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Chinese cars lift safety

  • By Paul Gover
  • Herald Sun
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    Although official ANCAP results for the Great Wall SUV have not yet been released, Australian importer Rick Hull of Ateco Automotive is 'very confident'.

Chinese cars are about to get a safety boost with the country's first four-star crash-test score.

The result is achieved in Australia by a family SUV produced by the Great Wall brand and the score ties the four-star effort of the locally-made Toyota Camry hybrid.  Both are short of the maximum five-star rating of the Holden Commodore and Ford Falcon, but the Great Wall result is a massive improvement on the paltry two-star rating achieved last year by the brand's four-door ute in Australian New-Car Assessment Program tests.

The official ANCAP results for the Great Wall SUV and Camry hybrid will not be made public for another week but the four-star performance is already common knowledge in the motor industry.

"It is too early to comment, but we are very confident," the head of the Great Wall importer, Rick Hull of Ateco Automotive, told the Herald-Sun today in China.

Hull is leading a group of journalists on a visit to Great Wall, as well as the Chery brand - which Ateco will also import from later this year - and the Auto China show in Beijing at the end of this week.  He believes Chinese cars are improving rapidly and the crash-test result shows Great Wall's commitment to safety. Journalists will see the Great Wall safety facility and its crashlab this week as one of the keys to understanding the brand and its sales plans for Australia.

"They had engineers at the original ute test by ANCAP and have been working very hard since. We know the work they have done beefing up the chassis of the SUV and it will flow into the utes," Hull said.

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  • The average driver does about 20-25k a year..Thats my average.

    Wazza of Beautifull South Aust Posted on 17 May 2010 12:20pm
  • Holden mad, shut up!!

    Ben Kent of melbourne Posted on 29 April 2010 4:59am
  • Shaun one minute you say they go bang with 50k on the clock, now you agree it's isolated. I'm confused which one is it?????? Anyone that has done 50k within 7 mths of release has not looked after the car that well. That equals nearly 4 years of driving based on 15k per year. With the service intervals at 12 mths or 15k, I don't think the average joe would realise that during this time they would have had to service the car 3 times and on to the fourth, with in 7 mths of it's life, the car was only realesed then.This is more than likley the problem, and not the manufacturers.

    Holden mad of Brighton Vic Posted on 27 April 2010 1:05pm
  • No worries Jason, if I find out anything I'll let ya know. But yeah, I agree with you on that it's probably a very isolated issue.

    shaun Posted on 22 April 2010 2:28pm
  • Yeah I'm with you there. I hear they are looking to up the ante for 5 star and make it the next level up. I don't know if it will be 6 star or just a harder criteria. If you get any info on the cause of those failures I would be interested. As an inherent fault in an engine design is just not realistic these days as they test these things for so much time. But it's not entierly uncommon for a batch of parts to be faulty, poor casting, contamination. The interseting part would be how large are the batches as to how many engines it affects.

    jason of melb Posted on 22 April 2010 10:47am
  • Either way Jase, it's funny that such a little thing can add that extra star. But thinking about it now, is 5 stars really enough?

    shaun Posted on 21 April 2010 7:18pm
  • Not sure what the problem ism I'm no mechanic... but I know what's right and what's not... and that engine didn't look healthy at all. Like I said, a Holden employee showed me, I wasn't aware the battery was leaking down the engine too. I know in some cases it rusted through the battery shelf, and in some extreme circumstances even through the metal body work underneath that. I have been to the Fishermans Bend/Port Melb plant many times. I always drool over the Camaro's they have sitting around there!

    shaun Posted on 21 April 2010 6:49pm
  • Shaun, the ANCAP is score based so the car qualified for 5 star on points but there are some stipulations. They must complete the side pole test, they must have ESP and the seat belt warning to be awarded the 5 star rating. They have many more - I dont know them all - they are there as they can't test for passive safety in a crash test, only the structure of the car. That's why the simple switch can change the safety rating when the actual crash preformance is the same.

    jason of melb Posted on 21 April 2010 5:51pm
  • I haven't heard of any myself but that would be a worry if it is the case. Sre they of a certin batch and what is causing the failures? A complete catastrophic and instantanious engine failure is very strange for any manufacturer. I'm gonna have a snoop and see if i can find any.

    jason of melb Posted on 21 April 2010 5:42pm
  • Exactly what was the problem? You still haven't given a description (detailed) as to what this Holden employee showed you. Or was it a dealer? I will point out that they don't work for Holden, they work for the dealer. You and your wisdom would not be able to get in to the plant. I will fill in the blanks, it was the battery that may have ate into the side of the engine, we had a case. So I do know what I'm talking about, and I can cop that on the chin. When talking about reliability issues surrounding the engine, it is my belief that you were not shown the car. Your starting to sound like get smart talking to control. Would you beleve a girl guide and two wild dogs?

    Holden mad of Brighton Vic Posted on 21 April 2010 5:15pm
  • Jason, i believe they are the petrol engines.

    shaun Posted on 21 April 2010 2:32pm
  • How am i uninformed? i was just giving an example of how something so small can increase the car from 4 to 5 stars, and you even backed up me up by giving another example. no the 3 engines where shown to me, after a HOLDEN EMPLOYEE pointed it out to me.and it wasn't me who asked to have you stopped.

    shaun Posted on 21 April 2010 2:10pm
  • Dear cars guide, I 2nd sean t's motion.

    shaun Posted on 21 April 2010 11:31am
  • I have once again your uninformed Shaun, they same thing happened to the commodore with the seat belt warning light or don't you check these things. I have also spoken to the engineers at holden, they have NOT herd any such thing about the engin in the cruze that your crapping on about. The only thing was some of the faulty batteries that where crushed by the robot, had leaked down the sides of the engins, MAYBE that's what you saw. You sound like the fully sick chick on utube. After all they are the ones that pay for the warranty work to be carried out, and NOT you. PS have a sook would you like some cleanex tissue's ( please stop holden mad) are you 5 years old, If you can't handle the heat get the $#^# out of the kitchen. If your cracks are true I would gladley cop it on the chin, but when you talk crap, that's another story

    Holden mad of Brighton Vic Posted on 21 April 2010 11:04am
  • no seatbelt warning excluded the car from a 5 star rating not the additon of one elevating it to a 5 star rating. odd that the cruze engines are failing as you described are these the petrol or diesel ones. this engine has been around for a while now

    jason of melb Posted on 21 April 2010 11:02am
  • Huh? My crappy hybrid Camry? What are you on about? Anyways... if a seat belt warning light can raise a car from 4 to 5 stars (Territory) then I really think the whole ANCAP rating system needs to be looked at. Speaking of explosions, what's your thought on the many Cruzes that have had engine failure at as low as 50k on the clock? And by engine fauilure I mean engine going 'bang'! And before you say I'm talking shit, I've seen 3 engines with the internals in bits.

    shaun Posted on 21 April 2010 9:38am
  • Dear CarsGuide, Can you please stop those comments from Holden mad, they sound un-educated to me.

    sean t Posted on 20 April 2010 10:30pm
  • Hey Wazza just wait and see the hand grenade I just dropped on Toyota you will laugh. Oh what a feeling!!!!, Hey Shaun you like facts, you will see?????????? right now the cars guide will be checking to make sure I'm right. they blocked the blogs where I made the comment. Sucks to be you Toyota (Lexus)

    Holden mad of Brighton Vic Posted on 20 April 2010 2:31pm
  • only 2 airbags 4 star my butt, Hey Shaun it has the same safety rating as your crappy hybrid Camry. What do they say on the add again (class leading tech) ha. As for this bit of dog doodoo, just remember one thing when contemplating this car. You kids don't have a choice about picking the safest car, you do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just like the great wall of china, from a distance it looks fantastic. It's only when you walk it that you see it's falling apart. The name suits this car.

    Holden mad of Brighton Vic Posted on 20 April 2010 12:32pm
  • I reckon Australia should ban any imported car that cannot acheive a 5***** safety rating.....Enough said.

    Wazza of South Aust Posted on 20 April 2010 10:58am
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