 7:18pm
  • Add the Gemini, any model they were ugly, noisy and yes just like the Camira they were oil burners too! Seriously to consider the AU, how many hundred thousand did Ford sell? How many have done over half a million kms? Yes well that is why the Taxi companies loved them as they were such a good car for their day

    Au Ford Lover of Melbourne Posted on 15 September 2010 5:03pm
  • I had a 2001 Kia Carnival from new, ours never blew the head gasket as they were prone to do, but we had an electrical and fuel problems that they couldn't or wouldn't fix, hence it spent a lot of time in the Kia workshop, we managed to get it to 100,000 kms but traded it on a 97 Pajero which was a good move as only a couple of months later saw the Kia parked on the side of the freeway with bonnet up and I had a little giggle to myself, and a little later spoke to the female owner at a shop carpark and she is still having the same problems i was having, put me off Kias for life

    malcolm mcrae of manjimup wa Posted on 15 September 2010 4:39pm
  • AU Falcon, you serious! Only thing is the early series did look a little ugly. You sure you drove it or are you just following the theme of this website of Ford bashing whenever you can.

    Nicki Posted on 15 September 2010 3:16pm
  • Strongly disagree with the lemon tag being applied to the Magna. They were an excellent vehicle developed on a budget that was underappreciated by the Australian public. The TE-onwards models in particular were streets ahead of the competition in design, quality and refinement. I also strongly disagree with your view of the AU Falcon. As previously said, the problems you listed affected the prior E series. Controversial looks aside, I prefer it over the BA series which despite it's more acceptable exterior design, took a dive in terms of interior quality, presentation and driving position.

    Michael35 of NSW Posted on 15 September 2010 12:09pm
  • AU Falcon was ugly....a fact shared by a majority of the motoring community. XR6 & 8 barely passable but a Ford Taurus is the ugliest (Looks like a turd with wheels and mirrors). As mentioned already overheating problems were predominantly in the E models. Hence the AU Twin thermos used by many. AU astronomical klm ex cabs prove reliability. Magna (Car of the year 1985), Camira (Car of the year 1982) and P76 (1973) were excellent cars when new as are most. Give current cars the same amount of time and lets see how they fare. I'm surprised the Mitsubishi Sigma didn't get a look in based on the limited facts this article is supported by. They were a great car in their time but buckets now. All faults seem to be based more on now and not then facts. To me a lemon is primarily based on mechanical unreliability in its hey day (Whilst under warranty) then secondly by the bell's and whistles it was fitted with. Lack of servicing and general care will groom any car to be a future lemon. Note * As part of work at times I drive cars hard. The AU were reliable but had the worst brakes of any work car I have driven to date.

    Will Allan of Brisbane Posted on 15 September 2010 12:03pm
  • I was about to fire up about the poor little Datsun, but you are spot on in it's description!! Top Lemons I have owned: 04 Citroen Xsara VTS - It chewed on fuel, engine mounts & gearboxes but was wonderful for the brief days everything was working. Jeeps - american build (*cough) quality, poor earthing on the electrics, gutless engine, poor fuel economy.

    Stephen Mason of Mulgoa Posted on 15 September 2010 11:12am
  • I disagree with your opinion of the AU falcon. The faults you have listed are found on E series Falcons prior to this model. The AU was a class leader featuring many innovations not found on competing models. The intech feature which allowed the engine to run without coolant in the event of a hose failure is just one. The AU was a quality vehicle which was let down by poor styling and marketing, A futura grill on early fortes would have made all the difference.

    scott comine of melbourne Posted on 15 September 2010 5:05am
  • Let?s talk about this list. Are we comparing to today?s standards or that they were when released? You can't put a Datsun 180Y or Morris Marina an AU Falcon. Speaking of the Falcon, the problems listed weren't really problems with the AU, more issues with many of the E series prior, and sure it?s ugly compared to what's here today, but it wasn't bad when released. 1960-1990 Jaguars, how many cars did Jaguar make? Humour me and work it out, you will find in thirty years of production they made more than one model. Be more specific if it's going to be worthy of a top 10 listing. Now the Camira, indeed it wasn't Holden's brightest moment, but surely being car of the year stood for something? They've made worse cars. And if you?re mentioning Holden, why not one of the many Commodores which also won car of the year, and also managed to fall apart like the buckets of bolts they were? The Magna. Build quality was superb right from the beginning compared to the competition, and fuel economy wasn?t bad in its day, nor was power. It was the car which revolutionised the family car market, give credit where it?s due. This topic needs more research with proper factual results.

    Steve of Victoria Posted on 15 September 2010 12:48am
  • Had a AU 2 Falcon, one of the best cars I have owned, it was very reliable too. I just cannot understand how it could be classed as a lemon, what about cars like the Sunbird, spent most of it's life in the garage, the VK Commodore, that black motor with a few K's on it was a real nightmare.

    John of Ipswich Posted on 15 September 2010 12:11am
  • I have a 2001 AU2 XR8 sedan... it's the biggest bag of CRAP that I've ever owned!

    Gazza Marayong of Marayong (SYDNEY) Posted on 14 September 2010 11:49pm
  • The Aussie Magnas were awful. Check the paintwork of '92 models (if there's any paint left on them...)! Contrast that with the NZ models. You'd think that they were totally different cars. Sad!

    Paul of WA Posted on 14 September 2010 11:11pm
  • Oh dear the old fallacy that Jaguars are unreliable and expensive to maintain. You really should do some research. I owned a SER2 XJ6 for 13 years from 230,000kms to 470,000kms and until the last 10,000ks, it was reliable and cost me very little to run. I still see many '70's Jags on the road. It is true that the 60s cars did tend to overheat in Aus because people didn't put the proper coolant in them, and the XJ12s were fragile, but from the XJ6 on they really were superb cars, if maintained. They used standard parts available from normal parts suppliers at very reasonable prices. I remember myself and 2 fellow workers having to fix brake master cylinders at one stage, and my Jag 420C cost less to fix than a Chrysler Regal and a Mitsubishi Sigma at the time. Some mechanics do try and take advantage, but that's not the car's fault. The later models are better, but that's true of all car makes.

    Graeme of Manly West Posted on 14 September 2010 11:01pm
  • The early Commodores VC - VH scored the Sunbird 'misfire' engine for a while. I remember the ads quoting only the 0-60km/h acceleration time. The 0-100 would have probably been too embarrassing. And somehow it made it's way into the Toyota Corona too.

    Richard of Melbourne Posted on 14 September 2010 10:56pm
  • 120Ys fitted a slot in the market, and as such, did a good job. I'm surprised that the 200B wasn't on the list - mine had rust cut out at about 18 months old, the motor was had it at 60,000km. We had a Magna - first model wagon (with carb), and it was a great car - much better economy than a Falcon/Commodore of the time.

    Alan of Logan Posted on 14 September 2010 10:32pm
  • Add the Gemini, any model they were ugly, noisy and yes just like the Camira they were oil burners too! Seriously to consider the AU, how many hundred thousand did Ford sell? How many have done over half a million kms? Yes well that is why the Taxi companies loved them as they were such a good car for their day.

    Au Ford Lover of Melbourne Posted on 14 September 2010 10:11pm
  • Lightburn Zeta... This is from a company that made washing machines. Need I say more?

    Joseph Peter Powell of Bexley North N.S.W Posted on 14 September 2010 9:02pm
  • If the AU was such a dud - the taxis would have deserted it. There are other large cars around. But they didnt. The AU was a much better car than it was ever given credit for. Journos whinged about how the rear suspesion acted when the car was pressed during hard cornering. Guess what - only journos noticed this. People who bought the car dont drive this way - it would be downright irresponsible on a public road. It was the ultimate case of journos making something out of nothing.

    Paul of warwick Posted on 14 September 2010 8:27pm
  • My kids had 180b's as paddock bombs. They were indestructible! And every time I took the family to a demolition derby, the last car standing every time was the mighty 120Y. They may have been steaming badly, and only a metre long, but they were still running.

    Gil Trease Posted on 14 September 2010 8:23pm
  • I owned a 73 Marina coupe with a 1500 and had no trouble with it at all. I also owned an 88 Camira with the fantastic 2 litre donk and it was bloody good.

    Richard McCasker of Ingham Qld Posted on 14 September 2010 8:12pm
  • I have an AU Falcon. Get rid of the Dunlop tyres that it came with and it's like getting a new car again. It is a quiet comfortable car with no problems so far. Still returns 13 kilometers to the litre [highway]. 175,000 klms and 10 years old. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Ever driven a P78 V8? Long way ahead of the local offerings at the time.

    Ken English Posted on 14 September 2010 7:56pm
  • That's strange... as kids my old man swore by the 120Y and 180B and he was a mechanic by trade, we never had any issues with either.

    Damien of Cairns Posted on 14 September 2010 7:50pm
  • If you're going to show pictures of the cars that were the worst according to the article, it would do it more justice to show the right ones. For eg. the Jaguar shown was under the US Ford design team and had all it's fatalistic flaws ironed out. The XJ 40 would've been better before Ford got hold of them tempermental and consistant electrical and a/c failure's. The Magna TD, I think it is was their best model. The first ones that were the Sigma in Japan and had the Astron 2 motor were awful and the Elite's stereo controlls either fell out or squeked so much the owners had it taken out. The Saab was the late 80's early 90's one where they had turbo problems not to mention the steering column would fall into your lap - the one you have up is the one built under the leadership of GM in Detroit and is a far better car. As for the Trabant, it isn't as bad as most motor journalists make out, it beat most cars in the elk run in Sweden. EH Holdens after a run out bush would twist so much that the journalists that tested them could not get the doors open on it and had to climb out the windows. As for the 120Y, I would like to say look at what is sitting on... its discs beside it. " Cough" Commodore!

    A Thomas of Melbourne. Posted on 14 September 2010 7:21pm
  • Yes, all SsanyYong's have been hit with the ugly stick, the worst case being the Stavic. Can anyone in their right mind imagine someone walking into a showroom and actually liking the looks of the Stavic enough to want to buy one? And yet, from time to time, I see one driven by. Simply amazing. They must give them away in cornflakes boxes... or something! Years ago I was so fortunate to decide against buying a Kia Carnival. When I read recently that about 50% had engine failure in the first 3 years, I counted my blessings! And guess who supplied Kia with the engines? Rover! Why am I not surprised?

    Harry Bolman of Gold Coast Posted on 14 September 2010 7:12pm
  • The 4 cylinder Commodore was the worst car I've ever driven. I drove a work one up the Western highway once and went to pass another car, my car "kicked down" a gear and I lost ground! Bloody hell! I didn't try that trick again.

    Rodney of Melbourne Posted on 14 September 2010 6:56pm
  • I have a 78 Datsun 120Y, still in show room condition with 10450kms on it. Doesnt miss a beat and starts and drives perfectly. Absolutely nothing wrong with these cars. Brakes can be upgraded as well as the suspension thanks to the Japanese imported Turbo coupes etc. so at the end of the day excluding the 2dr 120y hatch cuz its ugly ass..Ii love my 120y.

    Rodney Jones Posted on 14 September 2010 5:27pm
  • A well rounded list. Unfortunately the engine from the original Camira is still around in a more modern guise today. Suzuki Mighty Boy is the only vehicle I could suggest to knock one out. I also think the Sunbird should be replaced with any Holden unfortunate enough to be equipped with the Starfire four cylinder (aka Missfire, Backfire). To this day I still scratch my head and wonder how Holden sold the Starfire to Toyota in the belief it was actually an engine.

    KB Zenvo of Sydney Posted on 14 September 2010 4:45pm
  • Interesting that there are 180B's on Carsales selling for over $5,000. Must have a bit of a cult following!!

    Andrew of Victoria Posted on 14 September 2010 4:20pm
  • Oh oh, looks like Carsguide has upset the '120Y lobby'. I am sure the '120Y lobby' would agree that rust and dents and never co existed so well.

    Dave S Posted on 14 September 2010 4:16pm
  • Anything with a Datsun/Nissan badge are and were the worst things ever to be put on our roads.

    jeff whalan of gold coast Posted on 14 September 2010 4:00pm
  • My 10 lemons datsun 120y,180b,200sx,bluebird ss,cortina 2litre,barina,lancer,commodore,swift,subaru.

    andrew of adelaide Posted on 14 September 2010 3:48pm
  • Bahahahahahaha Datsun 120y yes why why build it lol, any Datsun rust buckets.These cars were very cheaply made and an accident waiting to happen. Holden Kingswood any day or a Ford Falcon, if had to go Japanese back then Toyota mark 2 Corona v6 or a Toyota Crown Saloon 4s back then were nasty if they were not English or German.

    andrew of adelaide Posted on 14 September 2010 3:40pm
  • You are forgetting the Ford Cortina,rust bucket is not the word and also the most popular cars seen on the expressways......broken down that is.

    The Sword of Panania Posted on 14 September 2010 3:36pm
  • I owned an AU2 XR6 and it was far from a Lemon. In the right colour they looked great. Not to mention handled great, excellent fuel economy in 5 speed manual and were very reliable.. as mentioned previously in a wheels magazine.. just ask a taxi driver how many km they got from them... 1,000,000 + was the norm!

    Alec of Melbourne Posted on 14 September 2010 3:24pm
  • I used to have a Datsun 120Y hatchback - it had a brilliant economy. I went from Melbourne to Sydney at 48mpg when fuel prices skyrocketed in the mid 70s. I don't regret having that car for a moment - why can't they build them like that anymore - they just want to build a computers on wheels.

    Brendan of Traralgon Posted on 14 September 2010 3:03pm
  • I guess one needs to define "worst".

    Rick Posted on 14 September 2010 2:25pm
  • I think you guys need a holiday, the 120y is an awesome car, i owned one and i could not kill it, also you look at how many people choose it to slap a turbo in.

    glen campbell of Macquarie Fields Posted on 14 September 2010 2:16pm
  • I don't see the Landrover Disco either, a great idea but absolutely horrid build quality and reliability for a premium price surely puts this car in the list.

    Ollygt of Brisbane Posted on 14 September 2010 2:04pm
  • The AU Falcon fixed the issues with earlier EF and EL engines blowing gaskets and sand cast radiators. In fact a fix for the EF and EL was to use AU head bolts and torquing the head to AU specs. The Datsun 120Y was not a lemon, it was cheap and would last a long time, our family had one when we moved to Queensland and couldn't afford anything better, it spent its time on the road compared to any "Australian Made" offering. The others I can agree with although the Camira suffered more from poor quality conformance than anything else, some would go forever and some would fail leaving the dealer's lot. The Magna suffered a lot from being "made in Australia" at that time when all vehicles possibly bar Toyota that were assembled here suffered from all manner of problems. The Magna's main issue was the Astron II engine which suffered from the same problems as the Astron I engine. Poor cylinder bores and rings and balance shaft setup that really needed re thinking. Ours was fantastic but started to rust despite being washed every week and garaged which was more to do with assembly issues. I don't see the VC commodore "vacationer" station wagon with the 4cylinder and automatic.

    Ollygt of Brisbane Posted on 14 September 2010 2:01pm
  • I agree about the Jags (cept the SIII) but the jag shown was post '90 wasn't it? The only good Datsun was a 260z but surely the Chrysler Centrua should have been 1st!

    alan z of sydney Posted on 14 September 2010 1:59pm
  • THIS ARTICLE IS COMPLETE CRAP. Every model of every car built [except perhaps RR] has had a lemon or two in its production. It's like trying to rate the 10 best footballers in history - it can't be done!

    Colin Wood of Woondowing Posted on 14 September 2010 1:56pm
  • Ive had several Magnas, manual and auto, of every series .TM, TR, TJ. All were reliable, well built and covered the miles with ease and comfort. No problems, no dramas. And I love, love, love my current 380 GT !! Mitsubishi gets undeserved bad press .. but those in the know who own them just keep on smiling to themselves.

    Gaz of ACT Posted on 14 September 2010 1:50pm
  • I owned a JB Camira from 1985 to 1995.Only sold it as I got a company car. It was fantastic. Drove from Brisbane to Darwin return 3 times, Darwin Adelaide return once and Brisbane Sydney regularly. It would do 130kph on the open highway and get between 700 and 800 km per tank of fuel. Some say I got a "Wednesday" car as that was the only day of the week workers put in any effort (still hungover Mon,Tues from the weekend and Thurs, Fri too busing planning what to do on the weekend). I loved my old girl and was very sad when I sold her. No major mechanical problems I can recall and continued to drive the streets of Darwin after I sold her (though I don't think the new owners lover her as I did).

    Darren McCartney of Darwin Posted on 14 September 2010 1:32pm
  • Please take your hand off it when was the last time you seen a Datsun 120y on the road and what other car can you get that will do as as many k's as a falcon irrespective of fuel economy,things like kia, daewoo,great wall ,Hyundai should never been allowed in the country.

    mark cordingley of Posted on 14 September 2010 1:29pm
  • Nissan Bluebird series III. 8 Spark plugs in a 4 cylinder engine. Genius! Could'nt keep the oil up to it & eventually cost a fortune to overhaul.Couldn't find a mechanic who wanted to work on it.Schmicked it up,traded it in,Good bye & good riddance.

    Tom McCraigen of Brisbane Posted on 14 September 2010 1:19pm
  • Official figures show more people have been killed in Holden Commodores that any other car in Australia, especially under 25?s. So why isn?t the Holden Commodore on this list? Mark time for a career change I think

    Graham of Melboure Posted on 14 September 2010 1:12pm
  • The Datsun 180B was the worst car ever, I wished I had bought the 120Y instead

    120 Y Fan of Brisbane of Brisbane Posted on 14 September 2010 1:00pm
  • Most of the cars that have appeared had to pass the Australian Govt rules of the day. I still have a couple of these cars in my garage. AU Falcon series one forte got 9 litre per 100 Kilms when my wife and I drove to Cowra from Brisbane and back, Trouble free travel. Great radio and CD. My Leyland P76 six gets similar fuel economy and that is 36 year old very comfortable. Come and check my Leyland and others at the All British Day in Brisbane this Sunday. As this was a recycled article, how about getting up from your desk and actually getting into the Club scenes and then your will have something to write & talk about. A lot of good cars still on the road, many have been highly modified, How about taking them on or are you just lazy?

    Adrian Spencer of Brisbane Posted on 14 September 2010 12:59pm
  • Sigma. Oh where do I start? First a motor that habitually chewed batteries due to the excess effort to crank over the balance shafts, and which would die the minute a splashed puddle threw a drop anywhere near the electronic ignition. Then we move on to the front end geometry which had positive camber to try to lighten the diabolically heavy feel through the steering wheel but only succeeded in wearing out the 13 inch front tyres in record time. The rear guards which quickly became rust magnets at the bottom of the C pillar and the hood lining which came away due to lousy adhesive all combined to drive me insane as a poor student owner of one of the early models of this inglorious bucket of bolts. Continuing the badness, I once had the misfortune to own an EA series II for a short time complete with 4 speed auto. Not for long however. Someone stole it and it was thrashed in the process despite the insurance telling me it was fine. Traded it as soon as I got it back.

    Goodbye and good riddance to Mitsubishi Aust of Toyotaville and happy Posted on 14 September 2010 12:53pm
  • This has to be one of the most thoughtless lists I've ever read. You need to get new writers, none of these cars really deserve the term lemon, indeed some were vastly superior to their competitors when built, and in certain cases are true classics. What on earth is wrong with a Targa florio P76 (killed off by government car policy - not product issues), or one of the quick L16 engined JDM sunnys (the bullet proof 120y)? Ditto the SAAB, XJS jags, some hummers and the Vitesse - all highly desirable models and well received in their day. Even the lowly Magna is a hoot in 3.5L 5 speed form. There are better candidates, and many of them more contemporary.

    Chas of SA Posted on 14 September 2010 12:53pm
  • MARK MARK MARK. How about doing some home work first. Instead of just condemning things. There are many cars which were bad or lemons. But most of what you have listed were, not to bad for the year they were built and sold. The 120Y was a good cheap all-round car and as you have said many are still going today. Certainly better than the Honda Scamp base model of the day which also had drum brakes and used to drop water pumps regularly. The P76 was just 10 years to early there wasn?t any thing else wrong with them. The Falcon was the first of the new Model, Ford fixed the problems under warranty Commodores of the day weren?t much better by the way as they had Radiator and gearbox problems. I worked on SAAB 900?s for years, and I only ever rebuilt one (1) engine caused by water in the fuel. The heat wire sensor in the turbo used to go after 100k?s but that was all. But that was common on many Turbo cars especially the Nissan pulsar Turbo. Mark you must be young and need to do some more homework as a lot of these cars were good for their time and when you look at the technology behind them it still had a long way to go! And we didn?t even see the Hummers in Australia for 5 years,

    Graham of Melbourne Posted on 14 September 2010 12:52pm
  • There is one car that certainly warrants being on the list and it's the Vauxhall viva, forerunner to the Torana. Going around corners at any speed was terrifying. It understeered so badly I wanted to get out and walk. A truly horrible piece of junk!!

    peter vester of sydney Posted on 14 September 2010 12:52pm
  • MARK MARK MARK. How about doing some home work first. Instead of just condemning things. There are many cars which were bad or lemons. But most of what you have listed were, not to bad for the year they were built and sold. The 120Y was a good cheap all-round car and as you have said many are still going today. Certainly better than the Honda Scamp base model of the day which also had drum brakes and used to drop water pumps regularly. The P76 was just 10 years to early there wasn?t any thing else wrong with them. The Falcon was the first of the new Model, Ford fixed the problems under warranty Commodores of the day weren?t much better by the way as they had Radiator and gearbox problems. I worked on SAAB 900?s for years, and I only ever rebuilt one (1) engine caused by water in the fuel. The heat wire sensor in the turbo used to go after 100k?s but that was all. But that was common on many Turbo cars especially the Nissan pulsar Turbo. Mark you must be young and need to do some more homework as a lot of these cars were good for their time and when you look at the technology behind them it still had a long way to go! And we didn?t even see the Hummers in Australia for 5 years,

    Graham of Melbourne Posted on 14 September 2010 12:50pm
  • What about the Russian built LADA? A car for a lifetime they said. Of course they would stay with you a lifetime...once you owned one, you could never sell one, hence the "lifetime" tag!!!

    Alex of Sydney Posted on 14 September 2010 12:45pm
  • They forgot the Lada range...and the Avalon, 380...

    homer Posted on 14 September 2010 12:43pm
  • I think you should be more specific about the P76. The 6 cylinder was a dog but the V8 was and still is a pearl. I have a V8 and she still going strong.

    Max Lawrence of Tumut NSW Posted on 14 September 2010 12:40pm
  • My worst car was an NA Fairlane. I purchased it new and also immediately there were major problems. There were frequent electrical faults (so many RACV rescue calls) and the fan belt squeaked so loud that it was embarrassing. I had been a Ford man for may years, but that turned me off. My best car was a Volvo S80 T6 - just as enjoyable as my HSV GTS but better behaved in the wet, and impressed the idiots who assumed all Volvo drivers were slow and bad.

    Mike of Melbourne Posted on 14 September 2010 12:40pm
  • Well I must be one lemon myself - had a Datsun 120Y as my first car - did over 100,000klms in it - serviced it myself and it never never did not start - never had an accident in it - drove it many weekends from Ryde to Wisemans Ferry and I never drove off the cliff edge on the way down the mountain, also did the Bulli Pass several times. Bought the car for $ 2999 and traded it in for $ 3000 several years later on another car. Had a 2000 SS commodore that I had to have several thousands of dollars work done (thankfully under warranty) when it only had 17,000 kms on it was looked after better than a child - but spent a lot of time in the shop - almost considered moving the bed to the workshop so I could save time. The only saving grace was the workshop was only down the road otherwise I would really have been pis... off. Cost a bonza to have it serviced and it still played up. So all I can say is go the datty 120y was one hell of a car.

    One Datsun 120Yfan of sydney Posted on 14 September 2010 12:38pm
  • Note the V8 Leyland P76 was also Wheel's Car of the Year in 1973. Remember it did has some safety innovations such as recessed door handles, full length side intrusion reinforcements on all doors. As well as rack and pinion steering , McPherson struts, front hinged bonnet and concealed windscreen wipers. Not bad in 1973/74 compared to Falcons, Holdens and Valiants. And what about that engine tied to large light weighed body 1200kg. A superb power to weight ratio. :

    Kim Dvorak of Strathfield Posted on 14 September 2010 12:22pm
  • Mark u say early Magnas & yet u have a pic of the 1997 mdl wich is a very good car! U need 2 work for a comic publication!!!

    Fender of Albany WestAust Posted on 14 September 2010 12:21pm
  • What about the Russian built 'Niva', surely that rates high in anyone's top 10 lemons. The only car ever manufactured with a heated external rear panel, as standard, to keep your hands warm whilst pushing it through the snow. (According to the old joke.)

    G.Tester of Northern Rivers NSW Australia Posted on 14 September 2010 12:19pm
  • Congratulations Mr Hinchliffe, due to your utter ineptness as a journalist you have cost your publication a subscriber - my subscription to The Courier-Mail has now been cancelled. I refuse to continue paying for a publication that would print such obviously unresearched inaccurate articles. Cars Guide - you too have lost a subscriber for having the audacity to republish an article you should surely know is patently inaccurate. Shame on you - how can you hold yourselves up as an authority and reference point for the auotmotive public when you reprint this drivel??

    James of Cairns Posted on 14 September 2010 12:19pm
  • Yep, AU was a dog when it came out and is still a dog. Funny how one car can almost break an entire company.

    Ford man of Broadmeadow Posted on 14 September 2010 12:18pm
  • Reckon the Sigmas coulda qualified in this list

    rolanstein of Perth Posted on 14 September 2010 12:05pm
  • Yes it was the Dreaded EA not the AU Mark Mark Mark. dress em up & what do they do?

    fender of Albany W.A Posted on 14 September 2010 12:03pm
  • The WORST car i have ever owned&I have had 100's is the Chrysler SIGMA.sorry I meant SICKMA. 1st the mtr the the gearbox then the mtr again the the clutch then the mtr again. Bad Bad car!!!

    fender of Albany WestAust Posted on 14 September 2010 12:01pm
  • The Ssangyong Korando. Took Mercedes Benz technology and added their own brand of unreliability. AU Falcon owners would hunt these cars down to park next to them so their cars looked good!!

    Robbie Anderson of Melbourne Posted on 14 September 2010 11:55am
  • I cancelled my new EA Falcon order as the factory was having lots of problems with the car, glad I did the first EA's were real duds. Purchased a Honda instead, a really wise decision. And as for the Morris Marina, did you ever drive the Auzzie only 6 cylinder version, dangerous in any cornering manouver.

    John Posted on 14 September 2010 11:53am
  • AU a lemon? It is easy to make unsubstantiated criticism. Here are my views. STYLING. GMC (and the media) embarked on a viscous attack on the AU. It was liked to the Tauris, one of the most successful and long running models in the US. The "waterfall" grill has re-appeared on a current Nissan model. The rear styling was taken up by Mercedes Benz. Was there one word of criticism? No! HEADROOM/VISION. I measured the headroom where it counts - at the squab and seat (where your buttocks sit) to the top of the windscreen on both AU and VT Commodore. Less than two cm difference. ENGINEERING. Variable valve timing was standard in 1998. It took GMH years to catch up. PERFORMANCE. The AU's acceleration past 60 km/h was much quicker than the VT competitor. Economy - outstanding. I personally used ONE tankful of e91 petrol between Brisbane and Sydney, traveling at 95 km/h achieving 8.2 l/100k. RELIABILITY. I have only paid for normal servicing during the time I have owned it - no blown gaskets no overheating, and has never "limped". VALUE for MONEY. I bought the cat at auction in 2000 for $16500. Now it's about $4000 to $5000. Who has come out ahead, AU owner or VT owner?

    Grahame Venn of Brisbane Posted on 11 September 2010 1:40pm
  • Where the hells the korean peices of crap? they should be the top 100, lets see, throttle jamming open nearly killing familys (there qaud cam engine) there ugly looks, the engine desintegrating into chunks of metal cough cough Carnival and the Korean built Barina. And yet the reliable AU get listed and a top Swedish engineered Saab known for breaking world records... wheres the Mitsubishis?

    Flemo of Aus Posted on 06 September 2010 5:25pm
  • AU... unreliable HA, some one fire this guy.

    AUnonymous of nsw Posted on 06 September 2010 5:18pm
  • AU doing head gaskets??? Head gasket issues where an E-series problem. A combination of a triple plated head gasket, plus failsafe cooling meant head gasket issues in the AU where non existent. Who is the clown who wrote this article???

    John Smith Posted on 05 September 2010 6:45pm
  • This "article" paid for by Holden.......

    JC of ACT Posted on 05 September 2010 5:13pm
  • AU Falcon? What is that doing in there? It is the most reliable Falcon model in the last 20 years. They don't blow head gaskets, that was the EA-EL. The opinions on looks are different for everyone and shouldn't be the reason why a car is labelled a lemon.

    Walter Kronkite Posted on 05 September 2010 2:29pm
  • To the peanut who copied and pasted this article (isn't a journalist). You need to come out of the closet, stop smoking that green stuff, take off your rose coloured Commodore glasses and get into the real world. Take a look at some of the garbage GMH has produced. Early Commodore?s with the misfire 4-cylinder engine, VN's which were a piece of junk and VT to VX with extremely poor build quality and recalls which GMH have publicly acknowledged. Currently in my drive I have 3 fords (AU 2, and 2 BA's) and a VX Commodore. The VX has cost me more in repairs and maintenance that the 3 fords combined. I am the first to admit that EA falcon's had head gasket and other problems but were pretty much a reliable car. Definitely not a lemon. I got my EA when it had done 160,000k and sold it with over 300.000k. I did have to rebuild the engine because someone cooked it when the head gasket started weeping, but apart from normal wear and tear repairs and maintenance it was a very reliable car. How about redoing this article after you get out and have a good look at all makes and do some real investigative journalism that is if your IQ is higher than the number of digits on both your hands.

    Steve of Perth W.A. Posted on 03 September 2010 2:56am
  • I brought a 2000 AU series 2 when it was 1 year old and had 35,000k on the clock. This has been a very reliable car with no major problems bar excessive brake pad wear which is due to the wife?s heavy braking efforts. The car now has 180.000km on it and I think it should not be on the list. Well maybe for ugly looks. I would say that Steve from Qld got a Monday build car.

    Steve of Perth W.A. Posted on 03 September 2010 2:11am
  • All interesting stuff. I owned both a Tasman and a Kimberley. Looking back I wonder what I was smoking at the time -- seriously nasty cars, especially the Tasman which had less bling than the Austin 1800 it replaced but cost more and the 2600cc 6 used 30% more fuel. Worst was the reversion to cross-ply tyres which with the atrociously nose-heavy design made it a real tree-lover. The Kimberly had adjustable seats, radials, 4 headlights and 2 SU carbies. The 1970's Jaguars may have had crap build quality but they were seriously fun to drive. My 1976 XJ12 was probably the best ride/handling car I've ever seen -- and I'm comparing that to an Audi S8 and MB 500S. Just sublime. Kept my mechanic in work, but... The Rover 3500cc/3900cc motor used in the Ranger Rover has been good for us. The 1995 Vogue has 254,000km and the engine is still on the original seals and gaskets. It lunched a fuel pump at 176,000km but other than that continues to run like a dream. Not bad for an updated 1972 vehicle design.

    Larry of Melbourne Posted on 02 September 2010 9:45pm
  • What about the Austin Kimberly and Tasman, they went well, when they worked, I had a Kimberly, I took it from the dealer after getting it fully serviced, it went 1 city block, before it stalled at the traffic lights, the engine had flooded, the auto transmission had to be rebuilt, but it did have nice seats!

    arch of melb Posted on 02 September 2010 9:22pm
  • Totally agree with the Camira. My old JB would randomly break down for no reason, not want to start again. But when the RACV Man arrived an hour later, she'd start on the first go. This happened numerous times.

    corym of Sunshine Coast QLD Posted on 02 September 2010 7:56pm
  • I bought an EA Falcon off a mate who had spent thousands fixing it and didn't know when it would end. I drove it for 8 years I put 2 tyres on it and a battery. One of the best cars I've ever had! My mate was kicking himself. I've since bought an AU II and it has been even better.

    zoran miloica of sydney Posted on 02 September 2010 5:29pm
  • Oh my, the Holden Camira was the scurge of the Holden family. Shocking engines that blew seals like they were jelly. Now didn't the Holden Calibra have the very same engine in it, which was then topped up with a Turbo? I might be wrong, but both were disgraceful cars. I get sick thinking about them....

    Matt of The Basin Posted on 01 September 2010 4:48pm
  • I bought a Ford AU11 in 2000 and believe it should be number 1 on the list.The suspension,gearbox,seals and the car itself began falling apart before 500 kms.One of the service managers said to me once that Ford build this S### and I'm to fix it which by the way I can't.Not bad from a service manager.Ford Melb sent engineers up to evaluate the car only to discover that it's parameters were standard Fords parameters. Never again trust Ford I shall.

    Stephen O'Brien of Boondall QLD Posted on 01 September 2010 1:35pm
  • Why does the AU2 Falcon feature in these photos, it was better value and more technologically advanced than the competitors of the time. The Ford Falcon was the first Australian built car to feature an airbag as standard as well as side intrusion bars. If you're going to critisise a vehicle, do us a favor and say why, there were no captions.

    martin buchan of perth Posted on 01 September 2010 6:02am
  • I had a '92 Magna sedan. Base model - carby engine. Sold it in 2004. Never cost me a dime in repairs beyond the normal tyres, batteries, and brakes. Outstanding reliability. Surprised Lada didn't make the list though...

    Charles of Perth Posted on 31 August 2010 11:14pm
  • I've read those 120Y comments somewhere before, how original, NOT. AU's don't have head gasket problems, that was the earlier models, AU's are actually very reliable.

    Rob of Perth Posted on 31 August 2010 8:49pm
  • If as a so called motoring journalist you can?t come up with something worth while to write about I?d suggest you take Bambi?s mother?s advice and say Nothing. Because this article is just the normal regurgitated tripe that gets wheeled out from time to time by un-imaginative writers who can?t take the time to research further that the funny pages of the favourite reading, the comic section. Some truly dreadful, unsafe, unglamorous cars have been foistered upon the motoring public because of the personal whims of motoring writers who can't be bother to take the time and effort to do some research, so take the time do some research and come up with an article that has some merit and is worth reading

    richard/triumphs of Sydney Posted on 31 August 2010 5:32pm
  • Our 120Y went well without any serious dramas for over 20 years, only oil changes and 1 change ot tyres\pads. I'm surprised the author did not mention the original Land Rover Freelander, what a piece of junk This author failed in his piece.

    Will Anderson of Melbourne Posted on 31 August 2010 12:06pm
  • The Datsun 120y is the best car I have ever owned in terms of maintenance. It could be fixed with a bare minimum of tools by anyone with an IQ higher than their hat size. Replaced the engine myself inside a week and I have no mechanical experience at all in rural Tasmania. And in terms of fuel efficiency second to none. So go stick that in your overblown sense of superiority, blowhard.

    Mad Dat of Perth Posted on 31 August 2010 11:55am
  • Like any of these articles, the list is subjective.

    Michael of Canberra Posted on 30 August 2010 2:00pm
  • Rover 3500 with six cylinders???

    MotoWebbi of Brisbane Posted on 30 August 2010 11:52am
  • Hinchcliffe, if this the best you can offer, i suggest you change jobs. NOW. my AU3 posted 12.97K/L over a 1750km round trip , Brisbane / Newcastle last month. car has 155.000k on the clock. I had a 120y with a 1500 motor good value / good brakes.

    'L.J. COOPER Posted on 29 August 2010 11:23am
  • They are definitely not the top 10 lemons! Like most motoring journalists here they have limited knowledge about cars. My top 10 lemons would have included the EA Falcon, Hyundai Scoupe, Daewoo Cielo, Chrysler Sebring, Mitso Sigma, Subaru SVX and an Alfa.

    3.5 V8 is huge (compared to a mower) Posted on 29 August 2010 3:40am
  • You also forgot the Holden Commodore 2006 to present.

    Jimmy Posted on 29 August 2010 12:15am
  • Datsun 120Y Good economy, reasonable performance for 1.2 litre, mediocre handling, Prone to rust. Reliability better than most cars out of Europe at the time. AU Falcon - A small % of Falcons (EF, EL etc) had head gasket issues and they did use more fuel than pre VT Commodores. AU's were an excellent car - Highway economy in the low 8's possible Head gasket issues? Dealer mods done during warranty period should have prevented this. Know of several with well over 200,000 km with no issues. Morris Marina - Agree the 6 cylinder version made the 120Y's handling look sports car like P76 - Clever design with several features ahead of its time. Doubtful appearance and appalling build quality Holden Camira What were Wheels thinking! Rover 3500 - 3.5 litre alloy V8 hardly massive-unused Buick design - Drove well - 70's British build quality unfortunate Early Magna - Good drive Some early issues including auto. Not as bad as stated here. Overall comment - Some worse contenders ignored - more research and fact based comments required. Subjects like this are open to bias -even from "experienced mechanics" Advice: have car serviced at dealer during warranty to ensure updates are done

    Stewart Eldridge of Brisbane Posted on 28 August 2010 9:02pm
  • I have 2 AU Falcons and they are great cars. Between them they have covered 500,000kms. They use less fuel than the comparable VT Commodore, are substantially more powerful/torquey too. Looks are subjective and I find my quad headlight XR6 to be quite attractive. As for blown head gaskets. Rubbish. Ford was the first to have a limp home coolant loss mode which was released in the AU and the new gasket design is a retrofit to the older E-Series.

    Phil C. of Newcastle Posted on 28 August 2010 5:27pm
  • I have owned and driven many cars. The AU Falcon was one of the best with excellent economy. You have got it wrong Mark.

    Sam of Adelaide. Posted on 28 August 2010 11:10am
  • OOOHHHH, you left out the first gen Kia Rio as a lemon, mine lasted 12 months, electrical gremlins and stuff like random stalling, all probems with no apparent fix. My mechanic lost plenty of sleep, in the end, I traded it in for a Toyota. Check out the US Kia forums for all the poor sods inflicted with this automotive dross, and a dealer network who wiped their hands of you at waranty time cos you used a "non genuine sump plug washer" 3 services ago. Luckily Aussie consumer laws are better here grin

    Daniel of Adelaide Posted on 28 August 2010 9:56am
  • The AU falcon wasn't a lemon. Sure is is the ugliest car australia has ever produced, but it was a certainly a reliable car. How many AU falcon taxis would there be with over 500,000kms? I'd say all of them. Japanese cars couldnt break the 300,000km barrier, i know that from experience.

    kaygas of nintendo Posted on 27 August 2010 8:27pm
  • I would add the Austin A40 Farina. I drove one for eight years and parts NEVER stopped breaking, no matter how often I replaced them. New shocks every six months, new valves every six months, new door locks every year, and the brakes were simply dangerous. The engine was about as powerful as a slug on valium. Eventually I just threw it away.

    Ralph Schwer of Vietnam Posted on 27 August 2010 7:29pm
  • The Leyland P76 was an Australian car and never sold in the UK. It had the option of a 4.4 V8 engine that is still sought after these days as to it's performance and reliability. The writer of this article doesn't know a lot about cars, and probably listens to other people who don't know a lot either.

    martin of newcastle Posted on 27 August 2010 7:20pm
  • Being a Ford mechanic and a Ford technician for 27 years. The AU was a very good car, ugly yes but very reliable... Funny no mention of the Holdens, which the AU made them look like Lemons and the same goes for the Toyota, they had bigger and more serious problems than the Ford Falcon range ever did... Mark Hinchcliffe, I think you may be bias somewhere here, my friend... or you need to follow up your stories more thoroughly in the future. I bet you have made a lot of enemies today for this unreliable and very inaccurate story of yours.

    adrian small of Geelong Posted on 27 August 2010 6:50pm
  • I think you have not driven 120Y ,that is why writing these useless stories about 120Y, that is a car ever been succeeded in sale as well as riding, it is advisable to write information without writing false allegation without knowing any thing about cars, your knowledge can be measured looking at the article it self ,BULL SHIT

    Sumith Asanka of Colombo Posted on 27 August 2010 4:40pm
  • This Bugger has not driven a120Y that is the only reason , it is advisable to make sure you are correct before writing shit stories about cars.

    Sumith of Colombo Posted on 27 August 2010 4:32pm
  • Mark Hinchliffe thinks he's a motoring writer. I have never heard of an AU Falcon blowing a head gasket. Try learning the difference between an E series Falcon and an AU series, you might gain some credibility.

    Joe Galea of Hoppers Crossing Posted on 27 August 2010 3:53pm
  • Whoever wrote this has no idea about cars! What a load of rubbish. I reckon they just Googled and made up some trash.

    Ben of Perth Posted on 27 August 2010 3:52pm
  • I have to totally disagree with this article, the writer knows nothing about cars. The 120y is widely considered to be genesis - the car that took us out of the dark days of poorly built, unreliable british built small cars. The 120 was totally reliable, and dynamically a good car to drive. The fact that the brakes are a bit bad now after 30 years is no reason to put it in a list of worst cars. On the contrary, it should be listed as one of history's best.

    Aaron Posted on 27 August 2010 3:32pm
  • Who ever wrote this article knows nothing about cars, the 120Y was a big selling well made economical and extremely reliable little car, just because they are a bit daggy or not as trendy as the wanker who wrote this rubbish is no reason to slander a great car that many of us had as our first car and always got us home safely. As for a 3500 Rover having a massive V8 engine, the author is displaying their ignorance of car engines , A 454 cubic inch engine could be described as massive but a 3.5 litre V8 thats tiny, this guy is an idiot. The Leyland P76 is not a "Gas guzzling Pom" as the plainly ignorant scribe asserts but a home grown Aussie car. Please go and get a job writing something you know a little bit about instead of writing sh!t about cars which you plainly know nothing about.

    Sidedraught of Wamberal Posted on 27 August 2010 3:16pm
  • I'd like to call you on the early Magnas performance actually. I'll think you'll find they were actually quicker the 6 cylinder commodores of the day at release (both 173 and 202 models). A lot smoother too. Early carby models did have driveability issues, but the move to EFI fixed that. Ahhh, the 120why, the butt of many an automotive joke. Least I knew what happened to all those recycled pie trays. You forgot the 200B. A180B with 20 more mistakes. Mind you they seemed to keep going and going though, either the mark of someone with a lot of patience, or a testament to their durability.

    Oi Posted on 27 August 2010 3:09pm
  • Not sure why Hummers keep getting singled out as being environmentally unfriendly, as they're no more envionmentally damaging then any other overweight gas-guzzling 4WD. Agree about the 4cyl Magna's having 6 cyl economy, I had a TR Magna 2.6EFI that was thirstier than a Commodore!

    Jim C of Sydney Posted on 27 August 2010 3:01pm
  • Can't agree about the P76. Compared to the Falcon, Valiant and Kingswood it was a pretty good car. Ever driven a 3 speed column-change XB Falcon with bench seats and drum brakes all round? What a joke. The P76 V8 was more economical than the Falcon 6 cylinder, and the P76 had the best, most comfortable seats of any car at the time (excepting perhaps Renaults) - even the bench seat, which actually held you in place, unlike the Falcon's bench seat. Oh, and you couldn't even get an esky in the Falcon's boot.

    John Posted on 27 August 2010 3:01pm
  • The brakes on the 120Y are fine and as people are saying what kind of lemon keeps for 40 years? I abuse mine brutally and it keeps running. Thanks to being born with a brain I've never rolled it either, sticks perfectly through a turn shifting down to third through a corner at 50-60. And how can it be worse than the marina when it was based off it and featured only improvements by Japanese efficiency?

    Thomas Ault of Canberra Posted on 27 August 2010 2:47pm
  • My mate had a 120Y as her first car. I got to drive it when she hadn't got her plates yet. Was one of the funnest little cars going - i found it more fun to drive than most current little cars - and it looked cute smile

    o_O Posted on 27 August 2010 2:27pm
  • All brands have lemons some more then others, just bought a 2010 Polo and has more problems than Tiger Woods.

    VW owner of Brisvegas Posted on 27 August 2010 1:54pm
  • Well I'd have to admit my 1985 carby Magna did have a rust problem, though I believe they got this sorted with the next model upgrade. But in terms of performance, i.e. acceleration it used to blow the wheels of my fathers gutless 1985 6 cylinder Commodore.

    Glenn of Sydney Posted on 27 August 2010 1:54pm
  • The Rover did not have a massive v8 - rather a 3.5 litre. It was crap though

    chris Posted on 27 August 2010 1:40pm
  • I loved my Morris Marina sure it wasn't the more comfortable ride but very reliable. I always said it was a Wednesday car

    Sally Posted on 27 August 2010 1:30pm
  • Shame the Lada didn't make the list or the four cylinder unleaded Rodeo's where a slight incline was its worse enemy.

    Richard of Bathurst Posted on 27 August 2010 1:06pm
  • Oh dear. Had a Camira (1988 model) which we had no probs with (tho I knew people were saying 'lemon car' behind our back) and still have our 1993 magna which is going great and I have become sentimental about and will drive into the ground... looks like I can't pick 'em!!!

    Janie K of ACT Posted on 27 August 2010 12:58pm
  • 120y a lemon, super reliable and great perfomer. Raced one of these still with the 1200, with harder front springs and better front pads putting many a modern car to shame. Yes they rust when exposed to air but how lemon can you get to still be running 25 years later... mmmm lemonade!

    Shane of NSW Posted on 27 August 2010 12:31pm
  • As for the Falcon AU being a lemon I would disagree. As a owner of 11 years, none of the issues you described have occured to me. Okay, so it wasnt the prettiest car, but to label it a lemon is a bit extreme.

    George of Melbourne Posted on 27 August 2010 12:16pm
  • My sister worked at a car yard in VIC that got one of the first 120Y's that had air conditioning, according to the sales rep you took off got to 80kph then turned on the aircon. Didn't need brakes, grin

    Peter of ACT Posted on 27 August 2010 12:11pm
  • One Jag Dealership in Perth never let anyone take them for a test drive on a rainy day due to endless leaking. And they were always undercover. An aunt had a 120Y for 20 years and never had to have the brake pads replaced. When she upgraded to a 4 cyl Camry she got a speeding fine on the first day.

    Mike Gee of Perth Posted on 27 August 2010 11:30am
  • Have to agree with other people here. The first EA was a lemon & had the issues described. The AU, despite having looks that are an acquired taste (XR models look good imho) is a very reliable car & not prone to gasket and/or thermostat failures. It also had better fuel economy than the model that replaced it. Also, you mention that the 120Y was very reliable (it was), so how can it be judged a lemon?

    Joseph of Sydney Posted on 27 August 2010 11:19am
  • Great article. Made me laugh thinking about those cars. wink

    Smile Posted on 27 August 2010 9:40am
  • Leave the 200B alone guys =*( ......

    dano Posted on 27 August 2010 8:40am
  • Is this article supposed to be real or just ignorance based on misinformation? The Rover 3500 has a massive V8 engine? Err it's called the 3500 because it has a 3500cc V8! - whats massive about that? It's closely related to the V8 in the Leyland P76 which the author claims is a gas guzzler despite using 24mpg when new.

    Mr T of Brisbane Posted on 27 August 2010 5:23am
  • Early EA's were lemons, the EA2 was a reasonable car. Still had head gaskit issues, but so did all the fords until the Au, altho less & less issues with each passing model. Ford fixed the issue (mostly) with the AU, a redesigned head gaskit & better bolts. But you won't ever completely stop the issue with a cast iron block & alloy headed engine. I'd rather blow a gaskit than crack the head! The VN series 1 was also a big lemon. The VB commodore too! Most Daewoo's are because they are built very, very cheaply & people generally don't service them. Early Hyundai excel's were lemon's too. Dodgy welding. Magna's are well known for consuming as much oil as they consume petrol! They are cheap because 90% of owners don't look after them, making them almost worthless.

    Spare parts Guy of Melbourne Posted on 27 August 2010 12:45am
  • The problem with the EA was casting sand not cleaned out of the engines blocks properly, which caused overheating and in turn blocked the radiator which had to be replaced or cleaned, the issue was quickly fixed...series 2 EAs were allot issues at all with the AU 1 to 3.....and yes early Magnas cracked engine blocks at the balance shaft side...

    Wazza of South Aust Posted on 26 August 2010 10:44pm
  • I know you mentioned but the ugliest car ever made is Ssangyong Stavic, evil!

    paul of adelaide Posted on 26 August 2010 10:18pm
  • The Leyland P76 had a number of features which marked it as far ahead of the other big Australian cars, rack and pinion steering, mac pherson strut front suspension, light and powerful alloy V8, great comfort and superb handling. As for "thirst"it was more economical and had better performance than V8's from the other big three car makers. A true drivers car...and yes from some angles it does look good!!!

    Michael Calrke of bayswater victoria Posted on 26 August 2010 9:42pm
  • AU was unreal, great engine mark!! Look at all the taxis and ex taxis still on the road.

    Justin of melbourne Posted on 26 August 2010 8:47pm
  • I'm surprised the sigma didn't get a guernsey and most Alfas could be there

    gavin of Melbourne VIC Posted on 26 August 2010 8:21pm
  • AU has better fuel consumption then the BA that replaced it, also had no head gasket issues as problem was solved by end of EL, aside from the AU1 Forte they werent a bad product.

    Ryan UNR8D of brisbane. Posted on 26 August 2010 7:22pm
  • Ford Cortina! The oil leak specialist!

    The Sword of Panania Posted on 26 August 2010 6:52pm
  • Aah yes Hillman Imp. Mate of mine at school, his mum had one. Knocked a guy off his scooter at about 30km/h and wrote the car off! Given this was 1976 parts may not have been available.

    Bonester of Brisbane Posted on 26 August 2010 6:46pm
  • Ford Taurus! Obvious omission... (and yes I had one!) three years, $20K in warrantee work and 50+ written complaints to Ford Aus - the last came back from the GMs office with "stop writing!" - nice service! I was under 30 then and had had two new Fords and will never do it again (even though they make some decent product now!)

    Troy Swindells-Grose of Melbourne Posted on 26 August 2010 6:23pm
  • The early Magnas also had the propensity to split the engine blocks. The 120Y should also be joined by it's bigger siblings the 180B and 200B; Wheels Magazine once referred to the 200B as a 180B with 20 more mistakes.

    Miles of Essendon Posted on 26 August 2010 6:16pm
  • Hmm please oh please make room somewhere for the freekin Hillman IMP, now that was a car (not).

    deejay51 of Gold Coast Posted on 26 August 2010 5:52pm
  • All those Lancias and Fiats that arrived off the ship in the 1970s pre-rusted were probably shipped out as deck cargo on a submarine. One could also include Alfa Romeos in that category.

    Howard Posted on 26 August 2010 4:52pm
  • Are you only claiming the AUI as a lemon? I have an AUII and it's certainly one of the better cars I have owned.

    Mike Posted on 26 August 2010 4:30pm
  • Absolutely right Waz, the EA had all the issues Mark mentioned, not the AU! How can a motoring journalist get this stuff wrong? Ridiculous...

    Kobz Posted on 26 August 2010 4:18pm
  • The H2 is awesome!! It's a sh*t car but it's awesome!

    alex Posted on 26 August 2010 3:38pm
  • The later Model Magna's are quite good cars and great value. also i am sure the H2 was a great for off road use. It just seems that most ended up in the City. Hardly the fault of the H2.

    Dave Posted on 26 August 2010 2:58pm
  • was the EA Falcon that was a lemon and had the above mentioned, NOT THE AU Falcon, get it right MARK!!!!!

    Waz of South Aust Posted on 26 August 2010 1:11pm
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