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E10 fuel compatibility

  • By Graham Smith
  • Herald Sun
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    The move to E10 is being driven by a need to cut greenhouse gas emissions, but it also reduces our dependence on fossil fuels.

Many car owners are living in fear that their cars will grind to a halt when E10 petrol replaces regular unleaded next year, but the future is not as dire as some predict.

New South Wales will become the first state to outlaw regular unleaded petrol, leaving owners of cars using the 91-octane unleaded no choice but to use the E10 ethanol blend fuel.

The law in NSW already requires fuel companies to blend four per cent ethanol in the regular unleaded they produce, and that will rise to six per cent on January 1, 2011 before going to 10 per cent on July 1 next year.

While New South Wales is leading the charge to cleaner, greener ethanol blend fuel it is expected other states will follow suit.

Queensland has indicated it plans to move to an E10 blend next January, but is yet to finalize the required legislation for the move. The Victorian government, meanwhile, has said it is planning a similar switch, but has not yet indicated when it might do so.

At this point in time NSW is only replacing regular unleaded petrol with E10, a blend of 10 per cent ethanol with 90 per cent unleaded petrol, leaving owners the option of running their cars on the more expensive Premium unleaded or the even higher priced 98-octane unleaded fuels currently available.

If the timing of the switch is still uncertain in some states, one thing that is clear is that motorists are facing an ethanol-powered future and the effect on some of the cars they're now driving, particularly the older ones, is still to be determined.

The move to use ethanol in petrol is being driven by a need to cut our greenhouse gas emissions, but it also has the important effect of reducing our dependence on fossil fuels, which are said to be running out.

Along the way the shift will also help Australia's balance of trade, given that more than half of the oil and gas we use is imported and adds some $17 billion to our trade deficit with predictions that it could go as high as $30 billion by 2020.

Unlike oil ethanol is a renewable fuel, currently made locally from waste products such as sugar cane, waste from starch production, red sorghum, with other feedstocks being developed for future use.

While all that is laudable it doesn't answer the very real questions motorists have about the effect of ethanol on their cars. For starters ethanol has a higher octane rating than regular unleaded, generally running at 94-95 octane against the 91 of the outgoing regular unleaded.

As a result owners may notice an improvement in the performance of their cars when using E10, but they might also see a slight increase in fuel consumption, by one to three per cent, according to the Biofuels Association of Australia. But that is more than compensated for by the lower price of E10 at the pump.

But the current fears of owners are being fed by past reports of cars having had issues with corrosion and damage to rubber seals and gaskets when run on ethanol. The corrosion concern has been addressed by the requirement to add a corrosion inhibitor to the ethanol, leaving open the question of the effect on seals in the fuel system.

BP has come out and said that cars manufactured after 1986 and using regular unleaded can switch to its E10 fuel without a problem. The oil company says that it has sold more than 100 million litres of E10 in Australia since 2000 and has not had a single complaint. So confident is it that BP backs its claim that E10 will not cause any problems with a guarantee. Other oil companies are expected to make similar claims about their own fuels, and are expected to have their own guarantees to ease the fears of motorists.

While BP says that cars made after 1986 will be fine on E10 owners should consult the FCAI website, which has a comprehensive guide to E10 compatibility of most cars on the road.

Virtually all cars sold in Australia in the past two years or so won't have any problems running on E10, so too will the majority of cars built after 1986. But cars built before 1986, and that covers the vast fleet of classics on the road, are best not run on ethanol. They are the ones most likely to suffer problems with rubber seals and gaskets.

The best option for owners of those cars in the medium term is to run Premium unleaded of the higher 98-octane unleaded and use an additive for valve protection.

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  • people "might also see a slight increase in fuel consumption...But that is more than compensated for by the lower price of E10 at the pump" what a load of garbage. In the few places regular unleaded is still available there is only a 2c/L price difference. Given that ethanol only has 2/3 the energy of petrol and e10 is 10% ethanol it should be AT LEAST 5c/L cheaper based on current prices around the $1.45-$1.55/L mark. And as others have mentioned, ethanol ISN'T pollution free, a huge amount of energy is needed to produce it. The electricity used in producing ethanol is still mostly from fossil fuels.

    John of Gosford Posted on 26 April 2012 4:18am
  • Since 10% of the petrol comes from byproducts, why aren't we given a significant discount? Taking bones out of other people's garbage is easier than digging a hole to find fossils (see what i did there).

    Dave of Sydney Posted on 22 April 2012 9:23pm
  • I put e10 in my mothers 5.5 litre v8 mercedes benz and it was drinking it very quickly and the motor didn't like it at all and i have seen some people fill up mercedes benz up with regular unleaded and that over time will damage the engine and they should only use 95 or 98 octain unleaded and that is with all europian petrol cars because in europe unleaded regular is 95 and premium is 98 octain and my perrents had to have a motor rebuilt in there mercedes benz rebuilt back in the early 1990's by using the 91 octain unleaded and the car was a 3.0 litre strait six cylinder with 60,000 km and the price of the getting the motor rebuilt cost thousands and it got covered by insurance and it isn't a nice look to see your mercedes benz with out a motor under the bonnet and use only the fuel octain that they say in the owners manual and some cars have it in the flap written inside where the fuel hose goes.

    Sean Posted on 25 March 2012 6:09pm
  • I drive a 1993 Ford courier 4x4 2.6 efi, and for the last 4 years 99% of the time i only used e10 fuel. I found that my economy increased and the vehicle had more get up. i had more problems with reg unleaded, than i did with e10

    Craig Johnson of Coffs Harbour Posted on 30 May 2011 8:06pm
  • E10 in this country is a by-product of the refining process and not derived from crops or other organic materials. What a con the whole thing is and for the Gov to be writing legislation on advice from the oil companies is just shameful but typical.

    Bernie Mac of Sydney Posted on 25 May 2011 5:59pm
  • There are so many misleading information in these comments. Search the internet for information about ethanol blend fuel yourself. Especially in the area of how ethanol affects our environment and health. Make your own judgement.

    Kevin Pierce of Melbourne Posted on 22 April 2011 12:47pm
  • I have a 2001 Daewoo Nubira will it run on E10 fuel

    K Burke of Narooma 2546 Posted on 08 April 2011 2:44pm
  • This article is a falsehood. Blending Ethanol in fuel will NOT reduce environmental impact because you have to consume a significant amount of fossil fuels to produce the stuff in the first place. Ethanol is not as energy dense as Petroleum so you are burning MORE fossil fuels for LESS energy, so you are actually doing more harm to the environment. As usual the government has gone for what looks good to a nieve public as opposed to performing proper research & coming up with a viable solution.

    Joseph of Sydney Posted on 08 April 2011 2:21pm
  • This is the main reason my next car will be a diesel.

    mick of grafton nsw aus Posted on 06 April 2011 6:04pm
  • I have a Ford Laser 2001 and it is listed as NOT to be run on ethernol.In 12 months what will I be able to run it on as all fuel is supposed to be E10. I won't be able to sell it, so do I just send it to the wrecker and buy a new car, perhaps the Prime Minister will give me the money to replace it.

    Clive Durham of Grenfell NSW 2810 Posted on 18 March 2011 11:47am
  • I have complained loudly to to gov't, NRMA, Choice fuel companies etc but get the same nonsense answers. The fuel companies have been robbing country motorists blind for a year or so on NOT stocking 91 unleaded fuels on major highway stations and many busier ones in the cities.Forcing you to buy premium fuel at much higher than usual premium prices when unleaded was still and should be available at all stations. The benefits are debatable (unless you are a rich ethanol producer). I tried to get info from Nissan about what I can do about my 2003 X trail to make it compliant and ran into a brick wall.Utterly hopeless & meaningless dribble.Nissan you suck.Obviously you know what I can do but refuse to tell OWNERS of your vehicles.I have a 17 year old ford that can use E10 surely the clowns at Nissan can tell me why the X trail cannot!

    Peter Armour of sydney Posted on 08 March 2011 2:51pm
  • What will we use in our lawn mowers in 2011. My local shop said not to use E10 or Premium ULP.

    James Wood of Sydney Posted on 16 December 2010 11:02am
  • Ethanol is taxed at the same rate as petrol but produces about 66% of the power. This is equivalent to paying 50% more tax to get the same power from ethanol. One litre of petrol gives 35 MJ energy and tax is 38 cents One litre of ethanol gives 21 MJ energy and tax is 38 cents One and a half litres of ethanol gives 32 MJ of energy and tax is 57 cents Tax gain to goverment from 10% ethanol instead of 100% petrol exceeds $25 million per year. As far as I can make out the benefit to the Ozzie driver is less fuel economy and more engine wear and harder sub-freezing start plus, of course, a possible minute undetectable reduction in global warming or a possible minute undetectable increase in global warming.

    Dan of Woy Woy Posted on 25 November 2010 11:48pm
  • Well up-front we are being ripped off. Most Servo?s no longer sell the 95 Octane? So if the plan was to remove the standard unleaded, why are we now forced to either use E10 with a whole bunch of concerns and questions or go up to the 98 which is premium and really should only be for high-performance engines and costs heaps more? And god-help us if the rest of Australia is following NSW Govt lead on this, everything they?ve ever done has been stuffed up and I can see a big red flag about this already! My suggestion get in contact with vehicle manufacturer and there is also a website that lists cars vs E10 use. I?m also going to ping NRMA here in NSW as to how 95 is now disappearing as well as the standard unleaded? They are supposed to represent the motorist!

    FlameThrower of Sydney Posted on 13 October 2010 4:24pm
  • I bought a 97 Holden Rodeo for the purpose of delivering mail as a contractor for Aust Post. Not knowing any better, I used Shell E10 for the first 10 weeks, mainly because it was the cheapest, and I had been using it in my other vehicle (a Honda HR-V) without problems. I was disappointed from the start with the performance of the Holden. - It was lacking in overall performance, and when it came to hills it was very very flat. Last week I changed over to Shell V power, and immediately performance improved, to the extent that I am now completing my run in much less time than I had been regularly achieving. I have not yet taken the trouble to work out actual cost differences, and litres/100km, but the time I am now saving, by the much improved performance is worth heaps. - I am saving at least 5 hours, and up to 7 hours per week of my time. I would appreciate any comments from other drivers who have had similar experiences.

    John English of Green Point NSW 2428 Posted on 27 September 2010 9:48pm
  • The statement above that it works out cheaper is untrue in my experience. I've just done trials with four tanks of Woolies E10 followed by four tanks of straight unleaded in the same general running conditions around Canberra. Unleaded gave me 8.3L/100 whilst E10 gave me 8.7L/100. With a 3cent price differential at $1.20/L that works out to be a COST INCREASE of 2.2%. Not much I agree but a consistent increase nevertheless. Performance seemed about the same with both fuels.

    Stephen of Canberra Posted on 13 September 2010 1:49pm
  • Ethanol is a much better automotive future when compared to electric and hybrid cars. If you car doesn't work on E10, then it's time to either get it converted or upgrade.

    Jordan of PMQ Posted on 11 September 2010 9:01am
  • There is a major problem with this plan, for example, my parents have a Subaru Forrester, which when they asked Subaru when they moved to Queensland (e10 was available there but not in Vic at the time) Subaru told them not to use it at all, and no damage would be covered under warranty. Also once regular unleaded is banned, do you think the 'discount' that is applied to e10 to encourage people to buy it will remain in place? I don't, once there is no 'regular' fuel to compare the price too, it will increase to the old regular unleaded price.

    Dale of Bendigo Posted on 07 September 2010 3:48pm
  • My understanding from when working in research in this area is that it actually takes more energy to produce the ethanol than is contained in the ethanol. So using ethanol is actually costing energy and the environment. Reducing weight, better aero, low rolling resistance tyres, etc, etc are all better than this farce.

    Bill of Qld Posted on 05 September 2010 10:29pm
  • Downside to E10 More cancer based emissions into the air (you are burning sugar) Lower fuel economy, my car 580-600km using reg unleaded. 450 ? 500km using E10 Car has lower power and runs rougher when started in cold weather. Let?s use the plants to feed people and not end up like Brazil with heaps of other types of pollution from the ethanol fuel and a higher cancer rate. Don?t just believe the CSR?s of this world who want to sell you their product. We need to do some more homework first! This may be the new Asbestos of the future and there are many other alternatives already, which are cleaner. Hindsight can be a wonderful thing thats why we have the climate problems we have now!

    Graham of Melbourne Posted on 31 August 2010 1:17pm
  • And how about lawn mowers? - my 10 year old with Briggs & Stratton motor simply will not work with E10 and I know of other makes with different engines having the same problem. Amre we all supposed to get a new mower when we run out on ethanol-free petrol? Shares in mower manufacturers anyone?

    Martin of NSW Posted on 30 August 2010 4:41pm
  • Some cars have a sticker on the inside of the petrol flap indicating whether the car is suited to run E10; my VZ Commodore does. I have noticed though that 95 Octane petrol seems to be disappearing from some Shell servo's and being replaced by Diesel at the pumps, so if you don't want to put E10 in your car when 92 unleaded is phased out, you will be forced to pump the top of the range 98 octane juice.

    Miles of Essendon Posted on 30 August 2010 3:36pm
  • Using E10 on a motor not designed for it, is the same as running it as a lean burn which can destroy your engine. Also a slight fuel usage increase is laughable. I ran 2 tanks on straight unleaded and got 600k per tank. on E10 for two tanks I got 315ks so you figures are crap. So if you work out the cost of doing a trip i is like a hidden price rise both on fuel and maintenance.

    me Posted on 30 August 2010 10:13am
  • God save us from useless politicians intent on sticking their noses into things they don't understand. This move is not so much one that forces you to use E10, but one that forces you to use premium unleaded - and that may just be the real intention of the government's move. Leaving aside the fact that using E10 can actually damage your car, it just doesn't make sense economically. For those of us who can see past the slight price advantage of E10, using E10 will cause you to use more fuel, wiping out that price advantage. In all probability it will cost you more to run your car on E10 than it would to run it on standard unleaded. If the government is serious it needs to increase the price advantage of E10 (that is, drop the price) so that at least you don't waste money by using it.

    John Posted on 29 August 2010 3:47pm
  • This article is incorrect about the current law that all regular unleaded containing 4% ethanol. The law is actually 4% of standard grade fuel sold must be ethanol. For example, if they sell 100 litres of E10 and then 150 litres of Regular unleaded (no ethanol), you have 10 liters of ethanol for 250 litres of fuel, which is 4% of the total.

    Jeff of Wollongong Posted on 29 August 2010 3:20pm
  • I have a 1996 Jeep Cherokee, when feed it E10.it intermittently looses power and only by vigorously pumping the throttle does it get me home. When I change back to normal unleaded there is no problem. Question, If I use BP E10 will they give me a new motorcar?

    Paul Malley of Maryborough Posted on 28 August 2010 10:11pm
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