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P-plate change for safer cars

  • By Paul Gover
  • Herald Sun
image Victoria has removed Restriction on High Performance Vehicles for p-platers on 'family' vehicles.

A wider choice of safe cars will soon be open to young drivers.

An easing of the limits under the High Performance Vehicles restrictions means probationary drivers will have access to a number of turbocharged and supercharged cars from Saab, Mercedes-Benz, BMW and other makes which had been banned.

None of them is a genuine performance car and models on the list include the family-focussed Mercedes B200 turbo and cruisy low-pressure 9-3 Saab turbo models.

The changes have been made by Victoria's Minister for Roads and Ports, Tim Pallas, and are expected to be copied by authorities in NSW and Queensland.

His decision follows a technical presentation by the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries and extensive lobbying from several carmakers, led by Mercedes-Benz.

There was an extensive assessment of the HPV criteria by VicRoads, which also consulted with the NSW Roads and Traffic Authority and Queensland Transport.

The difference in the new regulations is that the power-to-weight formula for cars on the HPV list has been changed to 100 kiloWatts-per-tonne.

Vehicles in the 100-125 kiloWatt-per-tonne can also be exempted from the restriction if they are considered to be 'family' and not a 'sports' type vehicle. The full list of eligible vehicles will soon be updated on the VicRoad website, but probationary drivers will need to apply for an exemption permit.

Mercedes-Benz Australia has at least eight models on the extended HPV list, from the C200 Kompressor to the upcoming E250 CGi, and has welcome the decision by Pallas and VicRoads.

"We are very pleased that the Victorian Government has taken the very reasonable position of recognising that some turbocharged and supercharged vehicles that could not be classified as HPVs will now be granted exemptions and that true HPVs will continue to be banned for young and Probationary drivers," says the managing director of Mercedes-Benz Australia, Horst von Sanden.

"Mercedes-Benz takes road safety seriously and has been a safety pioneer since we invented the motor car in 1886. This is an important road safety initiative of the Victorian Minister and we acknowledge his strong advocacy with his NSW and Queensland colleagues to develop and maintain a consistent and relevant set of criteria for HPVs."

 

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  • I'm my p's, I drive a Nissan pulsar N13 which has about 93kw and it weighs 948kgs stock. I would love to turbo it, take it up to about 120-130 kw but I can't because of stupid p plater laws which are solely based on engine capacity and mods. Some V6's and even 4 cylinders pack more of a punch than an old 308 or even a turbo CA18. This bullshit law has completely ruined the 'freedom' the p's grant us. Instead we are forced into shitty cars that we can't even take down to the track on the weekend. I wish the NSW government would actually change these rules to power to weight. That's all I and probably every other car lover who's on their p's would like.

    P plater from NSW of Bankstown Posted on 22 November 2010 9:29am
  • can any1 tell me if i can drive my Audi 1.8t its only 110kw and has a time of 8.5sec to 100 which is slower than a commodore

    Neru of wheelers hill Posted on 05 April 2010 8:31pm
  • Has anyone ever proved that p-platers will die more in faster accelerating cars or sportier cars or V8s, just becuase they have some advantage over others, performance wise? any car on a highway at 100km/h could kill its driver in a crash, its about safety of the car, about attitudes and social understanding of things like drink driving and speeding. why put a curfew on p platers if many are drunk at night and have no-one but one designated driver to go home with. and why isn't there a better approach to free breathalysers, i saw 7 drunk kids get into a car after a party, with 5 cop cars watching, all policemen out. the 16yo learner driver asked for a breathalyser but the officer said 'if you havent drunk you dont need it' and she replied that she hadnt drunk although she had and then drove off on fake P plates. sound stupid or what.

    educated p-plater of brisbane Posted on 20 January 2010 7:46am
  • Mervyn Thomas - no NSW driver's licence comes with points. Everybody starts with 0 points and acquires demerit points for offences committed.

    Jason Scott of Sydney Posted on 04 May 2009 10:00pm
  • omg thank god for some common sense. i have an audi 1.8t thats only 110kw and wasnt allowed to drive but now i can.. i thank the vic government.. probably the real smart state

    peter mcgregor Posted on 10 April 2009 10:38am
  • It sounds like a lot of marketing from the Europeans. I can t imagine there are that many P Platers who can afford to drive the latest MB or BMW ect.. Personally, let then drive big Aussie sedans: roomy, relaxed, larger so they need to be more careful when navigating traffic and parking also in a larger sedan you have to be more careful with your right foot to help get the most out of each fuel tank. To those on their P plates - happy motoring.

    Dave Posted on 03 April 2009 11:13am
  • It's ridiculous... I can't drive a 149kW v8 powered Luxo Barge from the 70's... But I can drive a deadly fast XR6 non turbo if I please.

    Aidan Posted on 02 April 2009 9:38pm
  • This article is unclear. Do these new rules only apply to Victorian P1 or both P1 and P2? The laws are confusing as they are, they need to be simplified, there are different rules for drivers on P1, P2, license before July 2007, license after July 2007 etc. Can someone please tell me, as a P2 driver who got his license in 2006, can I now drive an XR6 Turbo? Please.......

    James of Melbourne Posted on 29 March 2009 10:43pm
  • In the CarGuide ihere is a write up about P drivere being able to drive some cars with turbos on them. As the writing said that the P stood for a probationary drivers. Well NSW a probationary drivers is one that has lost all their points and need their licence for some reasor so they are granted a probationary drivers, that is black in colour, it has no points attached to it. While what should have been stated is a provitional licence, which is (for NSW), red for P1 and green for P2. They both come with an amount of points.

    Mervyn Thomas of Wollongong Posted on 24 March 2009 10:25pm
  • what a waste of money giving a p plater any expensive or even cheap performance car. most people don't know how to change a tyre let alone drive a car with respect for its mechanical parts.

    mcgee Posted on 24 March 2009 9:14pm
  • How do these restrictions actually create better drivers??? You can drive excessively or dangerously in pretty much ANY car, not just ones on the varied lists compiled by various transport departments in various states! What Australia needs is COMPULSORY defensive driving courses (in a driving centre, not on public roads) for ALL drivers, particularly young ones who are learning. Education that increases driver skills and attitudes is the key!! (though unfortunately you can't make the amount of revenue from such programs, as you can with things like speed cameras!)

    Ben Posted on 24 March 2009 8:41pm
  • what a waste of money giving a p plater any expensive or even cheap performance car. most people don't know how to change a tyre let alone drive a car with respect for its mechanical parts.

    mcgee Posted on 24 March 2009 8:10pm
  • @Seb: Only under 5 and a half? So they can't drive a Falcon XR6 Turbo but they can still drive a SS Commodore? For P platers it should be more like Focus 0-100 times. But they should have access to some turbocharged cars such a VW Golf turbo diesel, they are hardly going to set land speed records in that.

    Matt of Newcastle Posted on 24 March 2009 1:00pm
  • Sometimes i just do not understand vicroads and their stupid ways. I mean really it really should just be common sense to them to ban cars that have 0-100 time of under 5 and a half seconds or something similar to to that. If P platers want to go extremely fast and kill them selfs then it does not matter what car you drive as most will get to a deadly speed quickly.

    Seb Posted on 17 March 2009 12:02am
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