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Ford answers the questions

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Carsguide put questions to Ford about the public?s concerns. Here?s what president Marin Burela said.

1. CarsGuide has received many letters about recurrent customer problems with the Territory's front end, specifically ball joint failures (excessive wear to the point of failure). What are your findings on this?

A: We are aware of a small number of customers with ball joint issues which, on investigation, were found to be due to excessive wear and, in some cases, damage related. Most cases were found during the course of routine service and dealt with before any issue arose. Our engineering and service teams are continuing to actively monitor and investigate any incident identified in the field.

2. Carsguide understands this has been known about even during Territory's development. Is this right?

A: Our vehicles are subject to an extremely rigorous development process that exceeds global industry standards and which includes sophisticated CAD and CAE modelling, continued component development, on-road testing (both at our proving ground and on public roads over a variety of surfaces), and a comprehensive engineering review and sign-off process. The Territory ball joints passed this process successfully.

3. The updated Territory gets a new front suspension design. What has changed and has this fixed the problem?

A: In the automotive business it is normal practice to share technology and design changes across multiple product lines. This is normal and good business practice. A new design application for the virtual pivot front suspension was implemented for the FG Falcon in 2008 and Territory received that new suspension design with the recent launch of the SY Mark II. Our process of continual development often sees new technologies developed for either Falcon or Territory that then make their way onto the other vehicle at the appropriate time in the model cycle. One example of this was the introduction of Dynamic Stability Control on Territory when it first launched in 2004 - this technology was then applied to Falcon at the next model update in 2005. This continued development and sharing of technologies reduces production complexity and allows for shared technology across vehicle lines. Specifically, the new virtual pivot front suspension has altered the design application from a tension joint to a compression joint.

4. Brake hose failures. There has been a recall on Territory but what about BA/BF Falcons?

A: The Territory front brake recall is to rectify an issue that is Territory-specific. Despite a very low expected incident rate of only 1.5 per cent and the fact that Territory features a dual, independent braking system that provides braking performance from the rear in case of any issue with the front brakes (as does Falcon), Ford proactively recalled all Territory vehicles in order to ensure the safety and peace-of-mind of our customers. We are investigating a small number of incidents with Falcon front brake hoses although the root cause is yet to be determined. We are continuing to w ork with our dealers and other automotive repairers to gather data.

5. Brake hose failures - there is a dealer alert on rear brake hoses for BA/BF Falcon sedans but not Utes and wagons, why not?

A: Utes and wagons feature a different design for the brake hoses and as a result the service campaign for BA/BF sedan rear hoses does not apply to them.

6. Paint. Carsguide has fielded reports of peeling 'shockwave blue' paint on BF Falcons. How many are affected? Is this actually a problem?

A: We are working with the supplier of our Shockwave paint and have repainted those vehicles that have experienced an issue with no cost for the repair to the customer.

7. Rust. There are reports of rusting on Territory where the paint is thin. Have you had complaints about this? Has the new Territory fixed this?

A: We are aware of a small number of customers, primarily from coastline areas, who have experienced corrosion, which is cosmetic in nature. Where necessary, those cases are being repaired. It is not a broad problem.

8. Customer satisfaction. Are you happy with the efforts of the Customer Relationship Centre in its role to liaise with owners about their cars?

A: We regularly monitor customer satisfaction across all areas of our business. The results for our Customer Relationship Centre continue to be very strong. We are confident that the CRC has the resources required to liaise with our customers to deliver a positive brand experience.

9. The recent JD Power quality satisfaction survey found that Ford's "dealer service" category has slipped 15 points since last year's survey. Is there a problem with dealers?

A: Ford strongly believes that we have one of the best dealer groups in Australia. Our dealers are committed to working closely with us as we continually develop all aspects of our collective businesses. The JD Power survey has such a low sample size that is it difficult to quantify those results and compare them with other industry satisfaction surveys.

10. Reputation. Collectively, are these problems harming Ford's hard-fought reputation?

A: Ford is one of the most respected companies in Australia with 85 years of dedicated commitment to delivering outstanding vehicles across all market segments, which has been endorsed by numerous third party commendations and awards. Our reputation is of the utmost importance to us, which is one reason we invested significant resources to becoming the first Australian car company to achieve a 5-star safety rating for our Falcon sedan range. We are committed to doing the right thing by our customers and will continue to do so long into the future.

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  • I have a BA Falcon and at 75000km has had the diff repaired 3 times in barely 12 months!!! Thankfully we had paid the extra $800+ to extend the original warranty and so it was covered... however the dealer wiped their hands of continuing to repair this problem after it's last repair - what's with that? I am a mid 30's mother of 2 very young children with a great driving history, and if anything have been commended for my driving ability by my passengers - don't see how my driving could be causing this recurrent problem!?!? Did I mention that on one occasion they had run up 80km in 'testing the problem' (no compensation for petrol either!), and on another occassion it was up to me to drive it to the other side of Brisbane to the Diff Mechanic that Ford had used - and I had a young toddler with me and was very obviously pregnant! On calling Ford Head Office was told they could help me and my only option was to deal with the branch repairing my vehicle! So you can imagine what I think of Ford! If mechanic savy men are having problems when dealing with Ford imagine how of a struggle it is for women!!!!

    B of Brisbane Posted on 06 June 2011 4:08pm
  • To Laurence R of Brissie...Facts are that we are not talking about an occasional fault here and my family won't get killed if Win XP crashes.

    JP of Central VIC Posted on 04 July 2009 2:26pm
  • Bagging holden v ford or vice versa is the last thing on my mind. My top priority is the safety of whoever drives the car i buy. The ford boss, as also Ford cust care do very well, is swindle there way out of their obligation to repair well known faulty cars.The Ford boss says he cares about the customer, well fix the faults don't give us the usual spin. Yes parts wear, but the balljoint has been replaced by the thousands, under warranty if you have it, or big dollars if you dont. Remember this car (Territory) is only 5 years old, for the most part all these failures are happening under 65000k. My terri has only 56000 on the clock but out of warranty by age. I've had failures starting at the tender age of 5000k and more ever since...Knuckle joint, 2 Control arm/ball joint, Elec window, Brake lines, Radiator and hesitation when throttle applied. To the misguided, would you be happy to pay if your engine or trans or diff or brakes etc "wore out" at 60000k, i think not. Is a worn rearcontrol arm knuckle joint replaced at 5000k fair wear, or is it coincidence that both front balljoints at 52000k need to be replaced urgently according to ford dealer. Get real Marin.

    Jim Peters of Central VIC Posted on 02 July 2009 10:17pm
  • Gold Coast Ford Dealerships are just as bad having owned a BA GHIA and BA Futura the amount of trouble I have had with ford service and the amount of money I have spent having my cars serviced there is beyond madness - As I write this the Futura has been in service for the last 7 days and is still currently in there (fault on the dealers behalf not mine or the car) - On to the quality issue and everything that went wrong on my BA GHIA is now repeating itself in the Futura - You dont have to look far on the net or ask around that much to find out that these problems are far more common than one might think - Deffinately not biased reporting at all on carsguides behalf

    R G of Gold Coast Posted on 02 July 2009 9:39pm
  • Ford make some great cars in Australia - and by my experience Ford dealer service makes you wonder why you bought one - I live in hope of better - I've had 3 (BA Ghia, BA MkII XR & BF Ghia) and it has just been painful getting things sorted with the car often coming back with more problems than it went in with - maybe this is just Brisbane dealers - for Ford and all it's workers I hope so. BTW I think it's good that this site asks the questions and gives Ford folk a chance to respond - at least that way we get their side of the story.

    Brian M of Brisbane Posted on 02 July 2009 7:13am
  • Ford make some great cars in Australia - and by my experience Ford dealer service makes you wonder why you bought one - I live in hope of better - I've had 3 (BA Ghia, BA MkII XR & BF Ghia) and it has just been painful getting things sorted with the car often coming back with more problems than it went in with - maybe this is just Brisbane dealers - for Ford and all it's workers I hope so. BTW I think it's good that this site asks the questions and gives Ford folk a chance to respond - at least that way we get their side of the story.

    Brian M of Brisbane Posted on 02 July 2009 12:55am
  • One Fords biggest issues I find is end user support at a local level... I don't even bother with my local dealer anymore, haven't bothered since my 60000klms service. I have a Shockwave Blue DevilR Falcon and have had the same issue with the paint. Took Ford here 8 Months to solve the issue, three resprays because they refused to use a PPG spray painter to match the paint and they damaged the passengers side door while they had it. Now the paint on the boot lid is doing the same thing and I grimace at the thought of getting it sorted. Ford needs to put the boot into thier dealer network to start looking after the end user or they will never get customers back...

    Mark Craigie of Mackay Qld Posted on 01 July 2009 10:42pm
  • We bought an 08 plated 7 seater Territory in January 09 this year from Coffey Ford in Dandenong, the car has been running as reliably as anyone could have expected so far, Fuel consumption is about 13.5l/100km, considering we only drive short distances and in traffic generally, I can't complain, It's a lovely vehicle to drive and to have for our family requirements, we also have own an 04 Toyota Camry from new,It also has been as reliable able as could be expected from a new car. To Cars Guide staff, I second J. M of Sydney comments.

    Bruno of Edeavour Hills. Posted on 01 July 2009 9:18pm
  • Even if your ford or holden does have a fault it will be onehell of alot cheaper to fix than an imported brand, and if you think they don't have faults think again! Buy australian made, support australian jobs!!!

    Johnno of Echuca Posted on 01 July 2009 9:21am
  • Carsguide lets do a similar story on Holden recalls. Should take about 5 years to read.

    D.A of Adelaide Posted on 30 June 2009 5:52pm
  • Yeah all carsguide writers have been given a new monaro as a bribe to write crap about Ford

    Martin krollig of Adelaide Posted on 30 June 2009 5:24pm
  • Is it going to take both Holden and Ford going bankrupt for them to learn how to make cars that are even half the quality of the Japanese equivelants. The Falcon and Territory are both rubbish cars that don't perform well in any measure of motoring ie, build quality, breaking, handling, balance, ride. But hey it will all be solved with a bigger V8 and then a bigger V8 again (why does it take a 6 litre V8 to do what Mitsubishi can do with a 2 litre turbo).

    buyadecentcar Posted on 30 June 2009 3:43pm
  • There are not many things manufactured which do not have the occasional fault. All I can say is thank god cars are not made by Microsoft...

    Laurence R of Brisbane Posted on 30 June 2009 1:22pm
  • More ford bashing from cars guide - get over it cars guide lets get some real reporting like the new V8's being planned for falcon and possiblity of GTHO 351 in 2011 - biased disgusting reporting that will only serve to hurt australian industry that is unfounded how many car recalls happen each year how good is the ford product range currently... we bore of this and will have to go to alternative sources for interesting reading...

    J. M of Sydney Posted on 30 June 2009 12:06pm
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