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New HSV GTS Australia’s most powerful car

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    Artist impression of the 2013 HSV "Gen-F". Artwork by Steve Short.

  • -- HSV saves the best until last: “Gen-F” GTS is Australia’s fastest and most powerful sedan of all time
  • -- Supercharged V8 has 430kW and 740Nm of grunt, more than the world’s best performance sedans
  • -- HSV GTS overtakes the iconic Ford Falcon Phase III GTHO as the new king of Australian muscle, on sale August priced about $100,000

The new HSV GTS has been one of the best-kept secrets in Australian automotive history.

Today Carsguide can exclusively lay bare classified information on what will be the fastest and most powerful car Australia has ever produced -- and likely ever will produce -- the new HSV GTS “Gen F”.

Given the uncertain future of local manufacturing, and an imminent switch to four-cylinder economy cars, the new HSV GTS is poised to become the Australian automotive equivalent of the iconic racehorse Black Caviar.

The new generation Holden Special Vehicles GTS will be powered by a 6.2-litre supercharged V8 borrowed from a race-bred Chevrolet Camaro, known as the “LSA”.

Its epic 430kW of power and 740Nm of torque eclipses that of any car previously made in Australia, and has more grunt than the world’s fastest sedans currently on sale in Australia (see table below). Only the new Mercedes E63 which goes on sale locally later this year will match its kilowatt output.

In imperial measurements the new HSV GTS “Gen F” has 575 horsepower, only 25hp less than a 2012 V8 Supercar. Performance times are yet to be announced but the new HSV GTS is said to accelerate quicker than most Porsches, reaching 0 to 100km/h in “comfortably less” than 4.5 seconds, which also happens to be the unofficial time for the latest supercharged Ford Falcon GT.

While most of the HSV’s European peers can top 300km/h on an autobahn, the GTS has been electronically speed-limited to 250km/h, to meet General Motors’ global guidelines but still enable enthusiast drivers to explore its potential on a race track.

To tame its mammoth grunt the HSV GTS “Gen F” will be fitted with performance technology never seen before on a locally-made car, some of it inspired by Porsche. Electronic “torque vectoring” brings new levels of driver control by apportioning power to the outside wheel when accelerating out of corners.

The stability control system on the new GTS will have five settings (up from the current three) that will also adjust steering and suspension feel at the press of a button, from “comfort” to “track” mode.

The shock absorbers use the same technology as Ferrari, with tiny magnetic particles adjusting the damping forces in milliseconds, enabling the car to better respond to road conditions.

New Continental tyres, which end HSV’s 20-year relationship with Bridgestone, were initially developed for Mercedes-Benz and are said to have achieved an amazing double-act: more grip and longer wear.

Given the raft of new technology and hardware upgrades required to handle the extra power, the new HSV GTS won’t come cheap. It is the second-dearest car to wear a HSV badge since the limited edition HSV W427 V8 sold for $155,500 in 2009.

The new HSV GTS is due on sale mid-year with an RRP of about $95,000 -- but the transaction price will be closer to $100,000 once on-road costs are added. That’s almost triple the cost of a basic Holden Commodore, but less than half as much as its European rivals.

As our computer-illustrated images show HSV has taken a much more conservative approach to the design of the new model. It is unclear whether fans will embrace the change, having grown accustomed to greater visual differentiation between HSVs and Holdens over the past seven years.

The new HSV “Gen F” lacks the twin bonnet vents, the large trapezoidal exhaust tips, the repositioned tail-lights and the prominent blacked-out nose treatments which were signatures of the current line-up. Even the front fender garnishes are the same as those found on the regular VF Commodore, albeit with different finishes (black instead of chrome).

Unusually, HSV will not highlight the GTS output by displaying its power number on the bootlid, as it has done with its flagship model for the past 25 years. Instead of the numbers “430”, the bootlid badge will simply say “LSA”, the code for the Camaro-sourced engine.

HSV has fitted LED tail-lights that are different from those fitted to the standard Commodore, but they occupy the same space -- unlike the bespoke tail-lights on HSV’s VE range which looked dramatically different from the Commodore and were mounted lower. It is understood that it would have been too costly to make changes to the aluminium bootlid.

While there has been widespread speculation about what might power the new HSV range -- given the Commodore’s link to the US Camaro’s underpinnings and its engines -- no-one has to date published more than guesswork.

Contrary to perception, fitting the LSA engine in the Commodore was not a straightforward process. While the supercharged V8 engine was readily available off the shelf, significant upgrades were required to the clutch, gearbox, tailshaft and axles to handle the awesome power. A new heavy-duty differential with extra cooling and extra mounting points had to be developed, as did extra under-body strengthening.

HSV first secretly fitted an LSA engine to a test mule about four years ago, but it was by no means a guarantee that HSV would get the go ahead to build and sell the finished product. HSV had to pass stringent engineering protocols put in place by General Motors head office in Detroit. Having passed all the reliability and durability requirements during the development of the GTS, HSV finally got the green light about 18 months ago.

As with most HSVs built over the past 25 years, the new GTS is built to a partially-complete form alongside regular Commodore models on the Holden production line at Elizabeth near Adelaide. It is then transported to HSV's final assembly area in Clayton near Melbourne, where the performance brakes, tyres, suspension and unique bodywork is fitted.

The 6.2-litre supercharged V8 is fitted on the production line in Adelaide. HSV's previous horsepower hero, the W427 built in 2008 and 2009, had its engine fitted at its Clayton facility. This makes the LSA the most powerful engine to ever be fitted to a car on the Holden production line.

HSV considered offering a detuned version of the LSA engine in a special edition Clubsport, but this was ruled out because of the high cost of the engine, and the extra cost involved in recalibrating a lower power output.

In the end the company decided to keep the LSA exclusive to the GTS where HSV has the best chance of recouping the vehicle’s considerable development cost. Carsguide also understands there will be no further power upgrades to the LSA engine during its four-year run to the end of 2016, when the VF Commodore will bow out to make way for a locally-made four-cylinder front-drive sedan.

The end of rear-drive Commodores is likely to ensure the HSV GTS “Gen F” will become a future collector’s item, given that it is unlikely any locally-made car produced after it will eclipse its power output.

The new HSV GTS “Gen F” was so secret only an inner-circle of senior Holden executives were allowed in the planning meetings over the past four years. The HSV performance car outfit -- a separate business to Holden -- also took unprecedented security measures. Most of its own staff didn’t know it was coming.

Only the designers and engineers who developed the GTS had intimate knowledge of the LSA supercharged V8 engine that would power it. Early HSV prototypes were assembled by hand so they didn’t go along the regular Holden production line. Only in the past few months were a handful of pre-production cars sent down the assembly line in Elizabeth.

But with the unveiling of the new HSV range just around the corner, News Limited has exclusively obtained key data on the most exciting car to ever wear a made-in-Australia stamp.

HSV was able to keep the epic supercharged GTS engine under wraps because it is continuing with the Corvette-based 6.2-litre V8 for the rest of its model line-up, including the Clubsport, Senator and Grange sedans and the Maloo ute.

There will be three engine outputs available from the regular 6.2-litre V8 -- 317kW, 325kW and a new 340kW/570Nm option which achieves its new peak thanks to a high-performance air intake. The 340kW “Performance Pack” will be a $6000 option (paired with unique wheels and other equipment) on the Clubsport R8 sedan and wagon and the Maloo R8 ute, but standard on the Senator and Grange luxury sedans.

Meanwhile 20-inch rims will be standard across the range (HSV didn’t see the need for bigger wheels). The charcoal-finish, multi-spoke, lightweight, forged-alloy 20-inch wheels first seen on last year’s 25th anniversary GTS will become an option across the “Gen F” range.

Six-piston brakes -- with lighter calipers and two-piece rotors for improved cooling -- will be standard on the GTS, but the rest of the range will retain four-piston brakes. Some models have trimmed about 30kg in weight but the GTS weighs about the same as before because of the added heavy-duty hardware.

When News Limited asked HSV to comment on the new line-up the company chose to maintain its silence, saying it doesn’t comment on future model plans.

Even top-level HSV dealers were only just informed about the new model in the past few weeks. They too can’t believe HSV has been able to keep such big news so secret for so long. Thankfully, we’ve been able to piece together this story with their help, more than a month ahead of the official unveiling.

Unfortunately, enthusiasts will need to wait a little longer yet for the mighty GTS. HSV will launch its new Clubsport and Maloo line-up in June but the GTS is not due to start production until August.

Although it is HSV’s intention to maintain the GTS as a regular part of the model range, production will initially be limited, with only about 500 LSAs due to be built in this year’s allocation.

This reporter is on Twitter: @JoshuaDowling

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HSV GTS “GEN F”

Price: $95,000 plus on-roads (approx)
Engine: Supercharged 6.2-litre V8
Power: 430kW and 740Nm
Transmission: Six-speed manual and six-speed automatic
0 to 100km/h: Less than 4.5 seconds

 

GTS technology highlights: Twin-plate clutch, heavy-duty limited-slip differential with extra cooling, five-stage stability control (also adjusts steering and suspension feel). Two-piece brake rotors, lighter brake calipers (six-piston front, four-piston rear on GTS, four-piston front and rear on the rest of the range). Foglights make way for extra cooling and an engine air intake. The weight-saving from the Commodore’s aluminium bonnet, boot and other parts has been offset by the extra weight of the GTS model’s heavy-duty performance equipment, so it weighs about the same as before.

 

RIVALS

 

BMW M5

Price: from $229,500
Engine: Twin turbo 4.4-litre V8
Power: 412kW and 680Nm
Transmission: Seven-speed twin-clutch auto
0 to 100km/h: 4.3 seconds

 

Mercedes-Benz E63

Price: $240,485
Engine: 5.5-litre twin turbo V8
Power: 386kW and 700Nm (upgraded to 430kW/800Nm later this year)
Transmission: Seven-speed twin-clutch auto
0 to 100km/h: 4.3 seconds

 

Porsche Panamera Turbo

Price: $382,400
Engine: 4.8-litre twin turbo V8
Power: 382kW and 700Nm
Transmission: Seven-speed twin-clutch auto
0 to 100km/h: 4.1 seconds

 

Jaguar XF-R

Price: $189,900
Engine: Supercharged 5.0-litre V8
Power: 375kW and 625Nm
Transmission: Eight-speed automatic
0 to 100km/h: 4.9 seconds

 

Ford Falcon GT

Price: $70,790
Engine: Supercharged 5.0-litre V8
Power: 335kW and 570Nm
Transmission: Six-speed manual or six-speed auto
0 to 100km/h: 4.5 seconds

 

Ford Falcon GTHO Phase III (1971)

Price: $5250
Engine: 5.8-litre V8
Power: 280kW and 513Nm
Transmission: Four-speed manual
0 to 100km/h: 6.8 seconds
 

HSV W427 (2008 to 2009)

Price: $155,500
Engine: 7.0-litre V8
Power: 375kW and 640Nm
Transmission: Six-speed manual
0 to 100km/h: 4.7 seconds

 

HSV “GEN F” ENGINE LINE-UP

-- Clubsport: 6.2-litre V8, 317kW and 550Nm
-- Clubsport R8: 6.2-litre V8, 325kW and 550Nm
-- Clubsport R8 Performance Pack: 6.2-litre V8, 340kW and 570Nm
-- Senator: 6.2-litre V8, 340kW and 570Nm
-- Grange: 6.2-litre V8, 340kW and 570Nm
-- Maloo: 6.2-litre V8, 317kW and 550Nm
-- Maloo R8: 6.2-litre, 325kW and 550Nm
-- Maloo R8 Performance Pack: 6.2-litre V8, 340kW and 570Nm
 

Comments on this story

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  • craig you clearly have no idea what you're on about, please put a plastic bag over your head and have a long nap

    actuallyknowsaboutcars of melbourne Posted on 29 January 2014 4:39pm
  • Thank you great story

    jordansfan8i of Germany Posted on 26 January 2014 10:00pm
  • EEEwww butt ugly!! Introducing the new Holden HSV GTS yellow Peril!!! All those Holden tossers out there i look forward to your insults so bring them on!! Thank goodness this will be the last of its kind, cause HSV have lost their way big time with design. Looks like a cross between a Camry and a 1990's Nissan Silvia! They think by bolting on a supercharger they can sell it for $100K in Oz. Only losers will buy this car and will see it's value depreciate at an alarming rate. Should be able to pick up this GTS for 25K in about 10 years or so. They will be a dime a dozen. Reminiscent of the Yellow Peril in Melbourne but on wheels.

    Craig of Melbourne, VIC Posted on 11 December 2013 10:06am
  • if maybe ford sometime soon come up with the idea to up their ante against holden and throw in the 5.8L 493KW 855NM supercharged V8 from the 2013 mustang GT500, might be the answer.

    kimura of melbourne Posted on 09 November 2013 12:56am
  • i think there's too many shooks and naggers out there ,they don't understand what a real performance car really is cause the VF GTS is australia best ever ,i'm not say'n this bcause i'm a holden fan ,i own a holden statesman wh v8 and also own a falcon xr6 turbo both workd with well over 300 rwkws, holden and fords both make top performance cars in their own ways but i have to admit holden has got it over ford on this one with their new VF GTS by the balls no ford turbo or supercharged cars going to save them from the onslaught. Tuan from melbourne

    Tuan of melbourne Posted on 25 September 2013 12:30am
  • I'm impressed buy the engine however the VF looks horrid. I agree in that it shouldn't be compared to a GTHO after all, any Toyota Corolla hatch or Hyundai Accent now days will blow the doors of a GTHO ! E49 Charger smacked the GTHO around so much it wasn't funny. GTHO belonged in another Era so leave it there. I'll just add my 1988 VN would have killled the GTHO too ! While I'm at it, 1977 A9X Torrie would have handed the GTHO's backside to it as well. See the comparison here... all cars made after 1971 and as time marches on with newer technology... today's 4cyl cars will beat a GTHO too. So lets leave the GTHO back in 1971 where it belongs. I'll add one More reference, Ever watched HQ racing ? It was 5 yrs ago these 3pseed manual 202 HQ's were lapping Bathurst 2 seconds faster than the GTHO too. It's called Technology!

    Mr. Magoo of Sydney Posted on 14 September 2013 4:46pm
  • Can't believe all the haters, have actually spent the time to search for this website read up on it and comment on it, clearly its done something right to ruffle all the feathers of the ford lovers out there. Wait till ford doe's this, take the supercharger off blah, blah, blah...... Bunch of winging losers who are clearly upset that Holden have the balls to do something like this when the best ford has come up with is 335kw which I night add is also supercharged ( I believe Michelle I Mean Michael ) Great work HOLDEN !!!!! I like all cars including ford's its just the ford fanatics who haven't a clue

    GC - For Life of GC Posted on 08 July 2013 11:57pm
  • what a weapon..world class eating performance, im looking forward to our new local performance car.. and as for fuel economy..why are we looking at fuel economy when your looking at a 100k car? is another $40 on a fill up going to hurt when you have that sort of dosh to throw at a performance car..lets be realistic, not really...

    Jason of Sydney Posted on 24 May 2013 10:48am
  • damo ,,,such predictable boring moronic comments..

    ccs of melb Posted on 17 May 2013 12:40pm
  • I can not believe you IDIOTS went down that road, "better than a GTHO" Puhlease!!

    Agarn Willo of Australia Posted on 15 May 2013 11:08pm
  • Wow, Holden still producing expensive, inefficient gas guzzlers that know one buys. And they wonder why sales figures have been declining for 10 years. Why are we still subsidising these poorly run manufacturing dinosaurs?

    Damo of Sydney Posted on 15 May 2013 1:24pm
  • Intercooler and a slight tune to the FPV GT and HSV will be playing catch up..... again

    Micheal of Buderim, QLD Posted on 15 May 2013 11:40am
  • Sorry, but HSV will NEVER over the mighty GTHO Phase III, no Australian car will ever take it place regardless of who it's made by.

    Micheal of Buderim, QLD Posted on 15 May 2013 11:36am
  • When I first heard this news, I thought I'm gunna buy it. Now news and pics has been released, I'm thinking I might wait. What if they release an updated version that doesn't look like an ordinary commodore. I think the ve hsv looks far superior to this plain Jane. As for engine, I can't understand why Holden hasn't been doing this for the last 10 years. Personally I haven't been intersted in the hsv line up until now, for example SSv vs clubsport, same car, where is the value in hsv, a few badges, wheels and brakes? About time they deliver a car that we can be excited about, now it's just the looks I can't get excited about. Are they ever going to get it right?

    Cam of Melbourne Posted on 14 May 2013 12:37pm
  • HSV GTS overtakes the iconic Ford Falcon Phase III GTHO as the new king of Australian muscle...yeah right with a ass like that i doubt it.UGLY

    kirk of new zealand Posted on 10 May 2013 5:47pm
  • I'm with you CJ. Why do people bang on about European cars...This brute looks better than those wanky Euro cars, it has a lion on the bonnet and a chook wire grill. Not much more Aussie than that eh! I just love it.

    Mitch.C of Bribie Island Qld Posted on 06 May 2013 3:44pm
  • Because all these greedy car dealers in Australia love to rip us off, simple as that. What other explanation could there be especially when you factor the shipping cost in as well then we should really be paying ~$50000.

    Jav of Melbourne Posted on 02 May 2013 4:38pm
  • It's pretty pathetic and desperate that you ignored the media imbargo until May 15. It's not a right that you were given this information early on, moreover a privelage. I hope they exclude News Limited/Carsguide in any future media releases. What happened to being an honest Australian. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We had the story under embargo from HSV for exactly the time we published it. No embargo was broken. - Carsguide

    Rhys of Brisbane Posted on 02 May 2013 4:32am
  • THAT is about as Ugly as my Cats Coughed Up Hair-Ball with his breakfast yesterday and I am a HSV - VE Series 3 Owner- what a mess of a Camry or Cruise you were given to work with HSV - Motor for the GTS is a screamer and SPOT ON- as for the Body & Face Bland -bland-bland ...Sad sad sad.... Butter Face wink

    Bent Spark Plug of Sunshine Coast QLD Posted on 01 May 2013 7:20am
  • Why we need to pay about two times more for this HSV than the Americans for their version of the same car? HSV LSA = AUD 100000 Camaro LZ1 = AUD 55000 (prices are approximate)

    Mick of Brisbane Posted on 30 April 2013 11:33pm
  • Gee there are a pack of Euro-tossers on here! Tall poppy syndrome if ever I've seen it. GM have created a world class performance vehicle here and we Aussies should be proud. I love our local muscle and our ability to work magic with little resource. This car has plenty of "finesse" when compared to the overpriced imports. You show your ignorance if you say otherwise.

    CJ of Melbourne Posted on 30 April 2013 10:38pm
  • Only took GMH 42 years to catch up to Falcon!

    Twisty of Sydney Posted on 30 April 2013 9:34pm
  • GM stuffed their motor industry insisting on producing Front Wheel Drive platforms, then in turn, turned to Holden for Rear Wheel Drive platforms that most American Car enthusiasts are screaming, now to force Holden to produce their shitty Front Wheel Drive platforms here & drop our beloved Rear Wheel Drive platform!! Way to go GM; ruin OUR Motor Industry by forcing us into FWD Cars. IF we wanted FWD we would buy a bloody Honda or Toyota WANKERS! No wonder America is going down the drain with such backward thinking & then they want to drag us into their sewers to sink with them... FWD = STUPID!! STUPID!! STUPID!! Those of us who take an actual interest in our beloved Aussie Holden's and Ford's DO NOT WANT FRONT WHEEL DRIVE Cars parked in our Garages! Once we are forced into a 4 cylinder FWD Holden Commodore or Ford Falcon the Japanese and Korean Carmakers will reap the benefits of poor judgment on the part of GM here in Australia. GM; have you learnt NOTHING from your past mistakes? IDIOTS! R.I.P the Australian Motor Industry...

    Pigsta Posted on 30 April 2013 7:40pm
  • It is cheap if you remember that people are paying $400k for a GTHO that can get to 100km/hr in 6.8 seconds. not too dissimilar to a current 2 litre turbo falcon that does it in 7.2 seconds for $35k

    Max W. of Maslin Beach SA Posted on 30 April 2013 6:42pm
  • "Most Powerfull cor ever produced" ??? And it would look positively whimpy if Ford were to drop the current (smaller) 5.8L Ford Mustang Shelby Cobra GT500 engine in the GT Falcon - with 494Kw / 856Nm (662Hp/961 ft lb).

    Steve Schmidt of Wollongong Posted on 30 April 2013 4:18pm
  • DOG

    Zeljan of Auckland Posted on 30 April 2013 2:15pm
  • Mid next year should be the "swan song" of the iconic GT, now that manufacturing has returned to Ford. Probably reverting back to the Falcon GT rather than FPV name you would expect it to eclipse GMH in power and will be a collectors must. $100k bargain and a nice little bit of superannuation that I can "toy" with ocassionally!

    andyroos of Ringwood Posted on 30 April 2013 1:52pm
  • IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL CAR it is an artist rendition, whatever thatt means. And JTZ, what are you sure of? Any car sales facts?

    Ben of Australia Posted on 29 April 2013 9:42am
  • no air scoops on bonet!no blck nose very plain car for 100grand! have to look elswhere

    josh h Posted on 29 April 2013 12:51am
  • I think you'll find that Caradvice was ahead of you on this one, although they got the SS being a 6.2-litre wrong... Not really a Carsguide "exclusive" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nope, we had the earlier story you mention as well. The exclusive part related to other (and verified) info. - Ed.

    HSV man Posted on 27 April 2013 1:05pm
  • If this is accurate, then it still looks a bit crass and even more out of place on a $100,000 car than the current style. It may attract the die-hard H

    Foresooth of Canberra Posted on 27 April 2013 12:46pm
  • GM developed the magnetorheostetical shocks used in the Ferrari. They didn't copy it.

    Obviously DaMinority of US Posted on 26 April 2013 10:50pm
  • love it lets give it to the germans hsv for life hope i win lotto because i just want one.

    sami of melbourne Posted on 26 April 2013 8:35pm
  • I have to agree with Ron. That 'something special' has been taken out of the new design.

    Art Posted on 26 April 2013 8:29pm
  • 2.3 secs difference to 100kmh is a lot considering 500kg weight adv to gtho

    Joe of Melbourne of Melbourne Posted on 26 April 2013 8:12pm
  • Dave of Sydney Still imagining that it's 1955. The dream's over, bogan boy.

    Jack of Sydney Posted on 26 April 2013 6:39pm
  • No one would shop a HSV against these Euro's in reality, however its fair to say at $95K this GTS would be one of the best bang for you buck sedans on the planet.

    JDM of Brisbane Posted on 26 April 2013 5:41pm
  • Now the wait for the rival FPV when the new model is finally released. That will be on my collector's list before we see the end of these great Aussie RWD V8's.

    Dan of Brisbane Posted on 26 April 2013 5:38pm
  • ".........but the new HSV GTS is said to accelerate quicker than most Porsches, reaching 0 to 100km/h in “comfortably less” than 4.5 seconds" yeah yeah, but for how long? Easiest thing to do is make a car more powerful. Unfortunately that's what Holden (in this case HSV) has long busied itself doing instead of lots of other things it SHOULD have been doing. Still, I suppose faced with losing their common or garden car they have to sell an expensive niche model to make some money from the product. Still can't see "finesse" figuring in Holden's future but I guess the intended demographic basically appreciates acceleration times and oomph

    stevecro of innerwest Posted on 26 April 2013 5:22pm
  • Not sure how many buyers are out there that will part with $95,000 + for a Commodore.

    JTZ of Melbourne Posted on 26 April 2013 4:19pm
  • I was really hoping HSV would be able to design some drama around the sloppy looking new headlights. Unfortunately not. I read Holden chief designer, Mike Smith, said the design philosophy for the VF had changed from geometric to curves. Congratulations Mike, you've put Holden design back in the 90's and made the Commodore look as common as your surname. American enthusiast reaction to the design of the Chevy SS has been one of horror at the blandness. Many who were waiting to update their G8 GT's have decided to hold on to their better looking G8's. No doubt the HSV GTS will be the biggest bang for your performance buck and highly capable, hampered only by it's tired "Smithy" look.

    Ron Posted on 26 April 2013 12:22pm
  • I heard carbon ceramic brakes off the corvette were going to be an option. also that com gen image will not be accurate. Will have proper aero aids and most definitely a diffuser style rear bumper. even i can photo shop some go fast bits and ss front and rear on a ve hsv.

    jordan of clayton Posted on 26 April 2013 12:00pm
  • I hope we see all the Chev SS specs and options available on the HSV GTS. Especially carbon-ceramic brakes, they will be a near necessity if you exploit the peformance of the supercharged V8 engine. Are they going to make a GTS Wagon?

    MaxSteele of Brisbane Posted on 26 April 2013 11:22am
  • i beg to differ that any of those cars you mentioned are a rival for this thing.

    greggyf of Tumbarumba Posted on 26 April 2013 11:00am
  • So in 42 years from the 1971 GTHO to the new GTS the time difference to 100kmh is only 2.3 secs not a lot in my book, and the new GTS even has bolt on horsepower ie supercharger the GTHO did its time without this bolt on crap. Take of the supercharger/turbos and then compare times

    Michael of Melbourne Posted on 26 April 2013 10:33am
  • wow nice !!

    Dion Mouzakis of Melbourne Posted on 26 April 2013 10:14am
  • aww i just want one

    Hsv driver of Fishermans Bend Posted on 26 April 2013 10:12am
  • Joshua Dowling, you say "HSV GTS overtakes the iconic Ford Falcon Phase III GTHO as the new king of Australian muscle, on sale August priced about $100,000" What does that even mean? What relevance does an old 1960's Falcon have with this article about a 2013 Commodore? Absolutely none. You say "Carsguide also understands there will be no further power upgrades to the LSA engine during its four-year run to the end of 2016, when the VF Commodore will bow out to make way for a locally-made four-cylinder front-drive sedan." Where did you hear this? It sounds like rumour-milling to me.

    Dave of Sydney Posted on 26 April 2013 10:08am
  • Yes Joshua you surely know your stuff. V8 Supercars are running up to 650hp now. They were running 600hp about 15 years plus years ago. Great research

    V8 fan of GC Posted on 26 April 2013 9:41am
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